I'm looking to make a Rye IPA

[niquejim]

If your cooler is going to get cramped....you definitley want to think about tossing in a 1/2 pound of rice hulls to keep the grain bed fluffed up and prevent a stuck sparge.

I've only had one stuck sparge and that was when I took the "crush til you're scared" too far and had more flour than grain. And that was on a porter.
All my rye's and wheat's have been fine

 

[8string]

Tentative recipe adjusted for 5 gallon mash tun.

"R U Red Eye" for Rye PA

9.5 lbs 2 row
1.5 lbs rye malt
1 lb crystal 60
.5 lb carapils
.5 lb wheat malt

13 lbs total.

Shouldn't have a problem with that, do you think?

Also, should I adjust the crush for rye or wheat. Ive never used rye, but had no problems with 3.5 lbs of wheat in the past.

 

[BierMuncher]

Tentative recipe adjusted for 5 gallon mash tun.

"R U Red Eye" for Rye PA

9.5 lbs 2 row
1.5 lbs rye malt
1 lb crystal 60
.5 lb carapils
.5 lb wheat malt

13 lbs total.

Shouldn't have a problem with that, do you think?

Also, should I adjust the crush for rye or wheat. Ive never used rye, but had no problems with 3.5 lbs of wheat in the past.

That's under 15% so you should be fine. Rye likes to be crushed up pretty good. I usually set the crush a bit finer, but I also do so with my wheat malt. If you're happy with your wheat malt crush, I wouldn't mess with it.

Just an FYI, I started using rice hulls in all my brews about 9 batches ago. Helped my efficiency by about 2-3 points so I've stuck with them. They're standard in my process now.

 

[justbrewit]

1oz chinook @60
1oz Chinook @45
1oz Perle @45
1oz Perle @ 30
1Oz warrior @15

thats what i'd do. those high alpha hops are great for a good hop nose.

 

[CBBaron]

Here's what I did yesterday.

BeerSmith Recipe Printout - www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Amber Rye PA (4/5/08)
Brewer: CBBaron
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 5.25 gal
Boil Size: 6.25 gal
Estimated OG: 1.068 SG
Estimated Color: 12.2 SRM
Estimated IBU: 85.0 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
8 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 68.00 %
2 lbs Rye, Flaked (2.0 SRM) Grain 16.00 %
1 lbs Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 8.00 %
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 4.00 %
8.0 oz Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 4.00 %
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 52.9 IBU
0.50 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (30 min) (Hops 16.0 IBU
0.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (12 min) Hops 7.0 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [6.00 %] (12 min) Hops 2.9 IBU
0.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (2 min) Hops 4.4 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [6.00 %] (2 min) Hops 1.8 IBU
1 Pkgs SafAle US Ale (DCL Yeast #US-05) Yeast-Ale


I didn't get a stuck sparge but it was real slow. I think I'll try using some rice hulls in future batches, especially if it includes flaked grains.
My volume was low by 1/2 gal and my efficiency was off by 5% which I suspect was because more wort was left in the grains than normal. Still my target gravity was nearly spot on.

Just my take on a RyePA.

Craig

 

[8string]

"R U Red Eye" for Rye PA

9.75 lbs 2 row
1.5 lbs rye malt
1 lb crystal 60
.5 lb carapils
.5 lb wheat malt

Ive got a super slow sparge right now with the above grain bill. Will definitely use rice hulls next time. I just hope it doesn't get stuck.

 

[BierMuncher]

...Ive got a super slow sparge right now with the above grain bill. Will definitely use rice hulls next time. I just hope it doesn't get stuck.

I'm tellingyou. Since I started tossing in a 1/2 pound of rice hulls in all my batches...I'm a happy brewer.

 

[Chello]

When would you use flaked rye instead of rye malt? does it produce the same effects?

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

Yep... it does.

The following rest helps:

Beta Glucanase / gum breaking rest. 95-113°F

EDIT: Fixed botched post. Also, rye malt is harder to get your hands on and like wheat I think more flavor is imparted my unmlated rye.

