Jester King Farmhouse Ale clone

[Gentlemans_Ale]

Many beers by JK seem to have a Farmhouse Ale base. Does anyone have insight into what goes into this recipe?

 

[badlee]

I think they give two or three homebrew recipes for base beers on their site

 

[Gentlemans_Ale]

Yeah, I'm looking for the farmhouse mainly

 

[TheDPR]

The JK website lists the ingredients for each beer as well as gravity targets. If you know the style (farmhouse/saison in this case) you should be able to make a reasonable approximation.

The are known to be homebrew friendly so an email might get a good response! I love me some JK so if you get a good answer please share with us. I'm thinking about using some of their dregs for a saison myself!

 

[fermentology]

They give you everything you need on the website and if you have a bottle you can use the dregs, which really gives their beer's their specific character.

 

[user 141939]

How do you guys drink Jester King? I wish I could do that. But I live in Maine.

 

[TheDPR]

They distribute here in Alabama, surprisingly. They have limited distribution and I've always wondered why we got it, but I'm not complaining.

 

[EthanH]

They distribute here in Alabama, surprisingly. They have limited distribution and I've always wondered why we got it, but I'm not complaining.

I live 20 from JK and I still have a hard time finding it in stores.

To the OP

http://jesterkingbrewery.com/jester-king-homebrew-recipes

 

[user 141939]

I know I could trade for allagash stuff, but it gets pricey shipping those beers back and forth.

 

[Gentlemans_Ale]

I know I could trade for allagash stuff, but it gets pricey shipping those beers back and forth.

Pm'd

 

[gometz]

Many beers by JK seem to have a Farmhouse Ale base. Does anyone have insight into what goes into this recipe?

No sure what you are asking. Are you inferring that Jester King uses a base recipe for all their beers, and that's called a Farmhouse Ale? And that they then blend other beers or flavors into that to make each beer?

Farmhouse basically means saison. When their Black Metal went from being a "Stout" to being a "Farmhouse Stout" it was because they switched their yeast to saison yeast in it (I believe they used a dry English yeast the first time around in it).

 

[BGBC]

The JK website lists the ingredients for each beer as well as gravity targets. If you know the style (farmhouse/saison in this case) you should be able to make a reasonable approximation.

The are known to be homebrew friendly so an email might get a good response! I love me some JK so if you get a good answer please share with us. I'm thinking about using some of their dregs for a saison myself!

They are definitely homebrewer friendly. I've asked for a couple of their recipes not already listed on the site (including RU55) and have received pretty prompt responses with the latest version.

Also agreed that I'm not sure what exactly the OP is asking...do you want the Das Wunderkind recipe?

 

[Gentlemans_Ale]

No sure what you are asking. Are you inferring that Jester King uses a base recipe for all their beers, and that's called a Farmhouse Ale? And that they then blend other beers or flavors into that to make each beer?

Farmhouse basically means saison. When their Black Metal went from being a "Stout" to being a "Farmhouse Stout" it was because they switched their yeast to saison yeast in it (I believe they used a dry English yeast the first time around in it).

I was at the brewery last weekend and had the pleasure of trying Hibemal Dichotomous, Reposé, Equipoise, and Autumnal Dichotomous. These all had a farmhouse ale base with added ingredients like hay, squash, long peppers, cantaloupe, beets, oranges, etc.

I guess I should've been more specific. I'm wondering if anyone knew of any base recipe that they would use for beers like these, ie. pilsener with wheat, or munich, etc.

I liked the common theme in those beers and want to replicate the grainbill and hops.

 

[gometz]

I was at the brewery last weekend and had the pleasure of trying Hibemal Dichotomous, Reposé, Equipoise, and Autumnal Dichotomous. These all had a farmhouse ale base with added ingredients like hay, squash, long peppers, cantaloupe, beets, oranges, etc.

I guess I should've been more specific. I'm wondering if anyone knew of any base recipe that they would use for beers like these, ie. pilsener with wheat, or munich, etc.

I liked the common theme in those beers and want to replicate the grainbill and hops.

There is no "base" beer at Jester King. They are all farmhouse ales but with different recipes.

Going off their website: Repose (God I need to find another bottle that stuff was great) is 100% barley, Hibernal Dichotomous is numerous kinds of barley with and oats (2014 also had wheat, so not even the same name means the same recipe), Autumnal Dichotomous is barley with wheat, Equipose is barley with wheat. They all also use different hops (well the 2 dichotomous both use Perle).

What I think you are trying to find is a beer without the added ingredients that would be similar in flavor to Jester King's offerings. That's a tricky question since each beer is tailored to suit a certain vision.

I would suggest making a 20% wheat beer with the remainder pilsner at about 1.050-1.055. Use EKG or Perle to get to about 10-15 IBU (early hopping only). Either ferment with 3711 (warm) then pitch a blend of Brett and Lacto B or some dregs off of their beers. OR just pitch the dregs off your favorite beer into a starter and use that to ferment your wort. Age for a few months with some oak.

The guys there are really helpful. If you know of a certain recipe, I'd suggest asking them for help (maybe start off with Das Wunderkind, it's lighter than the ones you tried, but very simple). But there is no "base farmhouse ale" that they then blend other ingredients into.

 

[Gentlemans_Ale]

There is no "base" beer at Jester King. They are all farmhouse ales but with different recipes.



Going off their website: Repose (God I need to find another bottle that stuff was great) is 100% barley, Hibernal Dichotomous is numerous kinds of barley with and oats (2014 also had wheat, so not even the same name means the same recipe), Autumnal Dichotomous is barley with wheat, Equipose is barley with wheat. They all also use different hops (well the 2 dichotomous both use Perle).



What I think you are trying to find is a beer without the added ingredients that would be similar in flavor to Jester King's offerings. That's a tricky question since each beer is tailored to suit a certain vision.



I would suggest making a 20% wheat beer with the remainder pilsner at about 1.050-1.055. Use EKG or Perle to get to about 10-15 IBU (early hopping only). Either ferment with 3711 (warm) then pitch a blend of Brett and Lacto B or some dregs off of their beers. OR just pitch the dregs off your favorite beer into a starter and use that to ferment your wort. Age for a few months with some oak.



The guys there are really helpful. If you know of a certain recipe, I'd suggest asking them for help (maybe start off with Das Wunderkind, it's lighter than the ones you tried, but very simple). But there is no "base farmhouse ale" that they then blend other ingredients into.

This helps a lot...and I feel lazy for not looking at those beer description on their website!

 

[rickyjphillips]

They are definitely homebrewer friendly. I've asked for a couple of their recipes not already listed on the site (including RU55) and have received pretty prompt responses with the latest version.



Also agreed that I'm not sure what exactly the OP is asking...do you want the Das Wunderkind recipe?

If you guys already have the Das Wunderkind recipe I would like it... It would save me some time

 

[BGBC]

If you guys already have the Das Wunderkind recipe I would like it... It would save me some time

Here's the Das Uberkind recipe:
Das Uberkind

They take Uberkind and "blend it with fresh, hoppy beer to make Das Wunderkind Blended Saison"

 

[Gentlemans_Ale]

Update: I emailed Garrett. That guy is awesome!

"Typical farmhouse beers for us begin with 75-90% Pilsner, or Pale Malt. The remainder is usually some unmalted wheat, oats, malted wheat, spelt etc. We typically hop fresher beers that don't see any oak aging in a range from 20-40IBUs to keep lactic acid bacteria from becoming to focal."