The last couple times I brewed big beers. 16lb grain bills to be exact. Both times I have failed to meet the estimated SG. I'm sure there has been things that I've done to cause this. I cant help but think of other possibilities like are the pre milled grains I'm getting from morebeer adequate. I'm actually starting to question the ability of the all in one type electrical brewers aka Grainfather, Robobrew and mash & boil when it comes to large grain bills. I've never done a brew using the big coolers and such. I wonder if there is more room in those compared to the all in one vessels. I'm am thinking that maybe I should have split the 16lb grain bill into two 8lbs then just added together for the boil. By doing that I would think one would get more efficiency out of the mash .