Specialty IPA: Red IPA India Red Ale

[jturman35]

Hydro sample is great! My version came in a little hot at 1.080. I’m going to dry hop my 2.5 gal batch with ounce each Simcoe, Amarillio, Cascade. Very good Red IPA!

 

[doublehaul]

It’s 6.5% ~1.065 as designed but if you want to “ imperialize” it increase the base malt to around 1.076+

I accidentally imperialized it once to like 9% ABV!!- the scale was off at the brew store. I've brewed this like 8 times but that imperial one was my favorite. I think the scale was off when I measured the Munich out - what do you think about shooting for 1.070 with 50% 2 ROW 50% 10L munich light?

 

[TimBrewz]

I’d do more 2 row, rather than Munich for my tastes. 50/50 will be a real malt bomb, but if you are into that go for it.

 

[doublehaul]

I’d do more 2 row, rather than Munich for my tastes. 50/50 will be a real malt bomb, but if you are into that go for it.

I'll probably stick with the original recipe, I'm doing a 10 gallon batch so I don't want to get too crazy. This is a great beer, I haven't brewed it in a while!

 

[jturman35]

I just opened my first bottle at 12 days. Yes, I’m inpatient! I gulped the hydro sample down which I normally can’t stomach.

I am getting a little DMS butterscotch flavor that I hope will fade with more time in the bottle. Overall I think a really good recipe. My version came in at 8%


Update: 6/7/18

DMS gone! Beer is awesome, Great Recipe.

 

[doublehaul]

I've now brewed this beer 7 times. I tried Wyeast 1272 American Ale II yeast last batch. It's not fully carbed yet but I just gave it a try and I'm not sure about it yet. So far I like 1056 - American Ale 1 better.

 

[TimBrewz]

I've now brewed this beer 7 times. I tried Wyeast 1272 American Ale II yeast last batch. It's not fully carbed yet but I just gave it a try and I'm not sure about it yet. So far I like 1056 - American Ale 1 better.

My experience with 1272 is that it’s pretty slow to finish and clean up. Give it some time. It’s in my opinion almost a hybrid of an American strain/English strain. That said 1056 always does a great job with this beer.

 

[Hopsimus]

Just wanted to give a shout out to the OP of the thread. I brewed this up a few weeks back (I bottle condition), and just had my first finished bottle. Came out freaking fantastic! Definitely in the top 5 brews for me (though granted, I've only done 35 brews or so).

I went for 50% Mosaic, 25% Centennial and 25% Simcoe and also used Crystal 75 instead of 90 (my LHBS was out of stock on the 90). Other than that, I stayed true to the original recipe.

Edit: Forgot, I also subbed Midnight wheat for the black malt. I tend to find the Midnight smoother (which I believe the OP mentioned in another post above).

Definitely a winner!

Cheers!

 

[TimBrewz]

Just wanted to give a shout out to the OP of the thread. I brewed this up a few weeks back (I bottle condition), and just had my first finished bottle. Came out freaking fantastic! Definitely in the top 5 brews for me (though granted, I've only done 35 brews or so).

I went for 50% Mosaic, 25% Centennial and 25% Simcoe and also used Crystal 75 instead of 90 (my LHBS was out of stock on the 90). Other than that, I stayed true to the original recipe.

Edit: Forgot, I also subbed Midnight wheat for the black malt. I tend to find the Midnight smoother (which I believe the OP mentioned in another post above).

Definitely a winner!

Cheers!

So happy to hear it’s a winner for you! Your hop bill sounds great, and yes I use Midnight wheat now for this beer. Cheers!

 

[jturman35]

Brewing this beer for the second time! First batch was only a small 2.5 gal batch but it was amazing! I did the Imperial version of this recipe.

 

[Tarpon87]

Ive had this thread book marked for a while and I think I'm going to do it in the next few weeks. I might do an 11 gal batch and ferment half with an ale yeast and half with a lager yeast. @TimBrewz since you have done both, are the IRA/IRL beers different enough to make a worth while side by side? Havent plugged a recipe into BS yet but thinking along these lines.

