Hoppy Wheat overnight mash BIAB

[lazarwolf]

That would explain your yeast rafts. You got great extraction and pulled extra protein. Nbd should all settle out.

 

[Psylocide]

That would explain your yeast rafts. You got great extraction and pulled extra protein. Nbd should all settle out.

Yeah, wasn't worried about it... just an observation. Seems like quite a bit did drop out overnight though. Got my temp back up to 64°… smooth sailing.

 

[Psylocide]

I haven't brewed with that much wheat before but I think rice hulls would be a god idea.

No, **** you spamming ****.

 

[RM-MN]

I haven't brewed with that much wheat before but I think rice hulls would be a god idea.

That's the beauty of BIAB. With the mash contained in bag, that entire bag becomes the filter bed and no rice hulls are necessary. If the wort doesn't want to drain out on its own, you squeeze the bag until it does.

 

[Psylocide]

That's the beauty of BIAB. With the mash contained in bag, that entire bag becomes the filter bed and no rice hulls are necessary. If the wort doesn't want to drain out on its own, you squeeze the bag until it does.

Thanks for the response, but that's a spammer... this dude originally posted it, typo and all.

I haven't brewed with that much wheat before but I think rice hulls would be a god idea.

He/she/it's been reported.

No rice hulls were harmed in the making of this brew.

 

[lazarwolf]

man, this is gonna be an epic wheat... that looks awesome. single fermentation or are you breaking it up?

 

[Psylocide]

man, this is gonna be an epic wheat... that looks awesome. single fermentation or are you breaking it up?

Yeah I hope it turns out somewhat like I'm expecting.

I'll just be doing primary on this... I'll dry hop, cold crash and keg.

 

[lazarwolf]

So a hoppy wheat beer. Cool. 80 acre by Boulevard is one of my favorites.

 

[Psylocide]

So a hoppy wheat beer. Cool. 80 acre by Boulevard is one of my favorites.

That's the plan... I've never really been a huge fan of wheat beers myself, but I do enjoy some farmhouse ales and the like.

However, I love Lagunitas Lil' Sumpin' Sumpin', and this recipe is loosely inspired by that.

This is a beer for a friend's party in June, but this is my first shot at it. I'll tweak it some and brew it again depending on how it turns out. Or, I'll just brew it as is if it turns out great.

Really going for the big fruity/slightly piney flavor/aroma on this, but beings that I did almost no hop flavoring additions in the boil, I'm relying on a big punch from the aroma to add some perceived flavor.

This is the first experimental batch that I'm feeling really confident about, so we'll see.

 

[lazarwolf]

You can adjust bitterness anytime before kegging or bottling. if it is out of balance just make a hop tea. Woodlandbrew has some great articles on this topic. Unless one of my batches is infected, or just terrible. I always try to save them with adjustments. Hop tea, grain tea, etc. I've even taken a less than stellar batch and added a 2ndary sour fermentation to it, and created an award winner.... Never let a batch go down in flames! Thats my philosophy.

 

[Psylocide]

You can adjust bitterness anytime before kegging or bottling. if it is out of balance just make a hop tea. Woodlandbrew has some great articles on this topic. Unless one of my batches is infected, or just terrible. I always try to save them with adjustments. Hop tea, grain tea, etc. I've even taken a less than stellar batch and added a 2ndary sour fermentation to it, and created an award winner.... Never let a batch go down in flames! Thats my philosophy.

Well, I'm not in the least bit worried that it won't be drinkable or good for that matter.

This is just the base and I'll tweak until I get it where I want it to be flavor-wise, mainly just playing with the hops.

 

[Psylocide]

Well... I just couldn't help myself, patience has never been my strong suit, so I went ahead and took a gravity reading this morning, which would make it about 8 days from pitching.

Let's take a look.





What the what? Lol... 1.009, thanks Notty.

Will put this brew around 6.7%. Not bad for missing my target OG by a few points. And, the taste, oh man. All grain baby... I am not looking back.

Dry hop today, cold crash later in the week, keg sometime next week.

I suspect this is the last FG reading I will take prior to packaging (on most beers), but really, just could not leave it alone. So, there we have it.

 

[RM-MN]

Give Notty a few more days to finish up. It looks like you have a lot of yeast suspended yet so your FG may still go lower.

 

[Psylocide]

Give Notty a few more days to finish up. It looks like you have a lot of yeast suspended yet so your FG may still go lower.

I think it probably won't based on my previous experience with notty... there are still quite a bit of yeast rafts floating on the surface and I probably picked some up when I took my sample.

Wouldn't a wheat be somewhat hazy anyhow?

Either way, it's still going to sit for a few days.

