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Homebrew hangovers worse than with BMC?

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veggiess said:
But, you probably know all this and are just trolling, in which case I just encouraged you... ah, well. That's the way it goes.

:mad:

4 months later, I doubt he cares much..... :drunk:
 
Bump^^ yeast live in yer guts as a part of yer natural flora and they got there from eating fruit, breast feeding and drinking beer. Rheumatologist do a test for saccromyiesies cerevisiea in yer blood. no ****.
 
I was talking with a friend that has a 60-barrel brewery and we were talking about hops, and how hops can contribute to headache. He was making a DIPA and looking to his hops supplier for recommendations and the supplier told him not to use Chinook for a bittering hop as it has a tendency to give people headaches, interesting.

The neighbor gets red faced and sick from hops, even one sip of beer or a piece of a hop pellet.
 
Walker-san said:
A few comments/questions:

(1) what temp do you ferment your beer at? if it's too high, you are going to create fusel alcohols (longer chains), and these will lead to hangovers.

(2) I'm betting that your homebrew is much higher in alcohol than commercial beer.

(3) the runs are caused by the yeast in the homebrew. yeast is a natural laxative.

(4) if you are drinking 3L of homebrew, that's about 9 (12oz) bottles of beer. Add in the fact that HB is probably higher in alcohol than commercial, and you're getting up toward consuming the same amount of alcohol that would be found in a half case of commercial beer. Why you have a hangover? Because that's a lot of alcohol! :)

(5) if your HB is higher in alcohol than commercial, then you are literally consuming a higher water-to-alcohol ratio when you drink commercial. This would lessening the effects of the hangover.

(6) the comment about light-colored beers vs dark-colored beers causing different hangover intensities is weird. The color shouldn't make any difference at all, unless you are allergic to roasted barley or something. It is possible that your light-colored beers are also lower in alcohol content than the dark beers? That's the only thing that makes sense to me.

-walker

I agree and would like to add that steam beers and some poorly pitched home brews have fussel alch. in them. They also contribute to hangovers.

I got a nasty one the other day from bells oberwan and the one before that was Anchor steam. Both of those hurt bad!!!
 
I'm still a noob, (so maybe that explains it) but I never feel right depleting my stash of quality homebrew to get a strong buzz going. Don't drink enough of it to get a hangover. That's what commerical, store bought beer is for.
 
Logbuyercab said:
I was talking with a friend that has a 60-barrel brewery and we were talking about hops, and how hops can contribute to headache. He was making a DIPA and looking to his hops supplier for recommendations and the supplier told him not to use Chinook for a bittering hop as it has a tendency to give people headaches, interesting.

Interesting. I know that I get to feeling a wee bit nastier if I have IPA's all night compared to a porter etc. But, I still luv them IPA's so that's why we have aspirin.
 
I submit that those only brewing their own high quality beers are doing half a job.

buy 10 lbs of 2 row, 1/2 lb of cara pils, some cheap hops (or use what you have left over) and reuse some yeast. This = 5 gallons of quality drunkeness for like 15 bucks. no way can you buy the same volume of commercial beer for that.

then spend 30 bucks for top of the line, high quality specialty brew ingredients, and savor the outcome of those (sipping beer).

Since we have invested in all the tools and knowledge to make beer, why not put them to use??? 15 bucks divided by 50 bottles is what, like 30 cents a bottle for the liquid? no way you can buy it for that commercially.

I'm half loaded on the 1 high end fantastic munich dunkel and the 2 "cheapo American Ales" I' ve just consumed, so everyone's opinion that differs from mine SUCKS!

LOL just kidding.

to each his own...
 
Logbuyercab said:
... the supplier told him not to use Chinook for a bittering hop as it has a tendency to give people headaches, interesting. ...

Man, that stinks... i just used a bunch of Chinook to bitter my everyday pilsener swill with... poop. :(

Since I am going to drink it anyway I'll report back on the headache factor.
 
I think the buzz from HB is slightly different then MBC. I can't explain why. It just feels different, better for that matter.

I generally drink my HB in quarts. On my 40th Birthday I drank 7 quarts from 6PM to about midnight. I was really tanked. The next day I felt out of it for most of the day. If i had drank two more I be geared up to party or ready to pass out. I was just feeling pretty tired. No headache.

Many times on Saturday after a days worth of hard work. I'll down a quart and then sand man hits me... an hour later when I wake up I feel like I've been a sleep for 8 hrs. I'm usually groggy until I eat something. I never get a splitting headache as I do from BMC. When I do, I'm usually out at a bar sucking in cigarette smoke or somebody elses smoke. I think that's the major reason for the headache. You take in a lot of carbon monoxide.

Process wise.... Charlie Papazian's book "The Complete Joy of Home Brewing" He talks about the benefits of using a 5 gallon carboy as a primary. He recommends attaching a blow-off so the fusel resins in the foam get blown off. He says you loose some HB but its worth it for the best HB you've ever tasted. The fusel resins are the culprits for headaches (like fusel alcohol). He said the amount is very low so if you don't do it, its no big deal. This is similar to old open method of open primaries and skimming off the foam. He talks about the risk of contamination saying its not worth the risk. I do neither!!!!

Walker is right. The temp is the first thing to fix nothing higher than 73' with ale yeast. This is the primary reason for bad headaches. Too much fusel alcohol is created.

I follow this temp requirement without fail. Maybe too conservatively, but that's me!!! ;)
 
The neighbor gets red faced and sick from hops, even one sip of beer or a piece of a hop pellet.
Sounds to me like an allergy.. I have never noticed a headache from using Chinook.. but then I never get headaches unless drinking hard stuff...

The headache is caused by dehydration in the brain.. So drinking water between beers will reduce or eliminate them..
Drinking unregulated **** overseas The corpsman would pop a saline IV in your arm... amazing what a pint of water directly in the vein does for a hangover.
 
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