Grain Bill:
16lb 2 row
10lb Munich 10l
1lb cara 40
.5lb cara 120
2 oz midnight wheat

Hops:
2.5oz Simcoe (FWH)
2oz Amarillo (10 min)
2oz Simcoe (10 min)
2.5oz Amarillo (whirlpool)
2oz Simcoe (whirlpool)
2oz Cascade (whirlpool)
4oz Amarillo (dry hop)
2oz Cascade (dry hop)
1oz Simcoe (dry hop)

1/2 fermented with ether 05 or BRY-97
1/2 fermented with 34/70

Also, has anyone subbed some of the base malt for Red X?

 

[TimBrewz]

Hi Tarpon, that recipe looks good. I found the Lager yeast more malt forward and to ( obviously I guess) have that unmistakable lager flavor. So yes they are different enough to do the split and have two noticeably different beers. The Red X is great. I’m a partner in a brewery in N California ( Cedar Crest Brewery and Winery) and we do an Irish Red Ale that is 50/50 pils and Red X. I’ve been thinking of doing an IRA with that grain bill in the future.

Happy brewing!
Tim

 

[Tarpon87]

I'm a big fan of Stone's Pataskala Red, that's what made me think of using Red X. I may try it, but I will use your grain bill first because it has gotten so many great reviews in this thread. Id love to get a hoppy red into my rotation.

 

[jturman35]

Brewing this beer for the second time! First batch was only a small 2.5 gal batch but it was amazing! I did the Imperial version of this recipe.

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FG only came down to 1.025 which really stinks! Not sure what happened. I made a starter using Imperial yeast.

 

[norrismj]

I brewed this two months ago
it is excellent and similar to what you are discussing. Not as much Munich, but more Pale ale malt. Also used 1272 yeast for a fruiter beer. Very tasty.

HOME BREW RECIPE:
Title: Milo's Pale Ale

Brew Method: All Grain
Style Name: American Pale Ale
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 11.8 gallons (fermentor volume)
Boil Size: 13.5 gallons
Boil Gravity: 1.052
Efficiency: 72% (brew house)


STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.060
Final Gravity: 1.014
ABV (standard): 5.93%
IBU (tinseth): 47.98
SRM (morey): 6.3

FERMENTABLES:
13 lb - American - Pale 2-Row (48.5%)
9 lb - American - Pale Ale (33.6%)
4 lb - American - Munich - Light 10L (14.9%)
13 oz - German - CaraFoam (3%)

HOPS:
0.5 oz - Galena, Type: Pellet, AA: 13, Use: Boil for 40 min, IBU: 9.02
1 oz - Cascade, Type: Pellet, AA: 7, Use: Aroma for 10 min, IBU: 4.01
1 oz - Citra, Type: Pellet, AA: 11, Use: Aroma for 10 min, IBU: 6.31
1 oz - Galaxy, Type: Pellet, AA: 14.25, Use: Aroma for 10 min, IBU: 8.17
1 oz - Cascade, Type: Pellet, AA: 7, Use: Whirlpool for 10 min at 180 °F, IBU: 4.44
1 oz - Citra, Type: Pellet, AA: 11, Use: Whirlpool for 10 min at 180 °F, IBU: 6.98
1 oz - Galaxy, Type: Pellet, AA: 14.25, Use: Whirlpool for 10 min at 180 °F, IBU: 9.05

MASH GUIDELINES:
1) Infusion, Temp: 151 F, Time: 60 min, Amount: 7.4 gal
2) Temperature, Temp: 168 F, Time: 25 min, Amount: 0 gal, hold at temperature for 10 minutes
3) Infusion, Temp: 160 F, Time: 20 min, Amount: 9.5 gal
Starting Mash Thickness: 1.15 qt/lb

OTHER INGREDIENTS:
1 each - whirl floc, Time: 10 min, Type: Fining, Use: Boil
10 each - femtab, Time: 60 min, Type: Other, Use: Boil
1.25 tsp - yeast nutrient, Time: 10 min, Type: Other, Use: Boil

YEAST:
Wyeast - American Ale II 1272
Starter: Yes
Form: Liquid
Attenuation (avg): 74%
Flocculation: High
Optimum Temp: 60 - 72 F
Fermentation Temp: 66 F
Pitch Rate: 0.75 (M cells / ml / deg P)

