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z987k

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Started my first brew a few minutes ago, I was wondering, with the hops, do they need to be in a bag like the grains. I seem to remember reading somewhere you put the hops in a bag and boiled them for the desired amount of time then took the bag out. However the directions that can with the extract kit that I got just says to add the hops, as in just throw them in by themselves and boil. Which is correct, or both? Advantages and disadvantages to either if both is acceptable?

Thanks,
Zach
 
Here is some info on hops im sure other members will also contribute to your question.
Hops are a natural preservative and part of the early use of hops in beer was to preserve it. Hops were added directly to the cask after fermentation to keep it fresh while it was transported. This is how one particular style of beer, India Pale Ale, was developed. At the turn of the 18th century, British brewers began shipping strong ale with lots of hops added to the barrels to preserve it over the several month voyage to India. By journey's end, the beer had acquired a depth of hop aroma and flavor. Perfect for quenching the thirst of British personnel in the tropics.

Beer wouldn't be beer without hops - hops provide the balance, and are the signature in many styles. The bitterness contributed by hops balances the sweetness of the malt sugars and provides a refreshing finish. The main bittering agent is the alpha acid resin which is insoluble in water until isomerized by boiling. The longer the boil, the greater the percentage of isomerization and the more bitter the beer gets. However, the oils that contribute characteristic flavors and aromas are volatile and are lost to a large degree during the long boil. There are many varieties of hops, but they are usually divided into two general categories: Bittering and Aroma. Bittering hops are high in alpha acids, at about 10 percent by weight. Aroma hops are usually lower, around 5 percent and contribute a more desirable aroma and flavor to the beer. Several hop varieties are in-between and are used for both purposes. Bittering hops, also known as kettle hops, are added at the start of the boil and boiled for about an hour. Aroma hops are added towards the end of the boil and are typically boiled for 15 minutes or less. Aroma hops are also referred to as finishing hops. By adding different varieties of hops at different times during the boil, a more complex hop profile can be established that gives the beer a balance of hop bitterness, taste and aroma. Descriptions of the five main types of hop additions and their attributes follow.

First Wort Hopping
An old yet recently rediscovered process (at least among homebrewers), first wort hopping (FWH) consists of adding a large portion of the finishing hops to the boil kettle as the wort is received from the lauter tun. As the boil tun fills with wort (which may take a half hour or longer), the hops steep in the hot wort and release their volatile oils and resins. The aromatic oils are normally insoluble and tend to evaporate to a large degree during the boil. By letting the hops steep in the wort prior to the boil, the oils have more time to oxidize to more soluble compounds and a greater percentage are retained during the boil.

Only low alpha finishing hops should be used for FWH, and the amount should be no less than 30% of the total amount of hops used in the boil. This FWH addition therefore should be taken from the hops intended for finishing additions. Because more hops are in the wort longer during the boil, the total bitterness of the beer in increased but not by a substantial amount due to being low in alpha acid. In fact, one study among professional brewers determined that the use of FWH resulted in a more refined hop aroma, a more uniform bitterness (i.e. no harsh tones), and a more harmonious beer overall compared to an identical beer produced without FWH.

Bittering
The primary use of hops is for bittering. Bittering hops additions are boiled for 45-90 minutes to isomerize the alpha acids; the most common interval being one hour. There is some improvement in the isomerization between 45 and 90 minutes (about 5%), but only a small improvement at longer times ( <1%). The aromatic oils of the hops used in the bittering addition(s) tend to boil away, leaving little hop flavor and no aroma. Because of this, high alpha varieties (which commonly have poor aroma characteristics) can be used to provide the bulk of the bitterness without hurting the taste of the beer. If you consider the cost of bittering a beer in terms of the amount of alpha acid per unit weight of hop used, it is more economical to use a half ounce of a high alpha hop rather than 1 or 2 ounces of a low alpha hop. You can save your more expensive (or scarce) aroma hops for flavoring and finishing.

Flavoring
By adding the hops midway through the boil, a compromise between isomerization of the alpha acids and evaporation of the aromatics is achieved yielding characteristic flavors. These flavoring hop additions are added 40-20 minutes before the end of the boil, with the most common time being 30 minutes. Any hop variety may be used. Usually the lower alpha varieties are chosen, although some high alpha varieties such as Columbus and Challenger have pleasant flavors and are commonly used. Often small amounts (1/4-1/2 oz) of several varieties will be combined at this stage to create a more complex character.

Finishing
When hops are added during the final minutes of the boil, less of the aromatic oils are lost to evaporation and more hop aroma is retained. One or more varieties of hop may be used, in amounts varying from 1/4 - 4 oz, depending on the character desired. A total of 1-2 oz. is typical. Finishing hop additions are typically 15 minutes or less before the end of the boil, or are added "at knockout" (when the heat is turned off) and allowed to steep ten minutes before the wort is cooled. In some setups, a "hopback" is used - the hot wort is run through a small chamber full of fresh hops before the wort enters a heat exchanger or chiller.

A word of caution when adding hops at knockout or using a hopback - depending on several factors, e.g. amount, variety, freshness, etc., the beer may take on a grassy taste due to tannins and other compounds which are usually neutralized by the boil. If short boil times are not yielding the desired hop aroma or a grassy flavor is evident, then I would suggest using FWH or Dry Hopping.

