Heads up hop heads - Mosaic (HBC 369) at freshops!

[FATC1TY]

I tried a hydro sample of my Mosaic IPA. Can't remember what the hell I put in there, but I know I had a fair bit of Mosaic. I think I used just Chinook, Simcoe and Amarillo, and maybe some Belma, with the balance being toward Mosaic.

Pretty fruity.. Maybe a bit too much. Will probably hit it with some Columbus or Chinook with some Mosaic to boot.

Anyways.. It was sweet, but wasn't done, it's at 1.012 from 1.060, so it needs a couple more points, atleast to 1.010.

Beer was down to 1.010 when I kegged it. Everything tasted pretty good. Kegged it and dry hopped it with 2oz of Mosaic in the keg.

Overall after some time. It's sweet. This hop is very fruity and sweet. Not cloying sweet. I had the above hops in there, and it's got a mix of pine and fruit. I get the citrusy pine, but I also get the berry notes in there. They are very pronounced.

I'm thinking if you like a berry note, toss some Belma in there, Mosaic and use some golden naked oats, as your "crystal malt" which will give you some sweetness and also lend a berry note.

As it stands, my recipe I came up with, was pretty good. Simple, but good. I had roughly 10 ounces of C40 in there, and I think I would probably cut that back by half next time. At 10 points, the beer is sweeter than I'd like, yet still has a very firm bitterness and bite to it.

 

[thaworm69]

I just tried one of my "green" beers'. Tasted great, but so fruity! My recipe was from AHS budget IPA kit, I switched out the hops. Including dry hopping i used 9 oz of hops with the 1.054 beer. (6oz boil, 3oz DH) I was expecting more hops, but the crystal weighed in at 1lb. My next try will definitely include some Columbus or a bit more Simcoe...I have zero dank in there. Its all fruit...I also plan on halving the crystal. Don't get me wrong this is a good beer!...just looking for more dank..

 

[bulldawgbrewer]

I just tried one of my "green" beers'. Tasted great, but so fruity! My recipe was from AHS budget IPA kit, I switched out the hops. Including dry hopping i used 9 oz of hops with the 1.054 beer. (6oz boil, 3oz DH) I was expecting more hops, but the crystal weighed in at 1lb. My next try will definitely include some Columbus or a bit more Simcoe...I have zero dank in there. Its all fruit...I also plan on halving the crystal. Don't get me wrong this is a good beer!...just looking for more dank..

I completely agree. Now that my ipa has been in the keg for a few weeks the fruit has calmed down a little bit, but it's still definitely all fruit bomb and no dank. Unless you're really into that, this hop should be combined with more dank C hops to balance out the fruit.

 

[FATC1TY]

I just glad I had some chinook and simcoe in there with mine. I can't imagine what it would taste like without them. TOO fruity and sweet.

It's a great hop, I think it'll fit the bill very very well. I just needs something to balance it back to the middle.

 

[sweetcell]

i made an imperial red/amber hop-bomb a few weeks ago that was all cascade and amarillo in the kettle (including a 175*F hop-stand). i had an extra 3/4 of a gallon that i fermented in a jug. dry-hopped that extra jug with 0.6 oz mosaic (main batch dry-hopped with simcoe, columbus and just a touch of amarillo). it will be interesting to compare the two batches. the mosaic batch should be a crazy fruit-bomb.

 

[bulldawgbrewer]

Terrapin beer company (out of Athens, GA) just released their new side-project: Mosaic. It's a red rye hopped with all mosaic hops. Here's a link to the description and a picture of their awesome label for it:

http://beerpulse.com/2013/03/terrap...rye-ale-now-available-in-side-project-series/

I'm looking forward to trying it and seeing how the mosaic hops work with the rye.

 

[FATC1TY]

Terrapin beer company (out of Athens, GA) just released their new side-project: Mosaic. It's a red rye hopped with all mosaic hops. Here's a link to the description and a picture of their awesome label for it:

http://beerpulse.com/2013/03/terrap...rye-ale-now-available-in-side-project-series/

I'm looking forward to trying it and seeing how the mosaic hops work with the rye.

Yeah, I'm planning on getting a pile of it. I love rye and mosaic I think will go well with it.

If anyone wants this limited release, LMK. Willing to trade some.