 

[TheCADJockey]

And, the taste, oh man. All grain baby... I am not looking back.

It tasted like grain?

I've never had a beer come out that light in color, god I hate using extract. That looks glorious.

 

[Psylocide]

It tasted like grain?

I've never had a beer come out that light in color, god I hate using extract. That looks glorious.

Ha... syntax error on my part.

Tastes like a flat, warm, wheat beer. Not far off from a (very slightly) more hoppy Boulevard Wheat-type flavor at this point. I can't wait to get the dry hops in there and punch it up a bit.

My extract brews @ a week out would always taste much different, they were not as clean, a tad more cloying and had a little bite/twang to it.

However, in regards to color, I did really well with extract color by adding 75% of the DME at flameout. My blonde came out pretty light.

Hope you get some good weather for brewing soon, looks like a mess out that way.

 

[TheCADJockey]

Did you just drop those hops in the carboy last night or did you use a bag? Just curious. I was considering dry hopping the one I made last night with my whole leaf nugget but it concerns me, being whole leaf.

 

[Psylocide]

Did you just drop those hops in the carboy last night or did you use a bag? Just curious. I was considering dry hopping the one I made last night with my whole leaf nugget but it concerns me, being whole leaf.

I mainly use pellets for dry hopping just for the ease of it. I don't use a bag because, imo, you're just begging for an infection... but I know plenty of people do it.

If it were me, I'd just toss them right in there without a bag. Whole leaf hops do take up a lot more space, but might be easier to rack around... I usually have to cold crash for a few days to drop all the pellet particles out of suspension.

Definitely isn't the prettiest looking process when you're using pellets though. Smells amazing anyway.

.5 oz Simcoe, 1 oz Citra, 1 oz Mosaic

 

[TheCADJockey]

I dry hopped the one IPA I made, did it in secondary with pellets. It turned out nice, but used citra so all the non hop lovers that tried it loved it. It's not so much the space that worries me with the whole leaf, but infection. I don't care when I use them in boil obviously, but I have so many. Would like to see how they contribute as dry hopped. Might just do it... although if it ruined this one I'd lose my mind.

That looks so dark compared to your samples! Maybe it's just the picture. Then again, my sample last night looked like Coors light, looked like Killians in carboy this morning.

 

[Psylocide]

I dry hopped the one IPA I made, did it in secondary with pellets. It turned out nice, but used citra so all the non hop lovers that tried it loved it. It's not so much the space that worries me with the whole leaf, but infection. I don't care when I use them in boil obviously, but I have so many. Would like to see how they contribute as dry hopped. Might just do it... although if it ruined this one I'd lose my mind.

That looks so dark compared to your samples! Maybe it's just the picture. Then again, my sample last night looked like Coors light, looked like Killians in carboy this morning.

Not really sure what to tell you about infection from leaf hops. Never used them for dry hopping, but a lot of people do. If you're worried about it, maybe post up in the Ask Me Anything thread or something. I usually get some traction there if I don't want to start a thread.

Otherwise, just go grab a few pellet pkgs for a couple bucks. I know you want to use yours, but if provides peace of mind, then it might be worth it. I agree, having an infected batch after waiting so long and the last one turning out "meh," I would be a little frustrated.

As for the color, 5.5 gals in a large vessel vs. a few oz in a small vessel definitely changes that. The lighting in my brewing area is ****ed anyway.

I just want to drink it now.

 

[TheCADJockey]

5 days dry hopped right? How long will you bottle it for or are you going to keg it? I washed up and stored my keg away for a bit last night. I want to try to get a little pipeline started and that just wasn't happening with the keg. Got in on a group buy here in Buffalo so I'm picking up 50 lbs of 2-row this weekend. **** just got real!

 

[Psylocide]

5 days dry hopped right? How long will you bottle it for or are you going to keg it? I washed up and stored my keg away for a bit last night. I want to try to get a little pipeline started and that just wasn't happening with the keg. Got in on a group buy here in Buffalo so I'm picking up 50 lbs of 2-row this weekend. **** just got real!

5 days, give or take. Some of those days may spill into cold crash time, I don't know yet. I just roll with it. If I get a wild hair, I may try to keg Sunday. If the aroma isn't to my liking, I'll just dry hop some in the keg. Otherwise, I'll keg it sometime next week.

I bottled and my 'pipeline' is no more... hopefully kegging doesn't exacerbate that.

I've found out that I will need to brew once every two weeks to keep myself swimming in HB. I am going to try another method that may save even more time than this method next and a journal will follow.

 

[TheCADJockey]

Oh yeah? Man when I've had bottles, I would take maybe 4-6 over to my friends place once a week and share to supplement our mix of craft/coors/yuengling in the fridge. I never drank many at home for some reason, but when I had the keg... every time I walk by that damn thing I wanted to try it.