Dry Hopping
Hops can also be added to the fermenter for increased hop aroma in the final beer. This is called "dry hopping" and is best done late in the fermentation cycle. If the hops are added to the fermenter while it is still actively bubbling, then a lot of the hop aroma will be carried away by the carbon dioxide. It is better to add the hops (usually about a half ounce per 5 gallons) after bubbling has slowed or stopped and the beer is going through the conditioning phase prior to bottling. The best way to utilize dry hopping is to put the hops in a secondary fermenter, after the beer has been racked away from the trub and can sit a couple of weeks before bottling, allowing the volatile oils to diffuse into the beer. Many homebrewers put the hops in a nylon mesh bag - a Hop Bag, to facilitate removing the hops before bottling. Dry hopping is appropriate for many pale ale and lager styles.

When you are dry hopping there is no reason to worry about adding unboiled hops to the fermenter. Infection from the hops just doesn't happen.
 
Here is what the wizard says about this topic.
Hop Bags: Mr. Wizard

Dear Mr. Wizard,
What are your thoughts or recommendations on using hop bags when brewing. I enjoy the hoppier spectrum of beers but also appreciate the pouring ease and cleaning convenience of keeping the hop pellets in bags. Do these bags diminish hop utilization?

Mr. Wizard replies: My overall philosophy with brewing is extremely simple and goes something like this: &#8220;If the method works to produce good tasting beer with the desired aroma, stability, appearance and material yields &#8212; it&#8217;s OK with me!&#8221; Let&#8217;s face it, hops and malt are messy to deal with and there are many things we do as brewers to minimize the mess. Mash tuns and lauter tuns are usually designed to make clean up easy and the same is true with hopping techniques. Let&#8217;s first look at some of the ways brewers deal with hops.

The majority of brewers usually do not use whole hops because they are a pain to separate from the wort and require some type of hop separator. However, many of our nation&#8217;s notable brewers do use whole hops. This list includes Anheuser-Busch, Coors, Sierra Nevada and Anchor.

Most brewers use pelletized hops because they are much easier to ship, store, handle and separate than whole hop cones. Commercial brewers use whirlpool vessels to separate trub and hop solids from wort. Even brewers using whole hops spin their wort in a whirlpool to separate trub from wort. A whirlpool vessel usually has a flat bottom and is dimensioned with a height-to-diameter ratio ranging from 1:1 to 1:3. Most whirlpools fall into the short and wide category. Wort is introduced after boiling through a tangential inlet to get the wort spinning. After filling, the liquid slowly stops spinning and the solids are deposited in the center of the vessel where they remain while the clarified wort is transferred to the wort cooler.

Finally there are brewers who skip this whole hoppy mess and extract the goodies from the hops in a separate facility. Many European brewers use hop extracts and there are many types available. Although these products lack tradition and romance, they do offer many advantages including the &#8220;less mess&#8221; factor.

Your desire to make hop handling easier is clearly a topic of importance to all brewers and there is not a single &#8220;right&#8221; method. Hop bags are certainly convenient for homebrewers because our brew kettles are much smaller than those used in commercial breweries. The amount of hops used by homebrewers is also fairly small. The most important thing to consider when using hops is that if they don&#8217;t get completely hydrated and exposed to the wort or beer (like in dry hopping) the acids and oils may not transfer from the hop pellet or cone into the liquid.

This may sound unlikely, but it does indeed happen. I was once on site for a brewhouse commissioning and saw a pile of pellet hops that were dry in the center of the mass sitting in the bottom of a 250-barrel (7,750-gallon) kettle after the boil. The pellet hops had clumped together in the vacuum package and were not broken up enough before being tossed into the boiling wort. The lesson: If you choose to use a hop bag for pellet hops, make sure it&#8217;s large enough to allow the hops to hydrate without being restricted by the bag. Cone hops increase in volume approximately by a factor of four when hydrated in hot water.

You may experience a slight reduction in utilization even when the hops are not restricted in the bag. This falls into the &#8220;so-what&#8221; category of things. It&#8217;s well known that pellet hops have a higher utilization than whole hops (extracts have even higher utilization). This fact is recognized by brewers who use whole hops, but utilization is not always the most important factor to consider when addressing the topic of hopping. As long as you produce a beer that meets your standard of quality and understand the pros and cons of your chosen method, you are doing just fine in my book. By the way, a slight reduction in hop utilization is not going to break the bank!
 
You can do it either way. Personally I don't much care for the hop bags and I just add them, stir real well and strain at the end.
 
Blender said:
You can do it either way. Personally I don't much care for the hop bags and I just add them, stir real well and strain at the end.
This is what i do also but i have never used a hop bag so i couldnt really say.
 
So in not using a bag, I just need to strain the wort into the primary after I cool it?
 
z987k said:
So in not using a bag, I just need to strain the wort into the primary after I cool it?
You don't really have to strain it but if you can get some of the hops/trub strained then all the better when siphoning off to the clearing secondary.
 
Well I went ahead and just dumped them in. And strained them with the slotted spoon I was using for stirring when I put it in the primary.

On another note, I came up with a nice wort chiller since we seem to have this abundance of cold white stuff all around.

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I use a huge grainbag cinched up and tied to the side of the boil kettle. The hops get to bang around in the boil, but easy cleanup. It's the best of both worlds!
 
Blender said:
You can do it either way. Personally I don't much care for the hop bags and I just add them, stir real well and strain at the end.

this is what i do as well.....
 
Well it's all done, the snow cooled the wort to about 80F in around a 1/2 an hour and my OG was 1.052, directions don't mention what it should be so I hops thats ok.
 

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