 

[EdWort]

OK, Here's what I'm going to do.

I'm going to make a Haus Rye by adding 2# of malted rye to my Haus Ale grain bill and add 1 oz. of Cascade as dry hopped and the first oz. as FWH.

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

Ed, I would suggest tettnanger over the cascade. I find cascade to citrusy for the rye. Depends on your tastes I guess.

 

[HarvInSTL]

I've been very happy with Liberty and Rye. Nice little spicy combo they make!

Here what I did for my last batch. Only changes I would make for my next batch is up the Rye to 4lbs and not dry hop for 6weeks.

Recipe: 13-RyePA
Brewer: Anthony H
Asst Brewer: 
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0) 

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 5.25 gal      
Boil Size: 6.22 gal
Estimated OG: 1.077 SG
Estimated Color: 13.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 71.3 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount        Item                                      Type         % or IBU      
11 lbs        Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM)          Grain        67.69 %       
3 lbs         Rye Malt (4.7 SRM)                        Grain        18.46 %       
1 lbs 4.0 oz  Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM)     Grain        7.69 %        
8.0 oz        Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM)              Grain        3.08 %        
8.0 oz        Wheat, Flaked (1.6 SRM)                   Grain        3.08 %        
1.75 oz       Liberty [4.30 %]  (60 min) (First Wort HopHops         20.7 IBU      
1.80 oz       Centennial [9.20 %]  (60 min)             Hops         41.4 IBU      
1.50 oz       Centennial [9.20 %]  (Dry Hop 3 days)     Hops          -            
1.00 oz       Liberty [4.30 %]  (30 min)                Hops         8.3 IBU       
2.00 oz       Liberty [4.30 %]  (1 min)                 Hops         1.0 IBU       
1.00 tbsp     PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 60.0 min)         Misc                       
1.00 items    Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min)          Misc                       
1 Pkgs        SafAle American Ale (DCL Yeast #US-05)    Yeast-Ale

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

I've been very happy with Liberty and Rye. Nice little spicy combo they make!

Yeah, any spicey hops work great.

 

[EdWort]

OK, how does this look. It's a modifed version of Denny Conn's Rye IPA. Thanks to TastyBrew.com recipe calculator. That's one cool tool.

I'm going to use Safale -05 yeast with it so I think it will finish below 1.019.

 

[Ryanh1801]

I would be tempted to drop the crystal by a lot. I used .5 pounds in mine and I thought it was way to much. Next time I do a rye IPA im gonna drop it to .25 pounds.I also did a 1-1 on OG-IBU. And thought it needed more bitterness. But I might just be an over the top hop head.

 

[niquejim]

OK, how does this look. It's a modifed version of Denny Conn's Rye IPA. Thanks to TastyBrew.com recipe calculator. That's one cool tool.

I'm going to use Safale -05 yeast with it so I think it will finish below 1.019.

Looks good
I brewed mine today and messed up the hops. Was supposed to be


Low High
OG 1.050 1.073 1.075
FG 1.012 1.018 1.016
IBU 40 57 60+
SRM 8 12 14
ABV 5 7.1 7.8



Fermentables
% Weight Weight (lbs) Grain Gravity Points Color
73.4 % 9.50 British Two-row Pale 56.3 4.8
15.5 % 2.00 Rye 9.4 1.4
5.8 % 0.75 British Crystal 50-60L 4.0 8.3
3.9 % 0.50 CaraPils 2.6 0.2
0.9 % 0.12 Belgian Aromatic 0.6 0.6
0.5 % 0.07 Roasted Barley 0.3 6.3
12.94 73.1

