Double IPA Heavenscent IIPA

[D_Ranged_Eskimo]

Just popped the lid off of the bucket to take an gravity reading and it's sitting at 1.020 after a week of it fermenting and it smells amazing and tastes even better. The hops are prominent but are very smooth to the finish, and the color is a nice golden amber. So far it's looking great.

 

[scrambledegg81]

Epiiiic. :rockin:

Still tinkering with a possible updated version. Trying to get rid of the corn sugar all together in favor of stuff that actually provides flavor!

1.5lb Caramel 40L (bumped up from 20L--this puts the color right along with BJCP guidelines whereas before it was slightly below)
1.5lb US 2-row
9lb Pilsen Light LME

I bumped up the second Chinook addition to 40 minutes instead of 30; everything else stays as is. This version (according to Beer Alchemy) puts out 0.5% more ABV, so a final 8.5% with the extra 10 minutes of Chinook to (hopefully) cover any extra alcohol warmth. Also considering trying WLP090, but we'll wait & see on that.

Hoping to get this one up & bubbling soon...will post how it turns out!

 

[D_Ranged_Eskimo]

I'm interested in seeing what happens when you bump up the grain bill and drop out the corn sugar. After this is bottled, would you be interested in trading a couple of bottles? I'd like to see the differences in using your hop and grill bill to the Ahtanum and Warrior hops I had to use for late addition boil and will have to use for dry hopping.

 

[scrambledegg81]

Will let you know, but FYI I just had to drop $1400 on car repairs today, so it might be a while before I brew this one up...grr.

 

[D_Ranged_Eskimo]

That sucks, and I know the feeling, I finally got rid of my rolling bucket of bolts just last week. Just keep me posted and good luck. I'll be brewing an Imperial Nut Brown for trail number two of extract brewing this weekend while working on setting up the secondary frige as a cooling fermentation unit. If all goes well, a WPA is on deck for round 3 and all will be up for trading!

 

[D_Ranged_Eskimo]

Well, it's holding strong at 1.020 after 2 weeks. We just racked it over to a secondary for dry hopping, but the hydrometer sample was extremely sweet. Is there anything other than bottle conditioning that we can do to drop the gravity to get rid of some of the sweetness?

 

[scrambledegg81]

It's pretty close to what my first batch did as well (think it was .017-ish?), but yes, bottle conditioning did mellow it out quite a bit.

 

[D_Ranged_Eskimo]

Thanks for the help. I'm going to bottle it this weekend so we will find out if the sweetness has mellowed out a bit more before its sealed up for 3 weeks.

 

[scrambledegg81]

No worries! I'll post the final re-work when I figure it out, but I considered the fact that an IIPA should have more hop presence, so while messing with the recipe, I boosted the Chinook by 1oz. per addition...turned out close to 100 IBU's. Seriously tempted to try it...O_O

 

[D_Ranged_Eskimo]

Just do it! It sounds on par with the bitterness of Hop Stoopid or Small Batch 471!

I just bottled mine last night and the FG was at 1.018. The sweetness had faded away, and I dry hopped for 9 days. It wasn't overly in your face hoppy, but it was smooth for just being a hydrometer sample. 3 more weeks and it should be ready to drink!

 

[D_Ranged_Eskimo]

I opened the first bottle of this on Friday after just a week of carbing in the bottle and 3 days in the frige and wow! It already had great carbonation to it as well as a great aroma, but I pulled a rookie mistake while brewing and squeezed the grain bag, so now it tastes like the grains at the end of a drink, otherwise tastes great. I hope these flavors will mellow out with some time, but I want to brew this again correctly.

 

[scrambledegg81]

Epiiiiic! :rockin:

Glad to see my first recipe getting some good response! Currently in a holding pattern on getting Version 2.0 going (full-time school/work, etc.), but the numbers look good on Beer Alchemy...

 

[D_Ranged_Eskimo]

Gotta say the Warrior and Ahtanum hops worked well as replacements for the aroma/dry hopping additions. The aroma is amazing, and if age will mellow those damn tannons due to the rookie mistake, this should be solid. Keep me posted on Version 2.0, because this will be brewed again, and it will be done with the Warrior Ahtanum combo due to how good those worked out.

 

[scrambledegg81]

Just caught up with this, and at this rate, I might swap in the Warrior/Ahtanum in addition to the original hop schedule...time to fire up Beer Alchemy again...!!

 

[D_Ranged_Eskimo]

Yeah, I was messing around with this on Beersmith and I think I might try something a little heavier on the hops and upped on the alcohol for winter. The warrior/ahtanum gives a great aroma, and hopefully after a month of aging, that damn grain taste from squeezing the back will have subsided more.

 

[scrambledegg81]

Here's what I've worked out so far--reduced it to 91 IBU's, so it's still got some potent hoppy-ness without being overpowering:

US Chinook 13.0 % 1.00 oz 28.3 Bagged Pellet Hops 60 Min From End

US Warrior 15.5 % 1.00 oz 30.9 Bagged Pellet Hops 60 Min From End

US Ahtanum 6.0 % 1.00 oz 10.0 Bagged Pellet Hops 30 Min From End

US Simcoe 12.0 % 0.50 oz 7.9 Bagged Pellet Hops 20 Min From End

US Amarillo 8.5 % 0.50 oz 4.6 Bagged Pellet Hops 15 Min From End

US Simcoe 12.0 % 0.50 oz 4.7 Bagged Pellet Hops 10 Min From End

US Ahtanum 6.0 % 0.50 oz 1.3 Bagged Pellet Hops 5 Min From End

US Amarillo 8.5 % 1.00 oz 0.0 Bagged Pellet Hops Dry-Hopped

US Simcoe 12.0 % 1.00 oz 0.0 Bagged Pellet Hops Dry-Hopped

Can't wait for LHBS to get some Simcoe in so I can get this one going! :rockin:

 

[scrambledegg81]

SO!