 

[Beezer94]

Just tried the 2013 Sam Adam's Hopology Latitude 48 IPA now with Mosaic in the mix. It's frack'n delicious! I definitely need to brew with this hop ASAP!

 

[djavatar]

I brewed up an amber that was hop bursted with Mosaic. Wow. I got a lot of citrus but also some pine and earth. It wasn't over the top sweet/citrus that others have experienced. To be fair, I did bitter with a wee bit of Bravo and the amber is a bit roastier than intended so maybe that changed the profile.

Can't wait to brew with them again... My freezer is just packed with to many new and tasty hops... I just mashed in on a Polaris IPA.

 

[sweetcell]

mosaic is rapidly becoming my go-to hop for dry-hopping. i made an imperial brown and dry-hopped the main batch with columbus and simcoe, but pulled a gallon into a jug a dry-hopped it with mosaic. first tasting of the two brews was last night, and all 3 people present agreed that the mosaic beer had the better aroma.

 

[HopheadNJ]

Tomorrow's brew day is going to finally make use of some of the Mosaic hops I've had in my freezer for weeks. A pale ale (malt bill from TastyBrew recipe) with a hop schedule I made up on the fly and a 2L starter of WLP029 Kolsch yeast. Beersmith says 1.053 / 46.5 IBUS @ 65% efficiency (my last 2 BIAB were low)

What do you think? Anybody use Centennial with Mosaic before? Cascade in the dry hop or replace with Simcoe?

Amt Name Type # %/IBU

9 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 1 79.2 %
1 lbs 8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 2 12.5 %
1 lbs Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 3 8.3 %

0.50 oz Chinook [15.60 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 22.1 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [10.10 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 5 17.4 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [12.30 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 6 7.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [12.30 %] - Aroma Steep 2.0 min Hop 7 0.0 IBUs

1.00 oz Cascade [8.99 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 9 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [12.30 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 10 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg German Ale/Kolsch (White Labs #WLP029) [35.49 ml] Yeast 8 -

 

[i_heart_beer]

Just dry hopped a batch of Ed worts house pale ale with an oz of mosaic! I also used only mosaic in the boil too! Can't wait! (Basically his hpa but instead of all cascade I did all mosaic)

 

[bulldawgbrewer]

I ended up taking silver in the Peach State Brew Off this past weekend with my Mosaic IPA. Here's the recipe and hop schedule that I used:

60min Mash @152F
60min Boil

13# Maris Otter
1# crystal 20
1# victory
1# flaked oats

White Labs 002 English Ale yeast (fermented @ 67F)

1.75 oz Magnum 60 min

Whirlpool hop steep:
1oz Mosaic
1oz Falconer's Flight
2oz Simcoe

1st Dry Hop (pellets in hop bag in secondary for 4 days):
1oz Mosaic
.5oz Falconer's Flight

2nd Dry Hop (removed 1st bag and replaced):
1oz Mosaic
1oz Simcoe

3rd Dry Hop (racked to keg and dry hopped in keg for 3 days):
1oz Mosaic

 

[mewithstewpid]

I ended up taking silver in the Peach State Brew Off this past weekend with my Mosaic IPA. Here's the recipe and hop schedule that I used:

60min Mash @152F
60min Boil

13# Maris Otter
1# crystal 20
1# victory
1# flaked oats

White Labs 002 English Ale yeast (fermented @ 67F)

1.75 oz Magnum 60 min

Whirlpool hop steep:
1oz Mosaic
1oz Falconer's Flight
2oz Simcoe

1st Dry Hop (pellets in hop bag in secondary for 4 days):
1oz Mosaic
.5oz Falconer's Flight

2nd Dry Hop (removed 1st bag and replaced):
1oz Mosaic
1oz Simcoe

3rd Dry Hop (racked to keg and dry hopped in keg for 3 days):
1oz Mosaic

i dunno, this hop schedule looks good and all, i only wish it had more dry hop additions.

 

[bulldawgbrewer]

i dunno, this hop schedule looks good and all, i only wish it had more dry hop additions.

Haha yea 4.5oz over 3 dry hops is pretty nuts...

I got the idea from the 'Can you brew it' podcast with Kern River's Citra IPA that won gold in the GABF for IPA in 2011. I basically used the same dry hop schedule but instead of Citra and Amarillo I went with Mosaic and Simcoe (with a little Falconer's). One of the judges actually wrote on the scorecard that he thought that Citra was prevalent in the aroma...but I obviously didn't use any Citra...so I guess the tropical fruit aroma in the Simcoe-Mosaic combo does smell a lot like Citra.