Hops
% Wt Weight (oz) Hop Form AA% AAU Boil Time Utilization IBU
18.2 % 0.50 Columbus Pellet 14.8 7.4 FWH 0.145 16.1
27.3 % 0.75 Chinook Pellet 12.6 9.5 60 0.240 34.0
9.1 % 0.25 Columbus Pellet 14.8 3.7 10 0.087 4.8
9.1 % 0.25 Cascade Pellet 6.4 1.6 10 0.087 2.1
9.1 % 0.25 Columbus Pellet 14.8 3.7 0 0.000 0.0
9.1 % 0.25 Cascade Pellet 6.4 1.6 0 0.000 0.0
9.1 % 0.25 Columbus Pellet 14.8 3.7 DH 0.000 0.0
9.1 % 0.25 Cascade Pellet 6.4 1.6 DH 0.000 0.0


And due to a few too early it became

07. India Pale Ale, India Pale Ale All-grain

Color

Stats
OG 1.070
FG 1.018
IBU 85
ABV 6.7 %
SRM 10

Specifics
Boil Volume 7 gallons
Batch Size 5 gallons
Yeast 75% AA

Style Comparison
Low High
OG 1.050 1.070 1.075
FG 1.012 1.018 1.016
IBU 40 85 60+
SRM 8 10 14
ABV 5 6.7 7.8



Fermentables
% Weight Weight (lbs) Grain Gravity Points Color
74.5 % 9.50 Canadian Two-row Pale 54.0 4.0
15.7 % 2.00 Rye 9.5 1.4
5.9 % 0.75 British Crystal 50-60L 4.0 8.3
3.9 % 0.50 Belgian Aromatic 2.4 2.5
12.75 69.9

Hops
% Wt Weight (oz) Hop Form AA% AAU Boil Time Utilization IBU
15.4 % 0.50 Columbus Pellet 14.8 7.4 FWH 0.154 17.0
23.1 % 0.75 Chinook Pellet 12.6 9.5 30 0.195 27.6
15.4 % 0.50 Cascade Pellet 6.4 3.2 60 0.254 12.2
15.4 % 0.50 Columbus Pellet 14.8 7.4 60 0.254 28.1
7.7 % 0.25 Columbus Pellet 14.8 3.7 0 0.000 0.0
7.7 % 0.25 Cascade Pellet 6.4 1.6 0 0.000 0.0
7.7 % 0.25 Cascade Pellet 6.4 1.6 DH 0.000 0.0
7.7 % 0.25 Columbus Pellet 14.8 3.7 DH 0.000 0.0
3.25 84.9


It is bitter and will need some time, but it tastes good

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

I wouldn't bother with the carapils. The rye gives it mouthfeel and head.

 

[EdWort]

I dont' know if it's going to be any good, but here's what I did today.

BCB Rye IPA

10# 2 Row Pils
2# Rye
2# Vienna
12 oz. Crystal 60L
8 oz. Flaked Barley

1 oz. Tettnanger FWH 4.4%
1 oz. Chinook 60 min 12%
0.5 oz. Chinook 30 min 12%
0.5 oz. Chinook 5 min 12%

Mashed in at 154 degrees for 70 minutes. Ran off 7 gallons and boiled for 90 minutes. It's chilling right now. I'm going to whirlpool it let it sit and rack clear wort off to the fermenter. Going with hydrated Safale -05.

I think this will be a big beer that will take some aging.

 

[niquejim]

Looks like it's going to be pretty tasty in 6-8 weeks maybe a little longer

 

[EdWort]

It came in at 1.064. Not bad. It should finish out at 6.9% abv.

 

[Poindexter]

It came in at 1.064. Not bad. It should finish out at 6.9% abv.

If you ever draw my name in a swap please send me one (or two) of those, damn the torpedoes. Sounds good to me.

 

[EdWort]

It's fermenting happily at 62 degrees this morning. I'm starting to ferment all my beers in the low 60s for a cleaner beer. I'll let this puppy for for a couple weeks before crash cooling.

The hydrometer jar tasted good, so I hope that is a good indicator. I'll dry hop in the keg.

 

[EdWort]

It's now been 4 days after pitching the yeast and the air lock is still bubbling away regularly. I'm guessing the low fermentation temp of 62 degrees has something to do with this.