A boatload of tweaks later, here's what I finally came up with. Basically turns into a 60-minute IIPA using 4 different hop varieties!

OG: 1.083
FG: 1.018
ABV: 8.7% (yarr!)
IBU: 96.0

60 minute boil, grains soaked for 30 minutes @ 155F:

Crystal 40L--1.5 lb.
US 2-row--1.5 lb.
Pilsen Extract--9 lb.

Warrior (15.5%)--2 oz. @ 60 min.
Simcoe (12%)--1/2 oz. @ 20 min.
Ahtanum (5.2%)--1 oz. @ 15 min.
Amarillo (8.5%)--1/2 oz. @ 15 min.
Simcoe--1/2 oz. @ 10 min.
Ahtanum--1/2 oz. @ 5 min.

Give it 2 weeks at 65-70F in primary at this point, inoculating with WLP001 & a good yeast nutrient. It's up to personal preference to use 2 vials or just a huge starter...also debating whether or not to try WL's San Diego Super strain.

At 2 weeks:
1 oz. each Amarillo & Simcoe for 7 days, keeping it on primary (again, personal preference, but I have never used a secondary). Bottle/keg normally, age for 2+ weeks.

Will be waiting till the new year to start this one (gotta get the Xmas brew figured out!), but this is gonna be interesting. :rockin:

 

[joelemite]

i used the original recipe as the start for my first IPA. had to swap citra for the simcoe, but i am loving this brew! it is everything i love about IPA. The hops are in your face at first, but they don't kill your palate like stone's ruination. i think the citra added a pronounced grapefruit note. i will definitely brew many variations of this going forward.

 

[bigbeergeek]

I love chinook at 30 minutes. I think that's the perfect spot for 'em... unless I'm doing my AB clone, of course

 

[panamared78]

Im new to brewing,this is going to be my second brew..just a couple of ?'s...How much water did u start out with...2.5 gall,3 gall???.,could i use nottingham yeast?..I cant wait to brew this!!!...Thnx!!

 

[scrambledegg81]

-Started with 2 1/2 gallons--top off using distilled water (to Original Gravity) after cooling.

-Never used Notty yeast, so I can't say for sure what kind of results you could expect. White Labs has always worked out for me, and they ferment fairly clean.

-Thanks! :rockin:

 

[Fangdangle]

So I brewed this up from the original recipe (almost) and it has been one hell of a fermentation. It's a week after and it's still very visible in the airlock seven days after brewing. I've brewed a couple IPA's but never had one bubbling away for this long. Anyone else experience this? Not complaining at all, just never expected it to have it bubble so much.

 

[scrambledegg81]

Sounds like you had some happy yeast in that case. If I remember, I think I saw bubbles for 5-6 days straight before it died down, so you should be fairly close.

 

[safetydan]

I brewed my take on this yesterday. I used the original hop bill and the modified grain/extract bill from the second recipe on page 5 of this thread.

I had an OG of 1.078 and it's now happily bubbling away.

 

[scrambledegg81]

After a trip to the LHBS & an order from Northern Brewer, I finally have the ingredients for the finalized version. I wound up choosing White Labs' San Diego Super Strain for the yeast, so we'll see how this bad boy turns out within the next few weeks. Brew day, t-minus 2 days and counting... :rockin:

 

[rogoman]

want to try one of these recipe's...has anyone tried the 2nd recipe on page 5 and had good results?

 

[D_Ranged_Eskimo]

Tried the first recipe but haven't done the second, but the one thing that stands out that may need changing is the 30 minute ahtanun addition. It's so low in AA that it's better suited for a flavor or aroma addition then a bittering addition.

 

[scrambledegg81]

Tried the first recipe but haven't done the second, but the one thing that stands out that may need changing is the 30 minute ahtanun addition. It's so low in AA that it's better suited for a flavor or aroma addition then a bittering addition.

Yeah, I realized that after buying the Ahtanum from my LHBS & noticed that it was only 5.2%. I might bump them down to 20-15 minutes when I brew this weekend (had to bump brew-day back as well).

 

[D_Ranged_Eskimo]

Yeah, I realized that after buying the Ahtanum from my LHBS & noticed that it was only 5.2%. I might bump them down to 20-15 minutes when I brew this weekend (had to bump brew-day back as well).

Good choice! Otherwise it is almost a waste of hops in the grand scheme of this beer!

 

[bpm07]

I'm giving this a go but living here in central Europe the hop choices are somewhat limited.

Also, I plugged the original hops into beersmith and the IBU was way low, like 35 ish (UNLESS I set it to a 5 gallon boil). I can only boil about 3 gallons so I find myself going crazy on the hops just to get to 80IBU.

Here's what I've put together with liberal substitutions and working with hops I already have or that I can easily order:
3oz magnum @ 15% for 60 minutes
1oz northern brewer @ 10% for 30 minutes
1/2oz perle @ 9% for 15 minutes
1/2oz cascade @ 5% for 15 minutes
1/2oz perle 9% for 5 minutes
1/2oz cascade @ 5% for 5 minutes

1oz perle dry hopped 7 days
1oz cascade dry hopped 7 days

This seems like a lot of hops especially given the recipes in this thread which seem to come from a partial boil. Am I missing something here or was the original recipe based on a full 5 gallon boil?