they're irrelevant. kinda like those strange toe/glove socks.
How does BMC brew beer that has no flavor?
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they're irrelevant. kinda like those strange toe/glove socks.
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Anyone know what these beers tasted like before they became giant conglomerates? Or are the original recipes lost?
What I find funny is how so many homebrewers love the variety that comes with homebrewing. Never do you find people who drink such a variety of different styles of beer as you do with homebrewers. However, as soon as BMC is mentioned, there is fervor of hatred that pops up. That same fervor never seems to pop up when stout is mentioned, or hell even blonde ale.
When somebody says they don't like BMC, that's just their personal taste. However, when someone feels the need to announce that BMC is crap and launch into a long diatribe over the mere mention of BMC, it's silly and snobby.
As for me? I love most all styles of beer, to include American pilsners. And BMC makes a good American pilsner. They don't make up much of beer diet, but they have their place.
How did you possibly think this was going to turn out? You asked a loaded question in a very biased manner.
Frankly, I find it hard to believe your original question was genuine in the first place.
When somebody says they don't like BMC, that's just their personal taste. However, when someone feels the need to announce that BMC is crap and launch into a long diatribe over the mere mention of BMC, it's silly and snobby.
As for me? I love most all styles of beer, to include American pilsners. And BMC makes a good American pilsner. They don't make up much of beer diet, but they have their place.
How did you possibly think this was going to turn out? You asked a loaded question in a very biased manner.
Frankly, I find it hard to believe your original question was genuine in the first place.
orangehero
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Who launched into a diatribe against BMC? There were plenty of launches of how we should respect them for whatever even though it's mass produced swill driven entirely by marketing. Don't we support changing attitudes and tastes regarding beer? We don't criticize BMC so people will comform to our tastes, rather the opposite.
You have over a thousand posts in this forum. Unless you have blinders on, you've seen it time and time again here.
shhhh. I'm being snobby with my dislike for BMC and their light versions. I don't want you to ruin the experience with your snob snobbery.
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orangehero
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What's funny about it, though? Makes perfect sense. In general we're passionate about beer, about making it, about trying new things and experimenting, about exploring the world of beer. Basically BMC stands for the exact opposite of that, hence why homebrewers have such strong attitudes towards it. We don't look down on BMC drinkers, that would be snobby, we look down on BMC.
I'm sorry, but BMC is a great example of the American Pilsner. This is the traditional American beer; your brewing heritage. I came to this country 30 years ago, and BMC (and the like) was all you could get in the Supermarket. There was no such thing as Craft Beer. Sam Adams and Sierra Nevada, the start of the revolution, were very local breweries then.
Not only has the product continued to grow in the US, even with the advent of craft beer, it has grown, and is recognized, worldwide.
We may appreciate more flavor in our beers, and think of it as nothing more than a lawnmower beer. But it is probably the most consumed beer style in the world, meets a need, and an excellent product for what it is. "Mass produced swill" will not survive in the marketplace, no matter how great the marketing. And BMC has survived for decades and is a very healthy brand.
ABVIBUSRM
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believe what you want dude..it was genuine..i just got on this forum very shortly ago i did not know people would get worked up so much asking a question about a industrial beer brewing technique..."how does BMC make such a flavorless beer?" thats a real loaded question
They make good beer. They may not make the beer style that you enjoy, however, that doesn't mean their beer isn't good. For the most part, all breweries are trying to sell as much beer as possible. BMC is no different. They've been around much longer than most craft breweries and have a huge market share. They didn't get there just by advertising. They got there by making good beer (of a style you may not care for) and good advertising. I don't think this is the opposite of what homebrewers stand for.
Furthermore, the BMC companies come out with new beers periodically. They almost always flop. The American populace enjoys their light American lager.
believe what you want dude..it was genuine..i just got on this forum very shortly ago i did not know people would get worked up so much asking a question about a industrial beer brewing technique..."how does BMC make such a flavorless beer?" thats a real loaded question
Are you new to brewing? I thought I remember reading a recent post by you that said you had been brewing for ten years. If you've been brewing that long, how is this a genuine question? Different beer styles require different types and amounts of grains and different types and amounts of hops.
And your disclaimer to start it off made it loaded as well.
you've changed my mind. I renounce all other beer! and I shall only eat at McDonald's, since they sell a butt load of "food" at low prices they must be really great at what they do. it's also my heritage.