Nottingham would have finished in 36 hours max at 68 degrees, but I used Safale -05 for this batch.

I'm letting it go two weeks before turning the temp down to crash cool.

 

[BierMuncher]

It's now been 4 days after pitching the yeast and the air lock is still bubbling away regularly. I'm guessing the low fermentation temp of 62 degrees has something to do with this.

Nottingham would have finished in 36 hours max at 68 degrees, but I used Safale -05 for this batch.

I'm letting it go two weeks before turning the temp down to crash cool.

Am I getting some of this?

My "Rye Not" is enjoying some cold keg time with some french oak chips floating around.

 

[EdWort]

Am I getting some of this?

I'll be back in town in May/June time frame. It should be ready for a tasting then. I'll let you know when I get the dates confirmed. I'll bring, my IPA, Porter, Haus, & Rye with me. I'll make sure I don't have too early a flight out the next day too. :cross:

Hopefully HarvInSTL can get some stuff bottled & aged for the O'Fallon HBT Meetup.

 

[niquejim]

Am I getting some of this?

My "Rye Not" is enjoying some cold keg time with some french oak chips floating around.

Mine is still bubblin away after 4 days @60 and will get some Jack Daniels barrel wood chips for a week or two in secondary.
You will get this.

 

[BierMuncher]

Mine is still bubblin away after 4 days @60 and will get some Jack Daniels barrel wood chips for a week or two in secondary.
You will get this.

Yeah baby ...

 

[niquejim]

Yeah baby ...

My recipe is not quite right


Color

Stats
OG 1.070
FG 1.018
IBU 85
ABV 6.7 %
SRM 10

Specifics
Boil Volume 7 gallons
Batch Size 5 gallons
Yeast 75% AA

Style Comparison
Low High
OG 1.050 1.070 1.075
FG 1.012 1.018 1.016
IBU 40 85 60+
SRM 8 10 14
ABV 5 6.7 7.8



Fermentables
% Weight Weight (lbs) Grain Gravity Points Color
74.5 % 9.50 Canadian Two-row Pale 54.0 4.0
15.7 % 2.00 Rye 9.5 1.4
5.9 % 0.75 British Crystal 50-60L 4.0 8.3
3.9 % 0.50 Belgian Aromatic 2.4 2.5
12.75 69.9

Hops
% Wt Weight (oz) Hop Form AA% AAU Boil Time Utilization IBU
15.4 % 0.50 Columbus Pellet 14.8 7.4 FWH 0.154 17.0
23.1 % 0.75 Chinook Pellet 12.6 9.5 30 0.195 27.6
15.4 % 0.50 Cascade Pellet 6.4 3.2 60 0.254 12.2
15.4 % 0.50 Columbus Pellet 14.8 7.4 60 0.254 28.1
7.7 % 0.25 Columbus Pellet 14.8 3.7 0 0.000 0.0
7.7 % 0.25 Cascade Pellet 6.4 1.6 0 0.000 0.0
7.7 % 0.25 Cascade Pellet 6.4 1.6 DH 0.000 0.0
7.7 % 0.25 Columbus Pellet 14.8 3.7 DH 0.000 0.0
3.25 84.9


It is bitter and will need some time, but it tastes good

*******************************************************
I used cara-aroma not Begian Aromatic so it is a bit darker( think American Amber/Brown) with less aroma and more malt and raisin/plum flavor

 

[BierMuncher]

My recipe is not quite right

Looks good to me.

I recon a Rye IP needs 3-4 months minimum to be taste-worthy.

 

[niquejim]

Looks good to me.

I recon a Rye IP needs 3-4 months minimum to be taste-worthy.

When I said not right, I meant not right

If you look at the difference in color and flavor between Aromatic and cara-aroma you will see that it's not a RyePA anymore. If it's as good as my Rambler Owl(which I based this recipe on, just bigger), I may call it "Rye-B-Big Brown Owl" .

It should be something like Hop Rod Rye.

Yeah, but I'll try one at 2 just in case