The biggest time killer for me is the kitchen stove. It takes it 45-60 minutes to boil 3.5 gallons of water. This is a huge turn off for me, limiting when I can or want to brew. The propane burner and new gear should help that but again, not until the weather breaks. Other than that, I need to find a better way to clean bottles. It is the only other set back. My wife helps but it is such a huge pain in the ass having a small sink and little room to put so many. Oh well.

Can't wait to hear how your recipe turns out, I used to love wheats before I got obsessed with hops. Sounds like a nice pair.

 

[Psylocide]

Oh yeah? Man when I've had bottles, I would take maybe 4-6 over to my friends place once a week and share to supplement our mix of craft/coors/yuengling in the fridge. I never drank many at home for some reason, but when I had the keg... every time I walk by that damn thing I wanted to try it.

The biggest time killer for me is the kitchen stove. It takes it 45-60 minutes to boil 3.5 gallons of water. This is a huge turn off for me, limiting when I can or want to brew. The propane burner and new gear should help that but again, not until the weather breaks. Other than that, I need to find a better way to clean bottles. It is the only other set back. My wife helps but it is such a huge pain in the ass having a small sink and little room to put so many. Oh well.

Can't wait to hear how your recipe turns out, I used to love wheats before I got obsessed with hops. Sounds like a nice pair.

I clean bottles by dumping a bit of oxy free in with a little hot water, swirl it a few times, soak the bottles in the bathtub for ~10 minutes, then hit the labels with steel wool and they come right off. You only have to do that once, then you can just rinse them out good when you empty a full one, and should be good enough.

Why not do a few quick 2.5 gal batches while the weather sucks?

Also, can you get Lagunitas where you are? Their Lil Sumpin' Sumpin' is what inspired this brew. It's... amazing. Of course, they filter it, so it doesn't look like a wheat at all. Doesn't taste like one either.

 

[stpug]

FWIW, about 80% of the hops I use are leaf and am usually dry hopping with leaf. In fact, I'm generally in the other camp of "I hope dry hopping with pellets in the keg works out okay" (because of particulate matter)

BTW, the beer is looking good psylocide. Can't wait to get your tasting notes after dry hopping and carbonation.

 

[TheCADJockey]

Also, can you get Lagunitas where you are? Their Lil Sumpin' Sumpin' is what inspired this brew. It's... amazing. Of course, they filter it, so it doesn't look like a wheat at all. Doesn't taste like one either.

Yeah we have their stuff, I just haven't looked for anything in particular. I grabbed a bottle of theirs for first time a few weeks ago, I think it was the cappuccino stout since I'm trying to get myself to enjoy some other styles. It was a little sweet. I'll have to look for the Sumpin', people seem to mention it a lot. That will be my Friday adventure at the beer store then.

 

[Psylocide]

Cold crash, Engage.

Smells like Blueberries, Tropical fruit, maybe some mango?, fresh cut grass (very faint), and mildly citrus and floral hints with just a dash of pine in there. Awesome.

 

[Psylocide]

Kegged this yesterday... first time kegging, so last night I didn't get much sleep. Kept thinking I'd wake up this morning to an empty tank or beer everywhere or something.

It seems to be going fine, I've got it at 30 psi and I'll drop it down within the next day or so.

I got no pictures because I'm a huge noob apparently, so sample tasting notes will have to suffice.

Sample color was a hazy 6-8 SRM, looked pretty standard for a flat wheat pale.

Aroma is tropical fruit/citrus/blueberry/fresh grass - the Mosaic and Citra are right up front, the Simcoe may have gotten a little muddled, but I can detect a slight pine aroma there.

It did finish at 1.009, which was well below my estimate, but it didn't negatively affect the beer from what I can tell at this point.

Nice light body, the malt comes through ever so slightly but the flavor of the hops is balanced very nicely with the bitterness. It would seem that my experiment with aromas imparting a perceived flavor has been somewhat successful, as I had no hop additions from 30 mins until Flameout. The flavor did take on the very flavors that were used for dry-hopping and I am really impressed with the amount of flavor or "perceived" flavor those imparted when you take a drink.

Can't wait til it carbs/conditions for some time here, but this is by far the best tasting sample I've ever had out of the fermenter. I hope that is a sign of things to come for this particular brew.

 

[Psylocide]

Iteration 1 (overnight mash w/notty), it doesn't look like it, but I can fit 2 more kegs in this fridge:






Iteration 2 (30 min mash w/US-05):

 

[TheCADJockey]

I'm interested in seeing how the different yeasts will affect it too. US05 is my girl.