Help w/ IPA Hop Schedual

[rodwha]

2 oz of Simcoe 12.2%
2 oz Fuggles 4%
1 oz Styrian 3.8%
3 muslin bags

I have been considering:
2 oz Simcoe @ 60 mins
1 oz Fuggles, 1/2 oz Styrian @ 15 mins
1 oz Fuggles, 1/2 oz Styrian @ 5 mins
That's 82.8 IBU's w/ 4 gals of wort in 5 gal batch. I like bitter, but that seems like it's a bit high.

I wasn't intending on doing a dry hopping as I've been skeered of contamination. Is it that big of a deal (loss of hop taste) if 5 gals won't last a month?

 

[helibrewer]

Don't worry about dry hopping, contamination is not really an issue with it.
What stle IPA are you after? You are in the Imperial IPA range with those IBU numbers.

Does your grain bill support a big IPA?

 

[rodwha]

Briess 5 1/2 lbs amber LME
4 lbs golden light LME
OG is 1.065
Wyeast Leuven Pale Ale Yeast

 

[rodwha]

The initial recipe had 4 lbs of amber LME and no Simcoe, which isn't in the IPA range at all.
I told the brew guy that I like most of the dozen IPA's I've tried with Ranger being the most bought, but Hop Czar probably being my favorite so far.
I'm not after anything in particular, but prefer it not to taste like donkey butt.
The only one I didn't like was Elissa and Bridgeport's IPA is a bit boring.
Is dry hopping all that important if you won't keep a 5 gal batch around for more than a month? Been skeered of messing with it beyond what I must.

 

[Jwood]

simcoe is a mighty fine, hard to obtain right now flavor/aroma hop, i personally wouldn't waste it as bittering.

Also, fuggles isn't that great of a showcase hop in my opinion. If you are looking for that kind of earthy/spicy character, i would use willamette. In my opinion its a bit more appealing.

As for dry hopping, i wouldn't be worried about contamination. I have yet to hear of a contamination from dry hopping.

Again, these are just personal opinions. I don't know, you could love the flavor of fuggles. What kind of flavor are you going for with this brew?

 

[rodwha]

No particular flavor as long as it's IPAish.

 

[rodwha]

Hop Czar, Ranger, Stone's IPA, Full Sail, Inversion, and Extra Torpedo were all good. I know ther are a few more I'm missing.
Elissa I didn't care much for and Bridgeport's IPA was a bit boring.

 

[Jwood]

ok, you said you like ranger a lot. They use Chinook, Simcoe, Cascade for that brew. Maybe start there?

Chinook for bittering, and slam it with simcoe and cascade for flavor/aroma.

Chinook-60 min.
Simcoe-15 min.
Cascade-10min
Simcoe/Cascade-5 minutes

Make these additions add to about 70-75 IBU. I would emphasize the 15-10-5 additions as much as you can to really get that hop flavor/aroma.

Simcoe/Cascade-dry hop 7 days (1-2 oz total)


I would start with that and see where it takes you. I'm not an extract brewer so i have no idea on what your malt bill will turn out like, but ranger uses just pale malt and c-120 (and it isnt much c-120 from the looks of it) to an OG of about 1.058

 

[rodwha]

Changing the hops isn't an option this go around.
Were I to try to make something I'd probably shoot for Hop Czar or a mellowed version of Extra Torpedo (reminds me of the mountains in CO).

 

[daveooph131]

I agree simco is mighty fine and should be use for flavor / aroma. I would do something like this assuming these are the only hops you have to work with.

Fuggle at 60min (enough for about 45ibu If possible)

Simco 1 oz at 20 (should be good flavor from this)

Simco .5 oz at ten and .5 at 5

Should get you a decent IPA. I would prefer to have more citrus profile hops to mix with simco so source those If you can. Amarillo pairs great with simco.

Also as far as dry hopping hops have antibacterial properties...ie you can't infect your beer dry hopping unless you totally neglect to sanitize whatever you put the hops in.

 

[rodwha]

Does the Styrian come in as citrusy enough? I have an oz of that too...

 

[rodwha]

DBL post....Ooops

 

[daveooph131]

No styrian is not a citrusy hop at all. There are two breeds of styrian as well. One with an alpha acid near 7% and another at like 2%. Between the fuggle and styrian use which ever has the higher alpha acid at 60 min as your bittering hop.

Overall aim for about 65-70 ibu with about 40 to 45 coming from your 60 min addition.

 

[daveooph131]

Actually just saw the alpha acid in the original post. You may need to use Both styrian and fuggle at 60 to get the needed ibu

 

[rodwha]

Styrian Golding 3.8%
Should I use it for bittering as well?
What about for aroma?

 

[rodwha]

Fuggles and Styrian for bitters
1 1/2 oz Simcoe for flavor and 1/2 oz for aroma?
62.6 IBU's

 

[rodwha]

When calculating wort (IBUs) volume is that the water plus LME?
I'm calculating 4 gals for 5 gal batch figuring roughly 3 gals of water and 1 gal of LME

 

[daveooph131]

Go to tastybrew.com and plug in your recipe in the recipe calculator and it will give you all the data.

I wouldn't use fuggle or styrian for aroma or flavor they are more earthy. Personally not what I want in an ipa.

I really think an ounce of simco at 20 .5 at 10 and .5 at 5 will get you good flavor and aroma.