 

[tinytowers]

IMO, you've gotta be careful dry-hopping with Mosiac, or any other super-alpha for that matter. You can get a VERY stemmy taste in no time. I shoot for no more than 3 days. I really don't want my beer to taste like I'm chewing on a fresh hop...just my 2 cents.

 

[sweetcell]

IMO, you've gotta be careful dry-hopping with Mosiac, or any other super-alpha for that matter. You can get a VERY stemmy taste in no time. I shoot for no more than 3 days. I really don't want my beer to taste like I'm chewing on a fresh hop...just my 2 cents.

by "stemmy" do you mean vegetal or grassy?

i recently dry-hopped for 7 days on a healthy amount of mosaic and didn't get any bad effects. i usually DH for 4 or 5 days so this was longer than usual for me.

 

[tinytowers]

Yeah, the term "stemmy" was coined by the brew master at Stone, but yes I mean vegetal tasting.

 

[FATC1TY]

I've left mosaic at keg temp in the kegs dry hopping while carbing and serving for like 2 weeks, and didn't get any of the vegetal taste from it. Could be the cold temps, which also slow down the dry hopping.

 

[Dave1096]

Brewing with Mosaic for my first time tomorrow. I've already done this recipe sans Mosaic, so I'll have a good feel for what it adds. Here's my concoction:

Richard Simmons - Damn, That's Fruity
Imperial IPA
Type: All Grain Date: 5/8/2013
Batch Size (fermenter): 6.00 gal Brewer: Dave
Boil Size: 9.28 gal Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: Stainless Kegs (10 Gal/37.8 L) - All Grain
End of Boil Volume 7.28 gal Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Final Bottling Volume: 5.25 gal Est Mash Efficiency 87.5 %
Fermentation: Ale, Two Stage Taste Rating(out of 50): 30.0
Taste Notes:
Ingredients


Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
14 lbs 2.7 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 81.8 %
12.7 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 4.6 %
12.7 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 3 4.6 %
12.7 oz Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 4 4.6 %
6.1 oz Honey Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 5 2.2 %
6.1 oz White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 6 2.2 %
0.75 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 7 26.2 IBUs
0.33 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 8 7.0 IBUs
0.33 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 9 6.3 IBUs
0.33 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 10 6.2 IBUs
0.33 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 11 5.8 IBUs
0.33 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 12 5.2 IBUs
0.33 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 13 5.1 IBUs
0.33 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 14 4.2 IBUs
0.33 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 15 3.8 IBUs
0.33 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 16 3.7 IBUs
0.33 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 17 2.3 IBUs
0.33 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 18 2.1 IBUs
0.33 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 19 2.1 IBUs
0.66 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 min Hop 20 0.0 IBUs
0.66 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 min Hop 21 0.0 IBUs
0.66 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.50 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 min Hop 22 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [35.49 ml] Yeast 23 -
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.70 %] - Dry Hop 10.0 Days Hop 24 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Dry Hop 10.0 Days Hop 25 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Dry Hop 10.0 Days Hop 26 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.50 %] - Dry Hop 10.0 Days Hop 27 0.0 IBUs

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.078 SG Measured Original Gravity: 1.046 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.014 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 8.5 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 4.7 %
Bitterness: 80.0 IBUs Calories: 151.6 kcal/12oz
Est Color: 6.2 SRM
Mash Profile

Mash Name: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out Total Grain Weight: 17 lbs 5.0 oz
Sparge Water: 5.95 gal Grain Temperature: 72.0 F
Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F Tun Temperature: 72.0 F
Adjust Temp for Equipment: TRUE Mash PH: 5.20

Mash Steps
Name Description Step Temperature Step Time
Mash In Add 25.64 qt of water at 162.4 F 150.0 F 75 min

Sparge Step: Fly sparge with 5.95 gal water at 168.0 F
Mash Notes: Simple single infusion mash for use with most modern well modified grains (about 95% of the time).
Carbonation and Storage

 

[Dave1096]

double post for some reason

 

[FATC1TY]

Nelson with the Mosaic makes me stomach want to turn.. Thats gonna be a sweet tasting beer!

 

[Dave1096]

Nelson with the Mosaic makes me stomach want to turn.. Thats gonna be a sweet tasting beer!

