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Walmart is a bad thing, and everybody knows it. They do nothing but huge outsourcing that drive economy down. I hate to spend money there at all.

Everyone knows it, but thousands shop there. Again Walmart takes the bashing, but no real alternatives or answers are provided.

Bash me because I shop at walmart, group me into the generalization of low income, overweight, wife beating, white trash rednecks, because that's how it is in the South and apparently east coast as well. What the f@ck ever. I'm going to go and get my wife pregnant and then go shoot at some road signs, you all have a good night. :ban:
 
So it's totally wrong for me to go buy something (like a cooler) at the Walmart price? You honestly expect me to believe that the company making these is not making money? Are you saying that there is another Coleman factory that makes the same cooler for more money and sell to smaller retailers. Walmart is buying in such large lots that while they might only be paying $30 for cooler A, the 5700 walmarts are buying a ton of them that would have never have been built if there were not a Walmart. I'm not saying Walmart is perfect, but to say that they are driving everyone else out of business and that they don't provide local jobs is a crock of sh!t. A local Walmart here is planning to convert into a Supercenter. This supercenter will provide 100 more jobs with an average wage of $11.67 an hour. This is bad for the local economy HOW? Just like any other debate, there are two sides to the story, and the anti-Walmart camp doesn't talk about the positive aspects of the store.

Why is Walmart the one major retailer that takes the brunt of all criticism.

No one attacks the the over 1300 Target stores, 1000+ Kmart stores, 538 Costco stores, 2100 Home Depots, 7000 Walgrens, or 1200 Lowes locations with the same level of hatred as Walmart gets. Sure there might be more Walmarts, but how many cities without a Walmart have one of these other stores "supposedly" killing the local mom and pop business. 5700 Walmart stores providing jobs that probably were not there before, yeah real bad.

I'm supposed to feel bad about buying a $15 pair of jeans at Walmart, but be totally OK buying a $50 equally crappy pair of jeans at the mall? I'm white trash because I want to save money, because I have 8 people to feed and cloth. (Oh wait, must be just a breeding redneck anyway just because I have so many kids).

It's not like Walmart is driving specialty shops out of business. If you want to buy a specialty mountain bike, you aren't going to find it at Walmart. If I want a 250 dollar pair of Danner work boots, I don't find those at Walmart. But if I want an inflatable swimming pool, Coleman cooler, or light bulbs, I'm probably going to get those at Walmart.

For those of you that do not shop at Walmart, where do you do your shopping and what makes it better? To be completely honest with you, in most places I have lived in the last few years there aren't Mom and Pop stores selling the same types of products I buy at chain retailers, and these stores were not in existence before Walmart moved in either. If you are shopping for clothes at Eddie Bauer or Macy's, and buying whatever other stuff you buy at small stores, I'm betting you are in a different income bracket than I am anyway. More power to you.

In reality, we've all went so far off topic it doesn't matter. It sucks that some guy was killed by a mob of shoppers, and just coincidence that it happened at Walmart, vice Best Buy or some 80 year old woman getting stomped on at the JC Penny door opening. Plenty of incidents (although not deadly) have happened at high ends stores during this time of year.

Does this post make any fricken sense to anyone but me? I'm tired.

You should shop at Walmart if you want to. Some people won't. You asked why someone wouldn't buy a Coleman cooler at Walmart.

It is not Walmart's fault someone got killed today. This is not another Walmart example. This happened to take place at Walmart.

Coleman is forced to sell the coolers to other stores for more than Walmart sells them for in the store. That is why they are more expensive elsewhere.

You shouldn't feel bad for shopping at Walmart and no one said you should. There are people that don't shop at Walmart for various reasons and they shouldn't feel bad for that either.
 
I guess Walmart bashing is the same as supporting your presidential candidate, no amount of logic or reason is going to sway you from your opinion regarding the store. Even though there is contrary evidence on several websites that discusses the positive aspect that Walmart has had on numerous communities, the evidence that suggest that some of the anti-walmart documentaries aren't entirely factual, it just doesn't matter.

I like this quote from a site I just researched: For the average person, opposing Wal-Mart is an unaffordable luxury. And that is why the anti-Wal-Mart "activists" you run across in the news business invariably come from upper-middle class backgrounds. (Come to think of it, almost every professional activist I've ever met came from privilege. Working people are too busy working.) There's nothing necessarily wrong with this. But the activists should admit the truth: the debate over Wal-Mart is really a debate about aesthetics and social class.. This quote came from here.

