I like this time at night on HBT

[Varmintman]

I do not know about heaven or hell nor do I care so much. I figure I got to much to do in life to worry much about after I am dead.

Hmm a few years ago I had some medical issues that would have made most people think about heaven and hell. Me I just realized that I need to savor each and every day and enjoy the time I do have with my loved ones. I hug my wife and kid every day and tell them I love them. And then I look forward to the next time I can do the same. I try to help others that need help. I share my beer with everyone. I do not get worked up when things do not go my way.

In short life is just to short to worry about the things you cannot change. I had a boss who told me don't sweat the petty things but pet the sweaty things

 

[emjay]

Lol, slow release nitrogen.

Actually, if an animal pees on a plant to much it can kill it. The ammonia in the urine can burn the plant or mess up the soil ph. That's why people get mad when somebodies dog pees on there roses. Roses are really sensitive to that kind of thing.

Dog urine is generally good for grass, though most people don't think so. Cat urine, on the other hand... might as well just dump ammonia on it. The main difference as far as I can think of is diet. Cats, as carnivores, get a LOT more protein, which is a major source of nitrogen, and it metabolizes into urea/ammonia.

Interesting bit for all you alcoholics out there: when your liver is cirrhotic, one of the things that happens is it becomes unable to properly process protein/ammonia, and the ammonia builds up in your blood and thus your brain, causing severe neurological problems, coma, seizures, etc.

 

[Leadgolem]

Wow man, I thought I was a bit out there at times.

I think your scenario is much like the life we live in, or at least the life I live. In general people like to be around people like them. Whether that be race, interests, religion or whatever the leveling factor is. I think people usually find the most comfort in those they feel comfortable around and that comfort is often based off what I mentioned above. If you don't feel comfortable it can be uncomfortable and in extremes - he!!

I haven't been able to touch the bottom, or see the shore, for a long time brother.

I made mozzarella again, about 5 minutes ago. This time I used about .45 gallons of soured skim milk. Heated to 140f, and added 1 1/2 tsp citric acid dissolved in 1/4 cup of water. Poured the whole sticky mess through a colander, then massaged it with some sea salt. I yielded .35 lbs of cheese. I wasn't being super efficient about it, so I'm calling that about right for the amount of milk used. The cheese is pleasant and not at all tangy. If I hadn't made it, I wouldn't have known it was made from soured milk.

This seems to confirm that temperature, rather then acid type, is the critical factor in determining if you end up with mozzarella or ricotta. Good to know, and tasty too.

 

[Varmintman]

Now lets talk about the mead I made. It was the joam recipe and it is fugly looking still. 6 weeks in and I would not drink it. Black looking and just plain ugly

 

[lschiavo]

You know. I've been wondering lately. What if your soul is just attracted to more of it's own kind after death? If that was the case, wouldn't each soul community set things up to be pleasant for those of there own kind? What would be pleasant to one kind of soul would be torture for another. Would that then account for the perception of heaven and hell? Could hell be just one souls glimpse of an environment preferable to a soul that was it's complete opposite?

Sorry if that's a bit deep, I've been chewing on the idea for a while and can't seem to find anything wrong with it.

Wow man, I thought I was a bit out there at times.

I think your scenario is much like the life we live in, or at least the life I live. In general people like to be around people like them. Whether that be race, interests, religion or whatever the leveling factor is. I think people usually find the most comfort in those they feel comfortable around and that comfort is often based off what I mentioned above. If you don't feel comfortable it can be uncomfortable and in extremes - he!!

There is a heavenly place to me (the way I expect it to be) or there is nothing. Why would I live a good life, caring for others, raising a family and giving everything I have to them...to be cast into hell for some odd sin? I hope I will not lose those that I love when I die but I think I will.

 

[emjay]

I don't believe in god, but I'm pretty sure if heaven did exist, people are ascribing too many earthly qualities to it. If God can exist, surely it must be possible for souls in heaven to be simultaneously with anyone and everyone (and anywhere and everywhere doing anything and everything) that makes them happy, in complete ecstasy - and I don't mean all in the same place.

The "paradox" of a widow who remarries and has to exist with both of their partners TOGETHER is utter nonsense to me. Absurd atheist argument, I can admit.

 

[Leadgolem]

I don't believe in god, but I'm pretty sure heaven did exist, people are ascribing too many earthly qualities to it. If God can exist, surely it must be possible for souls in heaven to be simultaneously with anyone and everyone (and anywhere and everywhere doing anything and everything) that makes them happy - and I don't mean all in the same place. The "paradox" of a widow who remarries and has to exist with both of their partners TOGETHER is utter nonsense to me.

Speaking of doxies, isn't orthodoxy just your doxy and heterodoxy someone else's doxy?

 

[Leadgolem]

 

[Dan]

There is a heavenly place to me (the way I expect it to be) or there is nothing. Why would I live a good life, caring for others, raising a family and giving everything I have to them...to be cast into hell for some odd sin? I hope I will not lose those that I love when I die but I think I will.