PRIMING:
Method: CO2
Amount: 11.7 psi
CO2 Level: 2.5 Volumes

TARGET WATER PROFILE:
Profile Name: Light colored and hoppy
Ca2: 75
Mg2: 5
Na: 10
Cl: 50
SO4: 150
HCO3: 0
Water Notes:
Mash water 7.4 gal; Sparge water 9.8 gal
Gyp: 7.5 g; 1.9 tsp / 7 g; 1.8 tsp
Epsom: 3 g; 0.7 tsp / 1 g; 0.2 tsp
Salt: 0 g; 0.0 tso / 1 g; 0.2 tsp
CaCl: 3 g; 0.7 tsp / 3 g; 0.7 tsp
Add 57.47 ml / 11.5 tsp Phosphoric acid. = pH 5.4
NOTES:
Yeast sStarter:
1 L; 4.5 oz DME
.75 L 6.3 DME
yields 0.78M Cells / ml / deg P

This recipe has been published online at:
https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/654929/milo-s-pale-ale

Generated by Brewer's Friend - https://www.brewersfriend.com/
Date: 2018-08-20 22:34 UTC
Recipe Last Updated: 2018-06-06 13:08 UTC

 

[norrismj]

More comments on Milo's Pale Ale. Not as hoppy as I intended. but a nice malty backbone. I'd say a very complex Malt backbone. Hops is suttle and not overly bitter. love drinking this beer as it is very tasty.

 

[Kyle]

Brewed the recipe on page 19 and it came out great!! Used midnight wheat instead of black patent and after 3 weeks fermenting and only 3 days in the keg it has come out really good!

It reminds me of Sierra Nevada Celebration. One of my favorite beers. I had just bought a 12 pack a few days earlier and when I went to try this one I was like, Damn this tastes familiar. Poured a glass of celebration to compare and actually preferred this one.

If you like Celebration you'll love this beer. Thanks!

 

[Miraculix]

About 1 year ago, I brewed a raw version of this red ale and it got infected with wild brett. I decided to age it and see what I will get. Yesterday I tried one of those. Nice Brett funk together with something which can be only described as tobacco or cigar like. A little bit of licorice as well. But the astringent bitterness I get is reallty off putting. It is somehow related to the fact that this ale is raw, I had it in other raw ales before.

Long storry short, I caught myself some nice brett strains in there, which I will collect, but the beer is a dumper.

 

[InspectorJon]

Brewed the recipe on page 19 and it came out great!!

@Kyle
I want to brew this next. Apparently different browsers page differently. Your post is on page 11 for me so I'm not sure about a recipe on page 19. Do you know which post number the recipe you used was? I'm planning to go with post #366 but using Midnight wheat in place of black patent.

 

[Tarpon87]

Well been saying I was gonna do this for a while and Im finally getting to it this weekend, just a 5gal ale this time, not doing the double batch ale/lager split, maybe another day. Bumped the grain bill up a bit because Im feeling like getting something a bit stronger on tap but still using Tims malt bill, OG should be around 1.079. Ill be fermenting with Mangrove Jacks west coast ale yeast, M44, which is new to me but sounds like a clean fermenting ale strain similar to a chico strain. Subbing some hops as well because I have stuff on hand I need to use but not everything that is in the original recipe. Ill be using CTZ, Amarillo, Citra, Centennial, Mosaic....making some room for the 2018 crops coming out. Wont be the same beer as Tim's original, but inspired by it.

Recipe looks like this
10lb 2 row
5lb munich 10l
8oz c60
8oz c90
1oz midnight wheat
8oz table sugar

.5oz CTZ @60
.25oz Amarillo @30
.25oz Amarillo @15
1oz Amarillo @10
1oz Citra @10

1oz Amarillo whirlpool @160f 20min
1oz Citra whirlpool @160f 20min
1oz Centennial whirlpool @160f 20min

2oz Amarillo dry hop 5 days
2oz Citra dry hop 5 days
1.5oz Centennial dry hop 5 days

1oz Amarillo dry hop 3 days
1oz Mosaic dry hop 3 days

Beersmith calculates
81.4 IBU
16.1 SRM
8.2 ABV

Ill keep this thread updated with how this comes out.