Again, we are all going to have our opinions, and not a damn bit of fact on either side is going to change us one bit, or allow us to even agree that we both might have valid points.
 
Keep in mind that the people in front who were trampling that employee were being pushed from the back. The people in back wouldn't have known someone was underfoot in front. The front people were in danger of being trampled themselves if they didn't keep moving with the flow. I'm sure nobody deliberately stomped someone to death so they could save a few dollars.

Remember the The Who concert in the 80's? I'd walk all over you to see The Who? That's what happened there. People got crushed because the crowd surged from behind.
 
Remember when Wal-Mart was trying to only sell "Made in the US" stuff? Mn, that didn't last long - hard to cut prices when the US business tax is so high.

back to the OP - I heard the dude died of a heart attack, and not an actually trampling - but then again, you wouldn't of found me anywhere near Wal-Mart's today....
 
I don't shop at walmart because they treat their employee's like crap (they closed down ALL their deli departments just because at ONE store the butchers unionized), the clientele are always seedier and redneck-ier than other stores, and they tend to drive local business out of business. This is especially true when they sprout a super sized one in a small town and the locals have no other choice to shop there unless they want to drive to the next town over.

Here's another fine example of Wal*Mart strongarming manufacturers into the poor house. Gallon of pickles. I'll buy my Chinese crap elsewhere, even if it is a few bucks more.

And no, Docapi you're not racist unless you say that it's because it was of their color they stampeded. Noting that everyone in the crowd is the same shade isn't racist.
 
Walmart Sucks and I absolutely refuse to shop there if at all possible. I might go into a Walmart once or twice a year and that's only if there's something there that's such a phenomenal deal that I'd be stupid to pass it up. Generally speaking, I find the place detestable and usually hate myself just for walking into one.
 
Here is an update from this morning, Cops hunt Wal-Mart shoppers after worker dies - Life- msnbc.com

Like many of you I do not like to shop at Wal-Mart, mainly becuase I don't like the experience of shopping there. I think I officially gave up on shopping there when in the same trip I saw a kid licking the floor with his mother there and an employee wouldn't sell me ammo becuase she wouldn't accept my military ID.

I doubt anyone will be charged, but it would be nice to get some of these people on tv and listen to their stories.
 
The only thing you should blame Wal Mart for is not having security out there to control the crowd. They should know most people SUCK. Not all people, most people. These people were bitching because they closed the store for two hours after they killed this poor guy. Wal Mart should now spend whatever it takes to go over security tapes and prosecute every one of those bastards. Do away with black Friday, charge everyone full price. So they buy a little less, the profit margin will make up for the volume. What happened to the idea of "Peace on earth and good will towards men". Yeah they crucified the guy that came up with that one. Merry Xmas.
 
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Is that a Sidekick? Walmart isn't just for poor people, or any other classification of group one might assign. As stated, the mark up is really low (producing coolers for $1 profit? Wow). More and more Americans are turning to Walmart due to the economy, which in turn, makes the economy worse. I'm not saying don't shop at Walmart, even I do on occasion do to the prices, but it's the state of the economy! For years I've been saying Target is just an upscale Walmart.

As for the main post, this was an AVOIDABLE tragedy. They even stated that they were unruly BEFORE opening, and did not have enough security BEFORE opening. Also, if he was there through a temp agency, for maintenance, why was he the one opening the store!?

Morals, ethics, etc now a days are no where near what they used to be. I'm only 25, and I know it! Look at are teens- heck, not even teens just kids these days, and how they act because of society- It's SAD!

I always plan ahead to stay home on Black Friday- Traffic, mobs, and other people are bad enough as is- If I were at that store, I would be going down town to the police station and telling them everything I know. I hope his family the best, and even though I hate people who sue for dumb @ss reasons, I think this is justifiable.

Sorry for the rant; I apologize if I offended anyone with my views and encourage you to have your own (that's the point of America, right?). Cheers and happy brewing!
 
Also, if he was there through a temp agency, for maintenance, why was he the one opening the store!?

You've never been a temp have you? :cross: They always get shafted.

Is that a Sidekick? Walmart isn't just for poor people, or any other classification of group one might assign. As stated, the mark up is really low (producing coolers for $1 profit? Wow). More and more Americans are turning to Walmart due to the economy, which in turn, makes the economy worse.

