Is water the most important element of home brewing and what is the best water you ha

[joshesmusica]

I dont know about that. Water from the base of mount fuji, pulled from 2000 ft under the ocean in Hawaii, the arguably purist water in the world from Finland, and water taken from an aquifer 1500ft deep in the andes seems hard to make with some ro water and salts from a brew store.

Then I guess we understand how little you understand about water chemistry now. Which is fine, of course.

But just don't expect people to not come onto your thread about brewing water chemistry and tell you how you can get the same water chemistry of these specific waters you'd like to brew with. And then don't get upset at them for thinking you're trolling when your response is "no way man, there must be something special about that water. it must brew better beer." That special something about each specific bottled water is what types of dissolved solids they have in them. The ones most important to beer flavor are known already, and even more importantly, for the most part, the ones most important to specific styles are already known. All you have to do is look that up. It's generally very easy to understand as well.

If you're not willing to understand this concept, then people are going to assume you're trolling with this thread. If you actually want to learn something, then read people's posts and actually comprehend what they're saying. Otherwise you're just being just as dogmatic in your views as you accuse everyone on this site of being.

 

[user 70770]

You can make drinkable beer with bad water (and by bad I mean still potable lol). But if your process isn't nailed down, you won't make good beer no matter if you are brewing with the ultra fine water of Plzen.

However, water becomes important once you have a solid handle on the process. If you have good sanitation habits, a good recipe, healthy yeast, a proper fermentation and fresh hops, water can take your beer from good to great.

 

[applescrap]

Don't go on a tantrum because you can't stand some jackasses on a homebrew forum giving you trouble or actually asking legitimate questions. HTFU. You have some interesting ideas and some unconventional ideas, which often conflict with "establishment" ideas, so of course you are going to get smoke blown your way. I won't ignore you because most of the time I find you interesting, and sometimes you post pure unfiltered and well aged BS, which is also interesting.

If I could actually go on a real tantrum, it would be better, but when I call it the way I see it, my posts get deleted. I guess everybody else gets to say whatever they want, take their cheap shots, as long as it upholds the dogma regime. I joined to discuss beer making. Its pretty sorry that that is difficult to do without being insulted. I get a little fun, i get some push back, i get some disagreement, the trolling garbage posted by some members goes beyond that imo and I am done with it. Ignore list is my only response.

 

[Bilsch]

Interesting the timing of this news item relative to the bottled water discussion.

https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.c...land-spring-is-committing-colossal-fraud/amp/

 

[Homercidal]

Enough with the snarky comments. If you can't stay on topic, please refrain from posting. There are other areas of the forum for off topic discourse.

 

[Pappers_]

^^^^^ what he said. No one has to reply. Sometimes its best to just ignore things that you think are silly and dumb.

 

[Pappers_]

How could this post have one reply and that reply is to say that process is important? I'm starting to think that this thread says everything anybody would need to know about homebrewers and this forum.

You can't have it both ways. You can't complain that people aren't responding and then also complain when they do respond.

 

[applescrap]

You can't have it both ways. You can't complain that people aren't responding and then also complain when they do respond.

Thats not entirely fair, I am only complaining about off topic posts that serve no point.

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

Ive guess you've seen this post on water?

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/importance-brewing-water.html

 

[joshesmusica]

Enough with the snarky comments. If you can't stay on topic, please refrain from posting. There are other areas of the forum for off topic discourse.

^^^^^ what he said. No one has to reply. Sometimes its best to just ignore things that you think are silly and dumb.

For the record, I wasn't intending my posts to be snarky, but truthful.

OP asked basically if fuji water and expensive waters would be best to use for brewing. The answer was a pretty clear, "no, because that's not how science works. here's how science works. if you want the best water, start with RO, and build up to the best TDS make-up for the style you're brewing. boom, easy, and best of all much cheaper."

Then when someone responds with, "Well, I don't know, have you tried to brew with that $500 bottle of water? Then how do you know it's not the best?" Then I'd say most people are going to assume he's just trolling, and not actually looking for an answer. Obviously on an online forum, a troll-looking post is going to get troll-like comments in return.

 

[Jwin]

Un-subbed

 

[schematix]

Un-subbed

do you know if its possible to un-sub AND not see you ever replied?

so much trolling here recently i'm contemplating giving this site up for good. it's turning to trash.