gelatin finings?

[lemy]

I have not used gelatin in a keg, but use it regularly in my secondary about 3 days before I keg and have never had a beer jello issue.

http://www.reedbrewing.com/2011/07/down-at-delta-jello.html

Whenever you use gelatin in a keg, make sure to draw off a couple ounces every few days until it is carbonated. The gelatin makes a big glob of beer jello at the bottom of the keg. If you don't move the beer, it clogs the dip tube.

 

[pola0502ds]

Well, I used knox gelatin in my keg and it's amazingly clear. Love this stuff. After I bottled a few from the keg and shared, my buddy wants to try it too. The problem is that he can't cold crash and he doesn't keg. Will gelatin have any effect at room temperature?

how do you bottle your beer from the keg?

So when you add gelatin from the keg, you don't have any problem with getting all that gelatin in your glass?

 

[pola0502ds]

And yes, it is okay to add it at room temperature. That is the only way I have done it and thats why I asked about the kegging method, I have never done it before.

 

[BrewThruYou]

how do you bottle your beer from the keg?

So when you add gelatin from the keg, you don't have any problem with getting all that gelatin in your glass?

I used the Bowie Bottler and the complement that Irrenarzt sells.

The first pint or pint and a half was a ton of sediment, but after that, I get awesome pours...crystal clear. I did it to a Citra IPA and it's probably my best beer to date...especially on a clarity level.

 

[Oldsock]

I used the Bowie Bottler and the complement that Irrenarzt sells.

The first pint or pint and a half was a ton of sediment, but after that, I get awesome pours...crystal clear. I did it to a Citra IPA and it's probably my best beer to date...especially on a clarity level.

I borrowed one of those from Claphasma last night, trying it out one my entry into the Pilsner Urquell contest tomorrow.

 

[BrewThruYou]

I borrowed one of those from Claphasma last night, trying it out one my entry into the Pilsner Urquell contest tomorrow.

It's pretty awesome. If he has the instructions, make sure you follow them. I tried it first without reading the instructions, probably overlubed it, and made a mess. It worked perfectly the next two times.

 

[400d]

oh my god. I just did it, but I'm afraid I ruined my beer! gelatin solution smelled like rotten pig, awful!

anyone had similar experience?

 

[Reno_eNVy]

oh my god. I just did it, but I'm afraid I ruined my beer! gelatin solution smelled like rotten pig, awful!

anyone had similar experience?

Nooo definitely not. What brand was the gelatin?

 

[Oldsock]

It's pretty awesome. If he has the instructions, make sure you follow them. I tried it first without reading the instructions, probably overlubed it, and made a mess. It worked perfectly the next two times.

Thanks, he gave me the instructions and I'm planning on watching the youtube video in that thread as well. I'll practice tonight and then just fill the bottles right before heading to the competition tomorrow.

 

[400d]

Nooo definitely not. What brand was the gelatin?

hm, I don't think a brand from Bosnia and Herzegovina would mean anything to you

but it was regular white odorless gelatin used for making cakes and whatever.... It's based on pigs not cows.

It smelled horrible! As If I entered the stinkiest barn ever with dead animals all over.

 

[JonK331]

oh my god. I just did it, but I'm afraid I ruined my beer! gelatin solution smelled like rotten pig, awful!

anyone had similar experience?

Yeah it always smells like that for me. I use knox. Added some to a Pale Ale last night and it smelled horrible.

 

[400d]

so how is it possible that such horrible smell doesn't affect the beer at all?? don't get it...

 

[pola0502ds]

So that bottling wand you speak of, I have it to and I have not had any luck with it. Everytime I use it to bottle the beers are flat within a few days or next morning. I don't know what I am doing wrong, If anyone has advice please PM me.

 

[BrewThruYou]

So that bottling wand you speak of, I have it to and I have not had any luck with it. Everytime I use it to bottle the beers are flat within a few days or next morning. I don't know what I am doing wrong, If anyone has advice please PM me.

Probably not the right thread to discuss that. Try here: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f41/bottling-wand-perlick-525-75-aka-bowie-bottler-228344/

I've only used it twice. Once to fill bottles that were consumed within a couple hours and the other time the bottles were consumed 2 days later. Both times, it was carbed just slightly less than if I was pulling from the tap and drinking.

Based on your procedure from the other thread, I think you are leaving too much headspace and you need to chill your bottles first. I would fill right to the stopper and put the bottles in the freezer for 10-20min beforehand.

 

[Rigby]

Could you use normal beef gelatin to thinin you're home made cider ??

 

[JonK331]

so how is it possible that such horrible smell doesn't affect the beer at all?? don't get it...

I'm not sure either but it seems that it all settles out and is left behind in the fermenter.

 

[Rigby]

Ok I will test it and see how it goes if you find out anything let me know there's plenty of time left only started a new Bach last night

 

[pola0502ds]

Probably not the right thread to discuss that. Try here: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f41/bottling-wand-perlick-525-75-aka-bowie-bottler-228344/

I've only used it twice. Once to fill bottles that were consumed within a couple hours and the other time the bottles were consumed 2 days later. Both times, it was carbed just slightly less than if I was pulling from the tap and drinking.

