InBev Strikes Again

[WaltStarr]

Again. You just said that deregulation led to the expansion of breweries. Legalizing homebrewing lowered barriers of getting into the business by allowing people to self educate on how to brew and it also allowed for experimentation. In addition to that states changed laws to allow brewpubs, on prem sales, self distribution, raised alcohol limits, lowered license fees etc....

Not true at all. To lower the barriers for entry into brewing, NEW REGULATIONS WERE INTRODUCED. To insure these extremely small breweries could still compete, EVEN MORE REGULATIONS WERE PUT IN PLACE ON LARGE BREWERIES.

A highly regulated environment was the only way for the craft brew industry to exist, else these small companies could have never competed!

On Edit: You also know you just admitted that new regulations were introduced to allow brewpubs, on premise sales, self distribution, raised alcohol limits, lowered license fees (for the smaller organizations). Not one bit of that was accomplished by repealing a single regulatory law, it was all accomplished via the introduction of many new regulatory laws.

The feds and states then introduced new regulations on the larger breweries.

 

[jensek]

Not true at all. To lower the barriers for entry into brewing, NEW REGULATIONS WERE INTRODUCED. To insure these extremely small breweries could still compete, EVEN MORE REGULATIONS WERE PUT IN PLACE ON LARGE BREWERIES.

A highly regulated environment was the only way for the craft brew industry to exist, else these small companies could have never competed!

Yet strangely the states with most liberal free market oriented "brewing" laws have the most breweries.

 

[WaltStarr]

Yet strangely the states with most liberal free market oriented "brewing" laws have the most breweries.

See my edits. That was accomplished by passing many new regulatory laws. Brewing is far more regulated today in every state in the nation than it was in 1978 when Carter signed the law making home brewing legal.

 

[jensek]

See my edits. That was accomplished by passing many new regulatory laws. Brewing is far more regulated today in every state in the nation than it was in 1978 when Carter signed the law making home brewing legal.

I'd love to read up on the new regs. Please provide a list.

 

[slym2none]

*munches popcorn*

 

[jensek]

*munches popcorn*

Tell me about it....

 

[dallasdb]

 

[WaltStarr]

I'd love to read up on the new regs. Please provide a list.

Sorry for not getting back to this quickly. This is a list of ONLY Federal regulations regarding specifically the production of beer. Keep in mind, there are many other Federal regulations regarding the production of alcohol that also pertain to the production of beer but are not specific to the production of beer. While not exhaustive of the regulations pertaining specifically to beer in any location as there are no state or local level regulations in this list, most are in place in their current form due to laws passed since 1978:

Title 27 → Chapter I → Subchapter A → Part 25

TITLE 27—Alcohol, Tobacco Products and Firearms

CHAPTER I—ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO TAX AND TRADE BUREAU, DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY

SUBCHAPTER A—ALCOHOL

PART 25—BEER

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Subpart A—SCOPE OF REGULATIONS

§25.1
Production and removal of beer.
§25.2
Territorial extent.
§25.3
Forms prescribed.
§25.4
Related regulations.
§25.5
OMB control numbers assigned under the Paperwork Reduction Act.
§25.6
Delegations of the Administrator.
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Subpart B—DEFINITIONS

§25.11
Meaning of terms.
Standards for Beer
§25.15
Materials for the production of beer.
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Subpart C—LOCATION AND USE OF BREWERY

§25.21
Restrictions on location.
§25.22
Continuity of brewery.
§25.23
Restrictions on use.
§25.24
Storage of beer.
§25.25
Operation of a tavern on brewery premises.
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Subpart D—CONSTRUCTION AND EQUIPMENT

Construction
§25.31
Brewery buildings.
Equipment
§25.35
Tanks.
§25.36
Empty container storage.
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Subpart E—MEASUREMENT OF BEER

§25.41
Measuring system required.
§25.42
Testing of measuring devices.
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Subpart F—MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS

§25.51
Right of Entry and Examination.
§25.52
Variations from requirements.
Samples
§25.53
Submissions of samples of fermented products.
Formulas
§25.55
Formulas for fermented products.
§25.56
Filing of formulas.
§25.57
Formula information.
§25.58
New and superseding formulas.
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Subpart G—QUALIFICATION OF A BREWERY

Original Qualification
§25.61
General requirements for notice.
§25.62
Data for notice.
§25.63
Notice of registration.
§25.64
Maintenance of notice file.
§25.65
Power of attorney.
§25.66
Organizational documents.
§25.67
[Reserved]
§25.68
Description of brewery.
Changes After Original Qualification
§25.71
Amended or superseding notices.
§25.72
Change in proprietorship.
§25.73
Change in partnership.
§25.74
Change in stockholders.
§25.75
Change in officers and directors.
§25.76
[Reserved]
§25.77
Change in location.
§25.78
Change in premises.
Alternation of Operations
§25.81
Alternation of brewery and bonded or taxpaid wine premises.
Discontinuance of Business
§25.85
Notice of permanent discontinuance.
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Subpart H—BONDS AND CONSENTS OF SURETY

§25.91
Requirement for bond.
§25.92
Consent of surety.
§25.93
Penal sum of bond.
§25.94
Strengthening bonds.
§25.95
New bond.
§25.96
Superseding bond.
§25.97
Continuation certificate.
§25.98
Surety or security.
§25.99
Filing powers of attorney.
Disapproval or Termination of Bonds or Consents of Surety
§25.101
Disapproval of bonds or consents of surety.
§25.102
Termination of surety's liability.
§25.103
Notice by surety for relief from liability under bond.
§25.104
Termination of bonds.
§25.105
Release of collateral security.
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Subpart I—DEALER REGISTRATION AND RECORDKEEPING