ABVIBUSRM
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Not new to brewing new to this forum..listen man if you took it that im a troll and posted the question to start a childish war..you are mistaken sir..Just cause i been brewing for 10 years dont make me a brewmaster I have alot to learn..having never attemped an american lager i know nothing about brewing them..I just amazed that they brew such a light flavored beer..but at this point i really dont give crap..forget i asked.
Nowhere did I say that you should renounce all other beer. In fact, my original post here was specifically about variety of beer.
And McDonalds is great at what they do. Their sales numbers prove it. Show me otherwise. Their food is very unhealthy, so I don't eat it.
Do you enjoy stirring the pot?
orangehero
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Fixed.
they are great at selling a cheap product with minimal flavor to the masses. I just figured that if beer snobbery=disliking specific styles, why not just go even across the board? I do enjoy stirring the pot. obviously, so do you. but that's not what this is about. I can and will say that BMC is crap. it holds no place for me in my life. I do not enjoy it nor do I need to respect the brewery nor the brewers of said products. it's asinine. that's like saying that I need to respect McDonald's and their employees for producing minimally edible food because they make it the same all over the nation every day and tons of people buy it every day.
ABVIBUSRM
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"Different beer styles require different types and amounts of grains and different types and amounts of hops"... yeah those ingredients flavor beer i ask how they brew flavorless ..AB has to use a technique that is not used in basic brewing practice..they do something to the beer it has to be..anyway whatever
ABVIBUSRM
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They dilute...ok great i got my answer
They use less grains and they use low SRM grains
People can love BMC all they want here.... I do everything I can to not give a penny to them for their crappy tasting products... just my personal opinion...
They are consistent and of course they have amazing equipment that pretty much makes the process foolproof... this is from talking to a 30 year Bud veteran at one of their Texas breweries... they figured out how to make flavorless beer as well as anyone ever.
They are consistent and of course they have amazing equipment that pretty much makes the process foolproof... this is from talking to a 30 year Bud veteran at one of their Texas breweries... they figured out how to make flavorless beer as well as anyone ever.
Some of my best friends drink BMC. I am never condescending.
Of course if they come to my house I make them leave it in their car.
Of course if they come to my house I make them leave it in their car.
Actually I found out that at the start of the diet/light beer revolutiom, miller somehow made a yeast that produces some compounds that guard entirely against photolysis (that's the term right?) Which causes skunk flavor. They have the sole proprietary rights to this yeast strain so they are the only brewery with a clear/green bottle and not have to worry about skunk. Champaign of beers! Take that Heineken
BMC sucks. I guess being really good at sucking is enough though. They keep them flavorless so that anyone can easily drink them and so that they can sell them really cheap.
Every one of us had to develop our palettes over time. No one turned 21 and immediately reached for the biggest hop bomb they could find.
Personally I drank gallons of that crap. I even swore that bud light was good but Miller was horse pi$$. When I started drinking craft beer my friends made fun of me. They thought craft beers were disgusting and bmc was great! Now they all drink craft beers and think bmc is disgusting. Funny how things change.
-ben
Every one of us had to develop our palettes over time. No one turned 21 and immediately reached for the biggest hop bomb they could find.
Personally I drank gallons of that crap. I even swore that bud light was good but Miller was horse pi$$. When I started drinking craft beer my friends made fun of me. They thought craft beers were disgusting and bmc was great! Now they all drink craft beers and think bmc is disgusting. Funny how things change.
-ben
FloppyKnockers
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I really love and respect BMC. I can't imagine a world without it. If it weren't for BMC, I would not have seen the amount of ****ies I have seen, have the stories I have to tell, made the temporary friends I made, woke up between two naked girls in a dorm room, or learned how far one can projectile vomit...The college experience would have been drastically different.
You must know what bad is to appreciate good.
You must know what bad is to appreciate good.
Last night I was at a friend's house, and he had some Michelob Ultra that someone had brought over. I hadn't had a BMC in at least a decade (maybe longer). I decided, what the hell, and had one. I have to say, I was shocked by the beer. It had a nice, light floral hoppy aroma, with some sweet malt backing it up, and it was a really clean, easy drinking beer. I thought it was damn good. I'd like to see the craft brewery that could brew as delicate and light of a beer as this with absolutely no off-flavors. I'm not sure they exist. Also, if the can said 'Ballast Point' on it, I bet it would sell to the craft crowd. Maybe not like Sculpin, but I think craft drinkers looking for lagers would go for it.