So, I think what you are saying is you make your own heaven on earth. If that's correct, I agree.

If there is a heaven above with purity and angels and everything is perfect then great! And us homebrewers will bring beer to heaven.

We hope to live a good life, be good to each other and depending on whatever religion be accepted into the gates of paradise. That's all faith and ... all that.

The last sentence "I hope I will not lose those that I love when I die but I think I will." I believe is up to each person.

At least here on earth. Immortality is not living for ever. It's being remembered forever in my book. So, Ischiavo I believe you make a difference to your family, you love and nurture, stand by their side and love them again.. You'll never be forgotten and will in the end will never lose them but always be part of them.

 

[Leadgolem]

You know, one of these days I'm going to learn to keep my mouth shut. Not today, but one day...

 

[SharonaZamboni]

I found me some cool glassware at Goodwill today. The German military is pulling out of our local base after many years of being here, so you can find a steady stream of German glassware here.

I'm test driving one of the glasses which has a phrase printed on it that you can see on my signature. It translates to; "Beer was his last word then the angels carried him away."...

Cheers friends!

Nice glass!

I don't believe in god, but I'm pretty sure if it did exist, people are ascribing too many earthly qualities to it. If God can exist, surely it must be possible for souls in heaven to be simultaneously with everyone that makes them happy - and I don't mean all in the same place. The "paradox" of a widow who remarries and has to exist with both of their partners TOGETHER is utter nonsense to me.

I imagine that in Heaven, we will be all-knowing. Every question answered, every mystery explained.
According to the Belief O Matic questionnaire(three times), I am 98% Quaker. This prompted me to research a bit, and I think I could be comfortable with their style.

 

[Dan]

I haven't been able to touch the bottom, or see the shore, for a long time brother.

I made mozzarella again, about 5 minutes ago. This time I used about .45 gallons of soured skim milk. Heated to 140f, and added 1 1/2 tsp citric acid dissolved in 1/4 cup of water. Poured the whole sticky mess through a colander, then massaged it with some sea salt. I yielded .35 lbs of cheese. I wasn't being super efficient about it, so I'm calling that about right for the amount of milk used. The cheese is pleasant and not at all tangy. If I hadn't made it, I wouldn't have known it was made from soured milk.

This seems to confirm that temperature, rather then acid type, is the critical factor in determining if you end up with mozzarella or ricotta. Good to know, and tasty too.

What a cheezy post. Congrats on your latest batch!

 

[emjay]

Speaking of doxies, isn't orthodoxy just your doxy and heterodoxy someone else's doxy?

I don't really get the joke, so I'll just say no.

They're all Greek roots... obviously, since dox/y (meaning belief) is in all if them, and words don't generally mix roots - which is why octopuses is actually the correct plural for octopus, not octopi (bet ya didn't know that!)

ortho means "right" (more correct in context - consistent and without change).

hetero means "other"

para means "beyond".

Actually, I can kind of see a joke if you already knew what "ortho" meant and were taking it too literally

 

[opus345]

Now lets talk about the mead I made. It was the joam recipe and it is fugly looking still. 6 weeks in and I would not drink it. Black looking and just plain ugly

Black looking? The orange version and not the quick grape, right? Hmmm. Maybe post a pic or two?

 

[emjay]

Nice glass!

I imagine that in Heaven, we will be all-knowing. Every question answered, every mystery explained.
According to the Belief O Matic questionnaire(three times), I am 98% Quaker. This prompted me to research a bit, and I think I could be comfortable with their style.

I get quaker on those things too! Some of the most liberal branches are definitely something I could get behind (and a good portion, like 20-25%, actually even identify as atheist). By FAR most quakers belong to more conservative and especially evangelical sects that have branched off, though. Where I moved last year is actually just a couple minutes away from the oldest protected quaker heritage site in North America (possibly worldwide but I'd imagine Britain has older ones). I've actually considered checking out a liberal branch around here if I could find one, just to see.

The other biggy I get is unitarian universalism.

 

[Leadgolem]

I don't really get the joke, so I'll just say no.

They're all Greek roots... obviously, since dox/y (meaning belief) is in all if them, and words don't generally mix roots - which is why octopuses is actually the correct plural for octopus, not octopi (bet ya didn't know that!)

ortho means "right" (more correct in context - consistent and without change).

hetero means "other"

para means "beyond".

Actually, I can kind of see a joke if you already knew what "ortho" meant and were taking it too literally

Careful there, you might end up in non-heterodoxy territory. :fro:

 

[lschiavo]

So, I think what you are saying is you make your own heaven on earth. If that's correct, I agree.

If there is a heaven above with purity and angels and everything is perfect then great! And us homebrewers will bring beer to heaven.

We hope to live a good life, be good to each other and depending on whatever religion be accepted into the gates of paradise. That's all faith and ... all that.

The last sentence "I hope I will not lose those that I love when I die but I think I will." I believe is up to each person.

At least here on earth. Immortality is not living for ever. It's being remembered forever in my book. So, Ischiavo I believe you make a difference to your family, you love and nurture, stand by their side and love them again.. You'll never be forgotten and will in the end will never lose them but always be part of them.

You and I would be fast friends if not for the miles that separate us. Your presence here really does warm my heart.

 

[bottlebomber]

I found me some cool glassware at Goodwill today.

Those are just... Badass.

The blackberries are definitely dead. 4 of the grapes are definitely dead. The blueberries are dead. All three of the trees look dead, though I won't be sure for a another couple weeks.

that sucks. Most places won't ship until after frost date, period.

Now lets talk about the mead I made. It was the joam recipe and it is fugly looking still. 6 weeks in and I would not drink it. Black looking and just plain ugly

My JOAM almost got dumped in the yard waste bin at 6 weeks. I can't even describe how nasty it was... 3 months later I took a small swig off the bottle, and although it wasn't exactly delicious I could see that it wasn't bad it was just needs LOTS of time. I used champagne yeast and so got a much driers mead than the recipe intends.

I don't believe in god,

bullsh!t

but I'm pretty sure if heaven did exist, people are ascribing too many earthly qualities to it.

I agree 100%. People always try to fill in the gaps when things are beyond their understanding. Sometimes it's just better to admit that you don't know. I don't know if aliens exist, for example. One time on LSD I thought that I saw a large starcraft passing overhead, but deduced later that I was just really really high.

 

[Stauffbier]

Dog urine is generally good for grass.

That's not at all true! I've always had hybrid tiff-green (golf coarse grass), and every dog I've ever owned left little yellow, dead spots everywhere they pi$$ed. I will agree that cat pi$$ is far worse, though. That stuff can ruin ANYTHING it touches! Stupid cats!

I haven't been able to touch the bottom, or see the shore, for a long time brother.

I made mozzarella again, about 5 minutes ago. This time I used about .45 gallons of soured skim milk. Heated to 140f, and added 1 1/2 tsp citric acid dissolved in 1/4 cup of water. Poured the whole sticky mess through a colander, then massaged it with some sea salt. I yielded .35 lbs of cheese. I wasn't being super efficient about it, so I'm calling that about right for the amount of milk used. The cheese is pleasant and not at all tangy. If I hadn't made it, I wouldn't have known it was made from soured milk.

This seems to confirm that temperature, rather then acid type, is the critical factor in determining if you end up with mozzarella or ricotta. Good to know, and tasty too.

That's good to know. I was daydreaming about making cheese today, and I had an epiphany that temperature was the key. I'm going to raise the temp next time I try making the mozz!

 

[Leadgolem]

 

[lschiavo]

I imagine that in Heaven, we will be all-knowing. Every question answered, every mystery explained.
According to the Belief O Matic questionnaire(three times), I am 98% Quaker. This prompted me to research a bit, and I think I could be comfortable with their style.

Have you ever done it Quaker style? I haven't but am always looking to learn something...

 

[bottlebomber]

Have you ever done it Quaker style? I haven't but am always looking to learn something...

Bwaahahahaha!!!

 

[Dan]

You and I would be fast friends if not for the miles that separate us. Your presence here really does warm my heart.

Dont worry about that.. someday .. Ah crap! Lightbulb just turned on. Has there ever been a get together amongst homebrewers of this thread? Could we pull off some sort of HBT "I like this time of night" get together? Planning things is not my strong part. Anybody here that knows how please chime in. We're spread across the country. But sure would like to have a beer with you guys. "That" would be heaven.

 

[BobbiLynn]

Now lets talk about the mead I made. It was the joam recipe and it is fugly looking still. 6 weeks in and I would not drink it. Black looking and just plain ugly

Did you even taste it? Sometimes ugly things taste really good. Like lobster.

Hubby and I finished the chicken trailer thing today. My hands are all cut up from the chicken wire. Worse part was getting all the chickens moved in. The white ones are mean, biting and scratching me. Hubby won't touch the chickens so his helping, was quick, grab this one, and that one's getting away! And hurry, more over here are trying to get away!

 

[opus345]

Have you ever done it Quaker style? I haven't but am always looking to learn something...

Would be messy and sticky with all the oats, brown sugar and raisins....hmmm....

 

[passedpawn]

Please don't get into any type of debate about religion.

 

[bottlebomber]

Please don't get into any type of debate about religion.

I don't think it was going there... I know I certainly wasn't going to. I think the core group here is well enough acquainted with each other to be above a petty debate in the glorious thread about, well...

 

[lschiavo]

Would be messy and sticky with all the oats, brown sugar and raisins....hmmm....

Sounds yummy!

Please don't get into any type of debate about religion.

We are discussing fermentibles only. So please poke your nose elsewhere sir Moderatore.

 

[brewingmeister]

Please don't get into any type of debate about religion.

yeah, and take the politics talk out back and drop a steaming pile on 'em.

 

[bottlebomber]

Would be messy and sticky with all the oats, brown sugar and raisins....hmmm....

Oatmeal cookie beer... Bobbi! Start working on a recipe.