help with this recipe...

[grassfeeder]

I've got a can of this in the fridge but want to brew it as well to see how close I can come. I don't have any experience or care to use Hop Extract (if I don't have to). Is there something you think I can substitute in?

Also, doesn't 4 packs of Cali 001 sound over the top for a 5 gallon batch??

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All Grain Recipe
Submitted By: ModernTimes (Shared)
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Batch Size: 5.00 gal Style: American IPA (14B)
Boil Size: 7.74 gal Style Guide: BJCP 2008
Color: 5.1 SRM Equipment: Modern Times Pilot System
Bitterness: 70.0 IBUs Boil Time: 60 min

Est OG: 1.069 (16.6° P) Mash Profile: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Est FG: 1.012 SG (3.2° P) Fermentation: Ale, Two Stage
ABV: 7.4% Taste Rating: 30.0

Ingredients
Amount Name Type #
8 lbs 4.00 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1
2 lbs 12.00 oz White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 2
1 lbs 12.00 oz Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 3
5.28 oz Caravienne Malt (22.0 SRM) Grain 4
2.08 oz Acid Malt (3.0 SRM) Grain 5
0.50 oz Bravo [15.5%] - Boil 60 min Hops 6
0.30 oz Hop Extract [50.0%] - Boil 60 min Hops 7
0.25 oz Motueka [7.0%] - Boil 1 min Hops 8
0.50 oz Mosaic [11.5%] - Steep 5 min Hops 9
0.50 oz Simcoe [13.0%] - Steep 1 min Hops 10
4 pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) Yeast 11
1.00 oz Mosaic [11.5%] - Dry Hop 7 days Hops 12
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.0%] - Dry Hop 7 days Hops 13
0.75 oz Motueka [7.0%] - Dry Hop 7 days Hops 14

 

[messiah]

Yeah, it is over kill. I would argue that you don't even need a starter and could use 1 vial, but I would recommend a starter.

I have no idea what hop extract is. Hop oil?

 

[BigMack]

For the Hop Extract just use a clean bittering hop to the same IBU's added. And yes, 4 packages of WLP 001 is absurd for a 5 gallon batch at 1.070. If you can't make a starter maybe do 2. But not 4.

 

[brandonnys]

We have this stuff at a local brew store: Hop ****

 

[messiah]

WTF? Who made the business decision to name it that?

 

[brandonnys]

You got me. The name alone is reason for me to just look at it and laugh. I've never used it, but I imagine there are other similar products available.