 

[Tarpon87]

Brew day has come and gone. Efficieny sucked and only managed 1.070 og......and as im typing this I remembered the 8oz of sugar i was supposed to add to the boil....oops lol! Ok that makes up for some of, still would be short i think but not the 9 points I am now. Think I'll boil the sugar in some water, cool and add it to fermenter. Id like to get something close to 8% on tap. Other than that brew day went well.

 

[brewpoint0]

Anyone add honey to this recipe?

Yes, several times. In fact, I'm brewing it again this weekend with honey. Added 1 cup of wildflower honey with 15 mins to go in the boil. Not really sure what it added, but I liked the batch I made with honey better than w/o. Of course, there are like 999 other things I could have done differently from batch to batch that changed the flavor, so....grain of salt?

 

[Kyle]

@Kyle
I want to brew this next. Apparently different browsers page differently. Your post is on page 11 for me so I'm not sure about a recipe on page 19. Do you know which post number the recipe you used was? I'm planning to go with post #366 but using Midnight wheat in place of black patent.

Yup it was from post 366. Realized that the page number would probably vary after I posted but forgot to edit

 

[Tarpon87]

Little update, I did add the 8oz sugar to the fermenter, bringing my OG up to 1.073. Pitched 2 packs of MJ 044 West Coast Ale yeast. After 2 weeks I took an FG reading, it was only 1.020. Kind of disappointed, definitely wanted it drier and more in the west coast style, may still end up being a good beer though, we will see. Dry hopping now and will keg in 4-5 days. Fermented at 67f for the 2 weeks.

 

[InspectorJon]

I brewed this January 26. Bottled it February 12. I used Chocolate Wheat (400L) as that was the only black wheat at the LHBS. The beer is tasting very good right now, end of March. It has good foam with nice lacing. I pretty much followed the hop schedule with the exception of using a little Chinook for bittering as I did not have quite enough Simcoe. As has been said before this reminds me of Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale.

 

[JLeuck64]

Making this one today for the first time!

It was number 73 on The HomeBrewTalk Top 100 Recipes

 

[JLeuck64]

Making this one today for the first time!

It was number 73 on The HomeBrewTalk Top 100 Recipes

Update:
I adjusted this recipe to hit 7gal net. I also had to sub Briess 80L because my LHBS didn't have the 90L that this recipe calls for. Sort of hit my numbers on brew day and after fermentation!

Here is a what the wort looked like after draining the mash into the brew kettle. To my eye it does have a bit of a red color to it, under the right kind of light.

O.G. came in a little high at 1.065, which is fine by me (my brewhouse efficiency runs in the high 70% range). I hit my 7gal net volume.

I used Imperial Flagship to ferment (which is the sub for Wyeast 1056 American Ale) and it was down to 1.011 after 10 days. I was checking the S.G. every 7 - 10 days and the samples I was looking at led me to believe this was starting to look more like an Amber than a Red, but I didn't care cuz the flavor and aroma were really good!
By the time I finally got around to kegging it (after 5 weeks in the primary) it was down to 1.008 F.G. a whopping 7.5% ABV!!! Holy $crap that's a strong one indeed!

I kegged this up yesterday... but had to sneak a sample of it today. Under the right kind of light it does look a little Red to my eye.

As I was sipping on this first glass outside it suddenly occurred to me that I was seeing red again! As I look down into the glass I can see red reflecting off the curvature of the glass and through the beer to the bottom of the glass as well.

This beer is really trippy dude!

 

[InspectorJon]

Brewed this January 26. Finishing the last bottle tonight. Still very good. The malt character has made it stand up well over time, unlike some IPAs. Thanks @TimBrewz for a great recipe. I'll make this again soon.

 

[JLeuck64]

Update:
Part of this 7gal batch, that I made back in April, I split off and put in one of those old Party Pigs. I still have some and continue to use them (at some point i will replace them with 2.5gal Corny kegs...) Now the 5gal Corny keg has been dead for a while now, but I let the Party Pig naturally carbonate and condition for over a month before tapping it. How does the color look? Tastes fantastic for a 7.5% ABV ( ;

 

[TimBrewz]

Hey all!

This beer is officially on tap for the holiday season at Cedar Crest Brewing in Redding and Red Bluff California brew pubs! Ask for Enchanter IRA or try any of our other delicious beers!

Cheers!
Tim