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My first 2 brews were straight coopers kits. Their yeast really kicks in with some odd (imho) flavors if you ferment it warm, even though they say it works well warm. I did my second one nice and cool and it was VERY much better right off the bat.

I can second this! Coopers yeast provides good results when fermenting around 65. If you ferment any higher than 70 YUCK! Keep it at 65 and you can get some great results.

The real problem with the Coopers kits is their instructions. BRUTAL!!

I challenge anyone who claims Coopers yeast is garbage to brew up a batch of whatever they want, split it in 4. Pitch the dry ale yeast of their choice in 2 fermenters, and Coopers yeast in the other 2 fermenters. Take 1 of each batch and ferment at a controlled 65 degrees. And the other 2 batches and ferment at 80 degrees. Share your results with the rest of the class and show us what you've learned.

Its the instructions that suck, not the yeast.

Coopers wants people to believe they can make a good beer from pitching to drinking in 2 weeks flat. Impossible! But its good business I guess. Alot of new brewers wouldn't want to even try this hobby if they knew how long it actually took to make good beer.

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My problem with the coppers kit is in their kit label since, to me, the beer never really tastes what they advertise. I just finished a "cerveza Mexicana" and while it is drinkable it's nothing like any Mexican beer I ever had. Also, their kit beers have a mildly peculiar taste, a bit unpleasant, which I don't know how to describe, regardless of the flavor. I'm not sure what causes it. :confused:

The Cerveza probably doesn't taste like cerveza because most Mexican beers are lagers, and I would hazard a guess that you brewed it with an ale yeast. I haven't noticed anything peculiar about the flavour of the kits, but maybe I get them fresher than you can ;) Sometimes a bit of a cidery taste, but I've been told this is from using simpler sugars, rather than malt extracts. Usually goes away with time.

The Pale Ale is actually pretty close in flavour to the commercial product if you use the advised Brew Enhancer, and add in a bit of extra hops (Pride of Ringwood I think).

My first 2 brews were straight coopers kits. Their yeast really kicks in with some odd (imho) flavors if you ferment it warm, even though they say it works well warm. I did my second one nice and cool and it was VERY much better right off the bat.

Coopers claim they've bred a yeast that works at warmer temps, due to the warmer climate they have to deal with, but I've found the same as you; that the lower the temp the better.
 
I did my coopers extract-only kit with 2.2lbs corn sugar and it's very weak and watery tasting. Some people use all DME but most recommended me half and half. I still dont think I will do another can again anytime soon, yuck.
 
Use hot tap water, after it runs a bit you will probably be getting sediment and minerals that usually settle in your water heater.
 

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