I want to double dry hop and was wondering if there was a difference in how long the aroma stays. I was thinking about adding pellets in the primary and whole hops in the secondary or adding one then the other a week apart. Do you think it will make a difference
Leaves vs pellet aroma
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7-10 days is usually fine for dry hopping. I think more flavor & aroma come from raw (whole leaf) hops.
My theory is that there's no way in bleep that you can chop up and reform hops without losing volatiles. You probably lose a little more wort with leaf, but I hate the pellet sludge - no bag can hold it.
I'd do the pellets first - they might be less apt to leave a vegetal-chlorophyll taste. I wouldn't leave (no pun intended - I swear) the leaf much more than a week. I'm sure it's going to be hoppy and good any way you do it.
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If you are using saaz or tettnabger hops you will notice a dramatic difference in the aroma from pellets vs that from leaves as some oils are lost in pellitization. (referenced from fix principles of brewing science from my memory so this is 90% accurate I hope)
I've never really experienced a difference in the aroma when using pellet hops vs leaf hops. I do tend to use more US "C" hops than noble hops, though, as I make many more IPAs and APAs than pilsners.
In my last beer, I had a mix of pellets and whole leaf hops and they went in at the same time.
In my last beer, I had a mix of pellets and whole leaf hops and they went in at the same time.
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I'm using cascade pellets and was gonna run and get centennial since the ipa is all centennial. I think they only have pellets available so this thread might be pointless for now until i brew my next one but if they have whole cones ill do both
i'm doing pretty much the same thing with my IPA that's in primary. i usually use whole hops in secondary for dry hopping as i like their aroma more. but for this batch, i'm going to dry hop for one week with cascade pellets in primary, then rack the beer, bottle two gallons and put the other three in gallon jugs to dry hop for one week with whole cone hops (one variety per gal, simcoe, centennial and amarillo. those are the finishing hops of the brew)
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Will leaving pellets hops in the fermenter hurt anything? I'm currently dry hopping an IPA and i added 1 oz for a week then left them in there and added 1oz more for another week. I'm planning to bottle next monday. any input?
It should be fine. But why not just add all the hops at once? The first will start to fade slightly while the other is coming up. When I dry hop my IPA,I put .5oz of 3 different hops in ay once for a week. Flavors were distinguishable.
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right now I'm just experimenting and trying new things. i decided to have two addition that could provide different flavors and aromas depending how long it in there. I'm still new at brewing (3rd beer batch, first all grain) and see if it makes it better. It already smells great after the first addition
Hmmm...maybe the difference in times will make them more distinguishable?...
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I mixed them both times though. Mix of centennial and amarillo (.5 each) so i didnt put them in by them selfs
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This why i started homebrewing. I can put whatever hops i want in during dry hop at whatever time and it will be one of a kind. These suggestions definitely help since its my first one but knowing that there are no boundaries is exciting. There is nothing like getting smacked in the face with hops. That's why i don't think one ounce of cascade will be enough for me. I had only 3 additions of centennial for this recipe. 60 30 15. It tasted good but now i need that aroma
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Thats way i love this hobby too. Its all up to you if you want to change or alter a recipe and make it to your liking. The one i'm making is DFH 60 min clone which is continually hopped. after the boil i didnt notice too many hop aromas until i dry hopped and is smelling awesome. I changes the recipe (i am using different hopes) because i could get the ones in the recipe and just want it to be called my own. I love hoppy beer lot of people dont but its refreshing after a stout or a dark beer. I'm eyeing that DFH 120 clone but thats a little out of my reach at the moment but one day i'll tackle it lol.
Huh. The biggest difference I've found between the two is that pellets give a bit extra bittering in a dry hop vs whole leaf or "raw" hops. Interesting too is that companies like LD Carlson call them whole leaf hops, & Hop Union calls them raw hops. The tomato/tomoto thing yet again. And through experience I can honestly say to bag the raw hops in primary or secondary,especially where spigots are involved. There are some dried whole hop cones in with the leaves that'll clog a spigot in a new york second.
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I like to put them in a bag so i can just lift them out when i have to bottle. I don't want to deal with the mess if i just thru them into the fermenter.
