Hop Hash vs Hop Pellets Experiment

[Shawn0522]

So I am hoping to post alot more feedback but thought i would give an update on the initial findings. Honestly it is crazy how similiar these two beers are. I have served this beer to 5 people. Some claim to immeditletly be able to pick a favorite for whatever reason but then I do a triangle test and not 1 person has been able to reliably pick the the odd beer out. I am planning on taking these beers to a local home brew club meeting next weekend for more feed back. I was really hopping for a big difference but it just not there. I have done a triangle test 3 times and failed all three times.

 

[jerbrew]

That's interesting that hear. I wonder if it would be a different story if you used them in the boil rather that at FO and DH. Waiting to hear back from the other folks I guess. Still have 4oz in the freezer.

 

[Shawn0522]

so I just picked up 5 ounces of Idaho 7 Hop Hash from the brew shop today. Never had the hop and excited about it being in Hash form. So much hash so little time!!!

Anyone got any ideas for next batch?

 

[ParadiseBeer]

shawn, can you give us an update on your experiments with the hop hash? did you use the Idaho 7 yet? if you were to brew the citra batch again would you still use that much in at flameout and dryhop? thanks

 

[Shawn0522]

shawn, can you give us an update on your experiments with the hop hash? did you use the Idaho 7 yet? if you were to brew the citra batch again would you still use that much in at flameout and dryhop? thanks

Sorry double post

 

[Shawn0522]

shawn, can you give us an update on your experiments with the hop hash? did you use the Idaho 7 yet? if you were to brew the citra batch again would you still use that much in at flameout and dryhop? thanks

The experiment with the Citra hop hash and pellets was very interesting. Only 1 person could reliably tell the beers apart and he admitted they were close (with out know wich was wich he prefered the pellets). This could easily be attributed to highly untrained pallets. Your timing on the Idaho 7 is impecable. The beer i brewed with the Idaho 7 was just ready tonight. I again figured hop hash as being twice as stong as regular pellets. While I dont love the beer and I have never used Idaho 7 before i still think that figuring hop hash as twice as strong as pellets is about right. Maybe this is because of the diminishing returns of the amount of hops at a certain point. I still have some citra hash bit havent figured out what to do with it yet. I hope others continue to post feedback as they try hash.

 

[Sbe2]

10 gallon batch

Mashed at 152

20 lbs Maris Otter
3 lbs Crystal 60
2 lbs Carapils
1 lb Dextrose at 15 min

I'm not gonna sugar coat it for you guys, we went to far with it. We just went stupid with the hash and oil. I split the batch with my roommate I brew with, and between the two of us we got over zealous. We were packaging a 100 gram can of hop oil in 5 ml syringes, and when we ran out of syringes we just threw the rest of the hop oil in the boil. We have no idea how much, but it was a **** load. The consensus was that it was probably 14 to 21 grams. That being said:

75 minute boil

5 ml of oil and an ounce of hash thrown in at 75 minutes.
(This is where we may have had a few drinks)
14-21 grams of oil at 30 minutes.
3 ounces of hash at 1 minute.

The smell was amazing. The oil has a definite pine and spiciness to it. The hash is super pungent with a lot of citrus. There was some leftover residue on the side of the boil kettle from the dumb amount of oil we used, but other than that there was literally no hop debris save a few random leafs in the hash. A whirlpool, and swift cold crash left nothing but pure wort in the fermenter. That's a big plus in my opinion. Planning to "dry hash" with some other stupid amount, and see if it tastes awesome. It will probably wind up being a skin irritant because of the IBU's. We had a different recipe completely planned, but life throws curveballs sometimes. Who cares, right?

How did this turn out?

 

[phishumdead]

This beer turned out great! We were scared it was going to be too bitter, but it was a juicy delight. It made grown men pee their pants and weep.

 

[Wholeycider]

I brewed an extract IPA last summer using hop hash that went well;

6 lbs. mallard malt gold
3 lbs pilsner DME
.5 oz Chinook hop hash (60 minutes)
2 oz Simcoe whole cone hops at flame out
2 oz Amarillo whole cone hops at flame out
US-05 yeast

The hop hash has about double the IBUs of regular pellet hops; so I figured I could use about half as much and get the same IBUs. I've used it in place of chinook pellet hops at 30 minutes in other recipes I've made, and have noticed it does taste slightly dirtier.
The late hop additions at the flame out in the recipe above give it a fruity aroma and taste that has a bit of earthyness to it that balances well with a piney finish. I'm about to brew it again except this time all grain.