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[Walker]

this document specifically states that nothing other than 120V coil relays can be attached to the load side of the module:
http://communities.leviton.com/servlet/JiveServlet/previewBody/2051-102-1-3107/Spec 8895.pdf

 

[jdlev]

Thanks walker! PS...you gotta change that avatar...c'mon man...I mean put some ****ies up there or something nice to look at!

 

[Walker]

people take me more seriously with this ugly ass avatar.

 

[jdlev]

PS...walker...see you're in Cary! I'm coming up with the carolina brewmasters on a 4 or 5 brewery tour this weekend in Raleigh on Saturday. You should crash the party

 

[Walker]

dude... there are about 60 guys up here in the officially unofficial disorganized organization called GRABASS (Greater Raleigh Area Brewers and Suds Sippers).

You say the word, and we could descend on you like a freaking army.

 

[jdlev]

Check out http://carolinabrewmasters.com for details on the breweries we'll be touring

I don't know what the schedule for the day is, but they have more info on there if you scroll down on the first page.

If you come out...I might not remember lol...homebrews on the bus + 5 breweries = a very, very drunk Jeff!

 

[Walker]

If you come out...I might not remember lol...homebrews on the bus + 5 breweries = a very, very drunk Jeff!

Oh, you will remember us. That is guaranteed.

 

[bigdug]

Thanks walker! PS...you gotta change that avatar...c'mon man...I mean put some ****ies up there or something nice to look at!

Na man that's Walker in his going out clothes all dolled up and stuff

 

[Nail]

Ok.. so having written that, I don't think this "20A" rating that is mentioned in the listing is accurate at all.

I am looking at the freaking manufacturer's documentation and it says that the GFCI load terminals on the module itself are rated for "0.6A max".

so... f#ck that seller's description. I don't yet see anything in the manufacturer's document that indicates that it can handle 20A.

I recieved mine this weekend and you are right Walk, it must be used with a relay. DO NOT go by the item description. It is some guy that got them at an auction or something and is trying to make money. If ya need to see how to use one, check this out.

http://communities.leviton.com/servlet/JiveServlet/previewBody/1635-102-1-2298/Ins 8895.pdf

It has the relays approved to use with it and the instructions to wire it. This cannot be used by itself. Sorry for the confusion that I added to.

 

[Walker]

totally , but I have a large wooden crate with a lid that sits just inside the door. We keep shoes in it.

it's from the Mishwaka Wool Company and looks old as hell.

Got it for $1 at a garage sale.

 

[EarthBound]

Um, if you DON'T use a GFCI, then your system is neither well thought out nor properly constructed. Period.

I pretty much said this ^^ to a couple electricians I work with today. I was asking them about the bolt-in GFCI breaker I have, and they were telling me I don't need GFCI. They said a properly constructed grounding system (with a normal breaker) is all I need. They are master electricians and the smartest electricians I've known, so I was surprised to hear that from them. I got the breaker, brand new, for $20 from the local used electronics parts store. You can't a get a better deal for something so life-saving!

 

[Nail]

I haven't been here that long Walker. I only moved here 5 years ago. Sounds like a cool box though.

Earthbound I have heard the same thing from electricians at work too. I work at a power plant so we have nothing but licensed professional electricians. However, they said it wouldn't hurt and $20 for a little extra protection is a cheap price to pay for me anyway.

 

[EarthBound]

I work at a power plant, too! It's nice having access to certain expertise/tools/parts, ain't it?

 

[Nail]

Oh heck yeah it is. I have been able to get over half my stuff from there. Everything from over 30ft of 10ga wire in every color, all the switches I could ever need, and countless stainless fittings. That doesn't even account for the tools available for use.

 

[EarthBound]

And everyone who works there loves my homebrew!

 

[Walker]

Wow...

If those electricians don't think a 240V high amp electrical system being operated by hand in extremely close proximity to running water does not merit a GFCI... I wonder where they *do* think a GFCI is needed.

 

[Nail]

Walker in our world 220v is not that big of a deal. To put things in perspective we generate electricity at about 20 kv and transmit at 220 kv. Our lowest voltage that is used for our equipment is 440v. There are 220v and 110v outlets around for welders and tools. Getting zapped by 220v does hurt though and is the reason I am using a GFCI.

 

[Walker]

Walker in our world 220v is not that big of a deal. To put things in perspective....

To put things in perspective, 120V will kill you just fine.

 

[ArcaneXor]

To put things in perspective, 120V will kill you just fine.

And getting zapped by 240V hurts like a sonofabitch once you wake up on the other side of the room.

 

[Bernie Brewer]

The volts don't kill you, the current does. And, for the record, those guys are full of it, IMHO. But then I am just a dumb journeyman, so my opinion doesn't count.

 

[Walker]

The volts don't kill you, the current does. And, for the record, those guys are full of it, IMHO. But then I am just a dumb journeyman, so my opinion doesn't count.

Bernie... don't come waltzing in here making sense and all that stuff. This is no place for it.

 

[Bernie Brewer]

You are right, of course. Silly me.

 

[Nail]

Please don't misunderstand, I am all about including a GFCI. Just trying to help others understand the view of the electricians that Earthbound spoke about. I personally don't wish to be bit by 120v or 240v. Hurts either way.

 

[milldoggy]

120 gives me a chubby

 

[Nail]

120 gives me a chubby

Hell yes milldoggy



You should try 440. I got bit by that in while in the Navy. I was tingling for days. :cross: