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Still just extract - maybe 100 batches later. Including one third place IPA in a Philadelphia Beer Week invitational event this past summer. Don't believe those who say you can't make good extract beers.

I just don't have the time, space or inclination to try all grain.
 
watched a buddy do two extract batches, did one myself ........... all grain after that.

First all grain IPA I did was light years ahead of the extract IPA that I did one batch prior.

As far as time goes, it doesn't take much longer to do all grain than it does to do extract w/ steeping grains. All grain - you mash for 60 minutes, extract - steep for 45? .... I can't even remember.

Space ....... you need a cooler and the ability to do full boils. That's one additional piece of equipment assuming you already do full boils with extract.

DO IT!!! you'll never look back ........... you will kick yourself for not doing it (insert number of brews less 1 here) brews ago.
 
Haven't read the thread, so I'm probably not saying anything new.

There is no all-grain boogyman. The only reasons to do extract that I can think of are:

1) make sure you will stick with it before buying necessary equipment for AG
2) no space for AG equipment
3) no desire to spend extra time or effort on AG brew day
4) no immediate cash for AG equipment upgrades

Other than #1 above, I would argue there is no reason for anybody to ever brew an extract batch, so long as they have the desire and resources to do AG. #1 is a pretty good reason to do several though.

As for me, I did probably 6 extract batches, which all sucked. For whatever reason, I could not brew a good beer with extract. No idea why.

Even if I could brew extracts that taste good, I wouldn't. I enjoy the AG process too much to ever skip those steps.
 
1 pure extract, 1 with grains.

The extract sucked, the extract with grains went very well (it was a mini-mash, so it's the same as a small mash). I went AG on the third and have enjoyed every (almost) beer since. I have recently brewed batch #100!!
 
Haven't read the thread, so I'm probably not saying anything new.

There is no all-grain boogyman. The only reasons to do extract that I can think of are:

1) make sure you will stick with it before buying necessary equipment for AG
2) no space for AG equipment
3) no desire to spend extra time or effort on AG brew day
4) no immediate cash for AG equipment upgrades

Other than #1 above, I would argue there is no reason for anybody to ever brew an extract batch, so long as they have the desire and resources to do AG. #1 is a pretty good reason to do several though.

As for me, I did probably 6 extract batches, which all sucked. For whatever reason, I could not brew a good beer with extract. No idea why.

Even if I could brew extracts that taste good, I wouldn't. I enjoy the AG process too much to ever skip those steps.

You're right there is no AG bogeyman. In fact it is REALLY easy.

All you need is a paint strainer bag to do all grain. You just have to hold a mixture of the bag of grains and water at a certain temp for 1hr (though usually less than an hr).
 
Still just extract - maybe 100 batches later. Including one third place IPA in a Philadelphia Beer Week invitational event this past summer. Don't believe those who say you can't make good extract beers.

I just don't have the time, space or inclination to try all grain.

As for time, I started my AG batch at 10:45 last night. I finished at 1:15am. I usually wait to pitch in the morning. It adds about an hour and fifteen minutes at the most once I got the method down.

As for space, my grain bag takes up no extra space if I do the Aussie BIAB method, except extra space in the trashcan for the used grains.
 
I waited 1 year brewing extracts to make sure I really liked this hobby before I made the investment and jump to AG.
 
Two extract batches, three partial BIAB batches. I will brew my first all grain on Boxing Day
 
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