Based on your procedure from the other thread, I think you are leaving too much headspace and you need to chill your bottles first. I would fill right to the stopper and put the bottles in the freezer for 10-20min beforehand.

Thanks

 

[BrewThruYou]

Thanks

No problem. The first time I filled, I went all the way to the stopper and the bottle was filled more than my bottle conditioned beers (less headspace). I thought it looked weird, so I didn't fill it as much the next time. I think the first beer was better carbed.

 

[taurean]

How bad did I screw this one up:

I added Knox gelatin to the secondary. I heated the water (1cup) to about 120-130, added 1/2 packet of Knox, dissolved it by stirring constantly, and kept is on and off the heat for about 10 minutes. I let it cool to about 90, and added it on top in my secondary, swirled it around about and put it in my swamp cooler with some ice bottles (60ish).

So, everything I read said to get the knox to 170 but do not boil. I was so afraid of boiling I only got it to about 130. Is this bad?

 

[paraordnance]

How bad did I screw this one up:

I added Knox gelatin to the secondary. I heated the water (1cup) to about 120-130, added 1/2 packet of Knox, dissolved it by stirring constantly, and kept is on and off the heat for about 10 minutes. I let it cool to about 90, and added it on top in my secondary, swirled it around about and put it in my swamp cooler with some ice bottles (60ish).

So, everything I read said to get the knox to 170 but do not boil. I was so afraid of boiling I only got it to about 130. Is this bad?

You should be fine, I don't even heat my water prior to adding gelatin, I use a cup of previously boiled water from tea kettle its normally room temp.

Sent from GT-I9100M

 

[BeerPressure]

WTF am I doing wrong? I let 1 tbl bloom in 1 cup of hot water, heated it to like 150 degrees then let it cool and the finings stuck to the bottom of my pan.

 

[guinnessface]

Dumb question, but did you stir it well while it was heating up? It shouldn't matter too much, but that could be part of the problem. I noticed that the bottom of my pan had a light coating but that dissipated with stirring. Additionally, try adding the finings to room temperature water to let them bloom. Lastly, ensure that the final product is not cooed below room temp until it goes into the beer. Hope that helps.

 

[serum67]

You cooled it too much till if hardened (fridge temps). Only chill to 65-70F then add.

 

[JonK331]

WTF am I doing wrong? I let 1 tbl bloom in 1 cup of hot water, heated it to like 150 degrees then let it cool and the finings stuck to the bottom of my pan.

this happened to me last week. I think it was due to not stirring and letting it cool too much.

 

[Reno_eNVy]

this happened to me last week. I think it was due to not stirring and letting it cool too much.

Yup =)

 

[BeerPressure]

Tried again while stirring and everything went well.

 

[HomeBrew32]

I followed the instructions in this thread: Crash cooled, added 1tbls gelatin in 160 cup of water to carboy, swirled it and put it back in the fridge. It's been 36hrs and it appears that there is a layer of gelatin on top of the beer. I thought I read 24hrs and it should be good to go, or is it longer? Also, it is a stout that I am doing this to so it is really hard to see if it has worked. Anyone ever do this to a stout and what should I look for to see if it is completed so I can rack it to the keg. I just wanted to make sure I didn't screw this up since this is the first time I have done this. Thanks.

 

[guinnessface]

I've done this three times now to lighter ales, but always when they were already cooled in the keg and then stayed refrigerated. 36-48 hrs usually did the trick. I tried this method once in a conical fermenter at room temp and it seemed like the gelatin was beaded up and floating around in the beer. So, I'm not sure if the cool temp is an essential element.
Re-reading your thread, it sounds like it's still refrigerated right? Worst case scenario, you rack the beer to another container, preferably using a mesh bag to filter/catch the gelatin and go from there. Most people I've heard don't bother with filtering stouts. Even if you hold a pint of Guinness up to a spotlight, it's still hard to see through it....but you already know that. I'd try to re-rack and if you have the time, let it sit for a week to see if it clarifies a bit

 

[BierMuncher]

I followed the instructions in this thread: Crash cooled, added 1tbls gelatin in 160 cup of water to carboy, swirled it and put it back in the fridge. It's been 36hrs and it appears that there is a layer of gelatin on top of the beer. I thought I read 24hrs and it should be good to go, or is it longer? Also, it is a stout that I am doing this to so it is really hard to see if it has worked. Anyone ever do this to a stout and what should I look for to see if it is completed so I can rack it to the keg. I just wanted to make sure I didn't screw this up since this is the first time I have done this. Thanks.

Not sure where in the thread it suggested adding gelatin to chilled beer...but doing so will result in instantaneous coagulation of the gelatine. It needs to be mixed into room temperature beer, prior to chilling.

Think about it...liquid gelatin turns to..."jello" in the fridge.