§25.111
Definitions.
§25.112
Dealer registration.
§25.113
Amending the dealer registration.
§25.114
Dealer records.
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Subpart J—MARKS, BRANDS, AND LABELS

§25.141
Barrels and kegs.
§25.142
Bottles.
§25.143
Cases.
§25.144
Rebranding barrels and kegs.
§25.145
Tanks, vehicles, and vessels.
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Subpart K—TAX ON BEER

Liability for Tax
§25.151
Rate of tax.
§25.152
Reduced rate of tax for certain brewers.
§25.153
Persons liable for tax.
Determination of Tax
§25.155
Types of containers.
§25.156
Determination of tax on keg beer.
§25.157
Determination of tax on bottled beer.
§25.158
Tax computation for bottled beer.
§25.159
Time of tax determination and payment; offsets.
§25.160
Tax adjustment for brewers who produce more than 2,000,000 barrels of beer.
Preparation and Remittance of Tax Returns
§25.163
Method of tax payment.
§25.164
Quarterly and semimonthly returns.
§25.164a
Special September rule for taxes due by semimonthly return.
§25.165
Payment of tax by electronic fund transfer.
§25.166
Payment of reduced rate of tax.
§25.167
Notice of brewer to pay reduced rate of tax.
§25.168
Employer identification number.
§25.169
Application for employer identification number.
Prepayment of Tax
§25.173
Brewer in default.
§25.174
Bond not sufficient.
§25.175
Prepayment of tax.
Failure To Pay Tax
§25.177
Evasion of or failure to pay tax; failure to file a tax return.
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Subpart L—REMOVALS WITHOUT PAYMENT OF TAX

Transfer to Another Brewery of Same Ownership
§25.181
Eligibility.
§25.182
Kinds of containers.
§25.183
Determination of quantity transferred.
§25.184
Losses in transit.
§25.185
Mingling.
§25.186
Record of beer transferred.
Removal of Beer Unfit for Beverage Use
§25.191
General.
§25.192
Removal of sour or damaged beer.
Removals for Analysis, Research, Development or Testing
§25.195
Removals for analysis.
§25.196
Removals for research, development or testing.
Removal of Beer to a Contiguous Distilled Spirits Plant
§25.201
Removal by pipeline.
Exportation
§25.203
Exportation without payment of tax.
Beer For Personal or Family Use
§25.205
Production.
§25.206
Removal of beer.
§25.207
Removal from brewery for personal or family use.
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Subpart M—BEER RETURNED TO BREWERY

§25.211
Beer returned to brewery.
§25.212
Beer returned to brewery from which removed.
§25.213
Beer returned to brewery other than that from which removed.
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Subpart N—VOLUNTARY DESTRUCTION

§25.221
Voluntary destruction of beer.
§25.222
Notice of brewer.
§25.223
Destruction of beer off brewery premises.
§25.224
Refund or adjustment of tax.
§25.225
Destruction of taxpaid beer which was never removed from brewery premises.
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Subpart O—BEER PURCHASED FROM ANOTHER BREWER

§25.231
Finished beer.
§25.232
Basic permit.
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Subpart P—CEREAL BEVERAGE

§25.241
Production.
§25.242
Markings.
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Subpart Q—REMOVAL OF BREWER'S YEAST AND OTHER ARTICLES

§25.251
Authorized removals.
§25.252
Records.
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Subpart R—BEER CONCENTRATE

§25.261
General.
§25.262
Restrictions and conditions on processes of concentration and reconstitution.
§25.263
Production of concentrate and reconstitution of beer.
§25.264
Transfer between breweries.
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Subpart S—PILOT BREWING PLANTS

§25.271
General.
§25.272
Application.
§25.273
Action on application.
§25.274
Bond.
§25.276
Operations and records.
§25.277
Discontinuance of operations.
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Subpart T—REFUND OR ADJUSTMENT OF TAX OR RELIEF FROM LIABILITY

§25.281
General.
§25.282
Beer lost by fire, theft, casualty, or act of God.
§25.283
Claims for refund of tax.
§25.284
Adjustment of tax.
§25.285
Refund of beer tax excessively paid.
§25.286
Claims for remission of tax on beer lost in transit between breweries.
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Subpart U—RECORDS AND REPORTS

§25.291
Records.
§25.292
Daily records of operations.
§25.293
Record of ballings and alcohol content.
§25.294
Inventories.
§25.295
Record of unsalable beer.
§25.296
Record of beer concentrate.
§25.297
Report of Operations, Form 5130.9 or Form 5130.26.
§25.298
Excise tax return, Form 5000.24.
§25.299
Execution under penalties of perjury.
§25.300
Retention and preservation of records.
§25.301
Photographic copies of records.

If you wish to read further on these regulations, please visit this site with links to the specific wording of each regulation:

http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-id...a&tpl=/ecfrbrowse/Title27/27cfr25_main_02.tpl

 

[jensek]

Thanks. I was looking for the new regulations that were introduced.

On Edit: You also know you just admitted that new regulations were introduced to allow brewpubs, on premise sales, self distribution, raised alcohol limits, lowered license fees (for the smaller organizations). Not one bit of that was accomplished by repealing a single regulatory law, it was all accomplished via the introduction of many new regulatory laws.

Somehow missed the above. Passing/revising/repealing a law that promotes free competition and free market forces is deregulation. We are talking past each other. I shouldn't drink and read.