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I found this website through this forum: Mrmalty.com

Its a great resource to know what kind of yeast you'll need. WHile you don't "need" a starter, its always good practice to do it. It lets you see that the yeast is active and healthy, as well as creating enough to make your brew. But the biggest reason for using a yeast starter is... why not use one? It takes a day or two extra planning. But the peace of mind is worth it.
 
I found this website through this forum: Mrmalty.com

Its a great resource to know what kind of yeast you'll need. WHile you don't "need" a starter, its always good practice to do it. It lets you see that the yeast is active and healthy, as well as creating enough to make your brew. But the biggest reason for using a yeast starter is... why not use one? It takes a day or two extra planning. But the peace of mind is worth it.

:mug: buy this man a beer!!!


Gilby, maybe you should do a bit more reading on the subject of yeast, yeast health, and pitch rates and what those things contribute to the finished brew. a good beer can be made with an under pitch, no doubt. but why take the chance when it's easy to insure that your fermentation, thus your beer will be great.
 
happypanties said:
Is a starter really necessary? What would happen if I don't use one?

I am a starter maker. Last month, a trend came over and wanted to see the brew process... I didn't have a starter. We pitched a relatively fresh vial of WLP002. The beer was incredibly delicious. Sure, it was slightly underattenuated, but nothing big. Starters are insurance, IMO... unless the OG is predicted to be above 1.060ish, then it's much more important.

Cheers!
 
@ NordeastBrewer77

What DME would I use for a starter in this situation? One that came with the Kit? Or something you would normally have on hand?
 
Balto said:
@ NordeastBrewer77

What DME would I use for a starter in this situation? One that came with the Kit? Or something you would normally have on hand?

If you decant, doesn't really matter. I keep light DME around just for starters. I know, I'm not who you asked...
 
NordeastBrewer77 said:
:mug: buy this man a beer!!!

Gilby, maybe you should do a bit more reading on the subject of yeast, yeast health, and pitch rates and what those things contribute to the finished brew. a good beer can be made with an under pitch, no doubt. but why take the chance when it's easy to insure that your fermentation, thus your beer will be great.

Dude relax, have a beer and let it go. You are way too sensitive and taking my posts about beer way too personally. I'll post my opinions and you can post yours and we'll all live happily ever after.
 
@ NordeastBrewer77

What DME would I use for a starter in this situation? One that came with the Kit? Or something you would normally have on hand?

i always use the lightest DME available for any starter. Midwest supply has a 'discount cart' right by the checkout where they discount broken bags of DME, dinged cans of extract, dated yeast, etc. if there's a light type of DME on it, i buy it for starters. otherwise i go with pilsen or extra light DME.

Dude relax, have a beer and let it go. You are way too sensitive and taking my posts about beer way too personally. I'll post my opinions and you can post yours and we'll all live happily ever after.

always relaxed bro. there was nothing to let go in the first place, sorry to burst your bubble, but i didn't take anything you said at a personal level, that'd be silly. simply stated that you weren't entirely correct and why. nothing personal, but on that subject, i noticed that almost half of your total posts on HBT are on this thread, arguing with me. maybe you shouldn't take it so personally when someone says something that isn't in line with your opinions. again, nothing personal here, but i really suggest some reading on the subject of yeast and fermentation before you start giving advice based soley on your experience.
 
Just wanted to chime in about starters. I use XL dme and normally don't decant (if its a 1L starter in a 5 gallon batch). Its worth noting though that if you're going to decant, that will take more time!

Preparedness is key with liquid yeasts. Time and supplies are important. Gotta keep the pipeline moving.
 
I also use extra light DME for my starters. I decant anything larger than 1L.

Also, an excellent read for those who need more information on proper pitch rates, yeast health, viability, etc. is "Yeast" by Jamil Zainasheff and Chris White of Whitelabs.
 
always relaxed bro. there was nothing to let go in the first place, sorry to burst your bubble, but i didn't take anything you said at a personal level, that'd be silly. simply stated that you weren't entirely correct and why. nothing personal, but on that subject, i noticed that almost half of your total posts on HBT are on this thread, arguing with me. maybe you shouldn't take it so personally when someone says something that isn't in line with your opinions. again, nothing personal here, but i really suggest some reading on the subject of yeast and fermentation before you start giving advice based soley on your experience.

Don't worry about me bro, I've done plenty of reading on yeast. I don't take everything I read as the gospel and I like to make my own conclusions based on my own personal experience. If you actually read my posts and took half a second to understand what I was saying before you comment, you would see that I'm not against making yeast starters and that I totally understand the science behind it and I tried to agree with you on this aspect. My point, based on my experience, is that yes you can make "great" beer without starters and 99 times out of 100 any off flavors are hardly noticeable and are not present enough to not enjoy your beer 100%, and no I don't have a dull palate as you stated in your earlier insult. Maybe I've just been lucky.
 
Don't worry about me bro, I've done plenty of reading on yeast. I don't take everything I read as the gospel and I like to make my own conclusions based on my own personal experience. If you actually read my posts and took half a second to understand what I was saying before you comment, you would see that I'm not against making yeast starters and that I totally understand the science behind it and I tried to agree with you on this aspect. My point, based on my experience, is that yes you can make "great" beer without starters and 99 times out of 100 any off flavors are hardly noticeable and are not present enough to not enjoy your beer 100%, and no I don't have a dull palate as you stated in your earlier insult. Maybe I've just been lucky.

Ok, time to let it go. :mug:
 

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