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chevalcider

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I have just started brewing ciders (first brewing attempt altogether). My first batch was close to six gallons of pressed juice from a batch of Trail crab apples. I racked it four times (the final one being into the bottling bucket - bottling immediately after racking. I back sweetened with sugar and bottled with intentions of doing the stovetop pasteurization once it had reached the right carbonation. I am 9 days in and my test bottle still isn't much firmer than the day I bottled. This seems odd to me as the cider fermented out in 1 week initially. I have searched the forum and I still haven't been able to tell how long I should be waiting.

Here are my particulars:
- OG 1.053
- FG 0.998 (after 1 week in primary)
- Fresh pressed juice - 5 campden tabs
- Yeast - EC 1118 rehydrated and pitched 24 hours after sulfite
- 7 days from 1.053 to 0.998
- 1st racking @ 7 days
- 2nd racking after another 2 weeks
- 3rd racking 1 week later
- After about 1 week after 3rd racking I used 1/2 pack Knox gelatin and let rest 5 more days. Turned out incredibly clear.
- Racked into bottling bucket and back sweetened to a SG of 1.014. My forum searches seemed to tell me that this Sg would give me carbonation and still leave enough residual sweetness once pasteurized.
- Bottled into clear glass bottles. Mix of MGD, Twisted Tea and Smirnoff Ice (something I think we only get here in Canada)
- Filled one plastic Coke bottle as a tester.
- Bottles stored in the same room I did my primary and secondary fermentations. Temperature is almost always between 68 and 70.

I made the assumption that since the primary fermented out from 1.053 to 0.998 in one week, my carbonation would happen at a similar rate, especially considering I'm using the EC 1118 yeast. I've cracked open three bottles and sampled. It doesn't taste too bad...only a slight rubbing alcohol feel in the nose...definitely diminishing as it ages. The last one I sampled seems to have a slight carbonation bite and a very small puffing hiss when I opened it. The sweetness is definitely diminished since bottling. There is also a small dusting of sediment on the bottom of the bottle.

Am I being impatient? Will it carb? Was my assumption that the EC 1118 would carb up fast a mistaken one/ Should I do anything else? A warmer place for the bottles?
 
Well, I gave it a little shake and moved it to a warmer spot in the basement - right beside the furnace. It seems as if it is slowly firming the test bottle.
 
So first thought as always - be patient. If you're getting a little hiss, it's doing something.

Next thought, you mention it being really clear and racking 4 times and using gelatin. I'm wondering how much yeast you have left.

Are those bottles pry off caps in Canada - in the US those would be twist offs and harder to get a good seal.
 
I think you are right about having patience! I have been sampling quite regularly now and the hiss seems to be getting slightly more pronounced. The feel of carbonation on the mouth is where I am really noticing it now. My test bottle is nearing the feel of a soft drink before opening.

All bottles I have been using so far have been crown tops. I have to be careful with the Smirnoff Ice. Some of the bottles I am finding at the recyclers are twist off. What sort of hiss should I expect when my test bottle is nearing soft drink hardness? Should it sound like cracking open a Coke? I am no where near that...just wondering if my capping wasn't proper. I have never brewed anything before. Used my friends red wing capper.
 
*Also posted in the pasteurization sticky*

Just pasteurized 30 bottles of cider. I opened one sample just before I pasteurized and I found that the carbonation level was good enough for me but as much as others I have seen. No where near a gusher. When I pour it I got some bubbles on the top but it was no where near foaming when I opened. I could really see that the liquid level rose significantly when I pulled the bottles out of the bath.

Out of 30 bottles I lost 1 to a bottom blowing off and lost three to blown caps. The bottle with the blown bottle is most likely my fault. I was using a canner...not the heaviest material...I turned the heat on with a few minutes left to get a head start on re-heating...most likely over heated the bottom of the bottle and stressed it out. Has anyone ever blown caps off before? I am using a cap I purchased at the local home brew shop. I was told that it would work to cap Canadian industry standard twist-off beer bottles. I have also read that these caps are thinner than the regular crown top caps.
 
First time I made cider and only put in 4 oz of priming sugar it took a good 2 weeks to carb.

This latest batch I made they were ready to go on Day 6.
 
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