Not going for overly sweet...going for a tropical fruit bomb with some of that unique Nelson character thrown in the mix. I've paired Nelson with Citra and it was awesome...so why not throw some Mosaic in there too? I don't find Nelson to be very sweet, anyway...Citra is much sweeter to me than Nelson, and I love it. Mosaic is the wild card in this recipe as far as I'm concerned...everything else I already know I like together.

 

[Bsquared]

I've been using 1oz Nelson 1oz Mosaic at flame out for my Rye pale ale I've been working on. (10 gallon batch 10-25% Rye, two batches done). Its been a good combination as far as I'm concerned. Spicy and fruity. Im considering upping the Mosaic and using it in the dry hop to for my next test batches.

 

[bulldawgbrewer]

I did a hop-bursted mosaic red rye a few weeks ago that turned out great. 15% rye, added only .5 oz mosaic at 90 min to aid boil reactions then did a total of 5 oz split between 20, 10, 5, and 0 minute additions to achieve ~70ibu. Dry hopped with 2 oz mosaic. I love this hop with rye. The fruitiness of the hop matched with the spicy dryness of the rye and caramel sweetness of the crystal malts just explodes on the pallet. Probly one of my best batches to date. The grain bill is based on founder's red's rye clone if anyone is interested.

 

[gbarron]

I would definitely be interested in that red rye grain bill, Dawg!

 

[bulldawgbrewer]

My grain bill is a little crazy because I ended up using all of my left over crystal malts from previous batches instead of buying more. Just add up all the crystal and shoot for the same percentage instead of copying it exactly, unless you really want to. Also mine ended up darker than expected, like a dark copper borderline brown, so you may want to use less chocolate malt to get a more 'red' color. Mine is a little sweeter than the red's rye (higher mash temp), and the chloride to sulfate ratio is more balanced because I wanted to really taste all those different malts. Here ya go:

60 min mash at 155F (single infusion/batch sparge)
90 min boil
1.071 OG -- 1.015 FG
WLP090 White Labs SD Super Yeast (love this stuff!)

Grains:
8 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM)
2 lbs Rye Malt (4.7 SRM)
1 lbs Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM)
1 lbs White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM)
8 oz Victory Malt (25.0 SRM)
4 oz Bairds Carastan (40.0 SRM)
4 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM)
4 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 10L
4 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L
4 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L
4 oz Honey Malt (25.0 SRM)
4 oz Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM)
4 oz Special B Malt (180.0 SRM)
3 oz Chocolate Malt (450.0 SRM)

Hops:
.25 oz Mosaic 90 min
1.5 oz Mosaic 20 min
1.5 oz Mosaic 10 min
1.0 oz Mosaic 5 min
1.0 oz Mosaic Hop Steep (cooled wort to 180F 1st then steeped for 10 min)
2.0 oz Mosaic Dry hopped 1 week, 1st 4 days @ 70F Last 3 days at 33F

Water:
110 ppm Calcium
8 ppm Magnesium
28 ppm Sodium
102 ppm Cloride
109 ppm Sulfate
Residual Alkalinity ~ 18ppm as CaCO3

:rockin:

 

[Chromebrew]

Made a Peach ale with Munich base malt, dry hopped on 2 oz of Mosaic. It is infreakin credible

 

[HanzerBiscuit]

Just kegged a batch of this :

5 lbs CMC White Wheat (2.0 SRM)
5 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) Canada (3.0 SRM)
8.0 oz Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM)
6.0 oz Wheat Toasted #2 (15.0 SRM)

0.35 oz Mosaic [12.30 %] - First Wort 90.0 min
0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [9.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min
0.75 oz Mosaic [12.30 %] - Boil 5.0 min
0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [9.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min
1.00 oz Juniper Berries (Boil 5.0 mins)

1.0 pkg Belgian Wheat Yeast (Wyeast Labs #3942) [124.21 ml] Yeast 11 -

After a week I cranked the heat up to 80 and left it for 2 weeks. Hydro Sample was damn tasty. I really like the Amarillo / Mosaic Combo

 

[starman]

Just kegged a batch of this :


After a week I cranked the heat up to 80 and left it for 2 weeks. Hydro Sample was damn tasty. I really like the Amarillo / Mosaic Combo

Have to agree. I did a FFF gum ballhead clone a similar grainbill as yours with mosaic and results were very popular.