Having expensive accessories doesn't mean you have money, in fact it's often an indicator that you don't... due to the fact that you buy so much crap. I wouldn't mind shopping at wal-mart if it were a better store, but I refuse to give my business to such a terrible outfit. I'm not talking about their issues as a corporation (discrimination, pay, benefits, etc) simply their in-store management... it's always dirty, the lines are long, the service is bad.
 
For years I've been saying Target is just an upscale Walmart.



The difference is, Target, et al. gives their part-time employees a livable wage, AND benies !


At one local Wal-mart a few years back, they had problems THREE YEARS RUNNING on "Black Friday", including stampedes, fights over parking spots, and a shooting over one guy bumping another guys' g/f with his cart in the parking lot. Wal-mart management actually had the stones to try to put some of the blame on the local cops, claiming that they should have had more protection out there.
 
The root of the problem here is that people will do anything to aquire more and more crap. There is no reason why someone should die for the chance to get $100 off of a big screen tv. I saw someone on tv last night say "my kids have needs and they don't understand that mommy and daddy are having hard times because of the economy." Hows about you teach your kids to f'n read and stop making them expect cheap f'n crap from china that they use once and then ends up in a landfill. You know why I hate Walmart/target/k-mart? Because it breeds this wastefull greedy mentality in this country that has completely destroyed our economy and or morals. McBrew you can shop at Walmart all you want I'm not looking down on you for it but know that I never will, I just recently started shopping at a Cooperative grocery store and while it hurts to pay a lot more for food I feel better because I'm buying local and supporting farmers more directly.
 
There is no reason why someone should die for the chance to get $100 off of a big screen tv.

That has to be the worst part of this. If it were a bomb scare and people were running for their lives, that's a different thing. But we're not even talking about a lot of money here.

I saw someone on tv last night say "my kids have needs and they don't understand that mommy and daddy are having hard times because of the economy."

Make them understand. Someone needs to teach them about family economics so they can deal with budgets when they grow up. I just can't believe these people who want to shelter their children from the everyday realities of life. As a parent, you're supposed to be teaching them about the everyday realities of life. A parent's job is to produce responsible adults.
 
Make them understand. Someone needs to teach them about family economics so they can deal with budgets when they grow up. I just can't believe these people who want to shelter their children from the everyday realities of life. As a parent, you're supposed to be teaching them about the everyday realities of life. A parent's job is to produce responsible adults.

Exactly, all that you will do to a child if you shelter them like this is to continue the idea of living paycheck to paycheck and having a large credit debt is a normal function of society. This would be a good time to teach fiscal responsibility.
 
News from The Associated Press

Looks like the cops are going to try to go after some of the peeps responsible. Good luck finding any specific people responsible. I am sure the people at the back were pushing hard to get in and had no idea what was happening up front and the people in front while they may have seen the trouble could probably do very little to stop the flow so it is hard to really lay blame anywhere.

Talk about deals to die for though...
 
Walmart is a bad thing, and everybody knows it. They do nothing but huge outsourcing that drive economy down. I hate to spend money there at all.

Huh? How does walmart "outsource"? In fact, I think it's quite the opposite. I would venture to say that the bulk of the jobs at Walmart are entirely local.

Now, Walmart does have a very bad track record of keeping employees at the very edge of full-time employment without going over so they don't have to offer benefits. They do also have a pretty nasty track record of driving smaller local business out of business, but I see this really as a function of the free market then necessarily a fault of Walmart.
 
I remember when Walmart used to promote "Made in USA" items, but after Sam died, the people in charge shut that down, and now only imports cheap crap from China, or tries to force manufacturers to sell them items at discounted prices or else they will get a similar items from overseas.

I also hate the way that I sometimes can't get the name brand foods that i want to buy because they only stock the sam's choice version. Thank you, Wally World.

I am one of the few out there who would actually look for a Made in USA tag and consider that when making a purchase. It actually cheeses me off that I don't even have the option in most cases nowadays.
 
There are more of you than you might think. It's just increasingly difficult to do it.

I know in the UK the whole "Made in the UK" sticker thing became an excuse to sell sub standard crap to patriots!
 
Huh? How does walmart "outsource"? In fact, I think it's quite the opposite. I would venture to say that the bulk of the jobs at Walmart are entirely local.

Now, Walmart does have a very bad track record of keeping employees at the very edge of full-time employment without going over so they don't have to offer benefits. They do also have a pretty nasty track record of driving smaller local business out of business, but I see this really as a function of the free market then necessarily a fault of Walmart.

What I meant to say was that they buy too much foreign crap/product driving economy down.
 
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