Gas!

[MikeFlynn74]

Eagle F1s are garbage tires

 

[Laurel]

Eagle F1s are garbage tires

Eagle F1 GSD3's are excellent wet weather tires, and if I was certain that I wouldn't be taking my car to the track again, I'd be all over those like white on rice. They do well in summer, just not race track conditions, and are amazing summer performance tires for dealing with rain.

 

[MikeFlynn74]

Ive never been impressed with them- Ride bad and comparitive handeling with them is poor. As well as them being over priced.

Get Michelins or Falkens IMO

 

[Laurel]

Ive never been impressed with them- Ride bad and comparitive handeling with them is poor. As well as them being over priced.

Get Michelins or Falkens IMO

Unless you live in a state with huge annual rainfall, and more days that not, it's wet outside. IIRC, they raised the price recently, and a few years ago changed the compound.


The Falkens(I assume you're talking RT615) have almost half the tread depth of most other tires on the market, so while they handle better(less tread wiggle) and have a better compound and are cheaper(marginally), they wear faster and need to be replaced much sooner than others.

What Michelins are you referring to? Pilot Sport PS2? Great tires, but they cost over $1200 for a set for my car.

 

[MikeFlynn74]

I dont know- I know when I used to work at a tire store in FL the guys would bring back the eagles or have them replaced the min after they bought the car.
Michelin is worth the money IMO. Falkens do have less tread. In Fl we got an hour of rain a day but the road would be dry 15 min later too.

 

[Laurel]

I dont know- I know when I used to work at a tire store in FL the guys would bring back the eagles or have them replaced the min after they bought the car.
Michelin is worth the money IMO. Falkens do have less tread. In Fl we got an hour of rain a day but the road would be dry 15 min later too.

Well there's a huge difference between the Eagle F1 supercar and the Eagle F1GSD3. The Eagle F1 is just a line, like the Bridgestone Potenza(of which there are very good, and very bad tires).

What Michelin are you talking about?

 

[MikeFlynn74]

**** theyve changed so much- Pilot Sports were supposed to be the better all around tire and the PS2s were more fairweathers right? But I know from experience the Michelins are by far better overall quality than most anyhting out there. Even their truck tires are pretty good.

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[wihophead]

I would, but we get snow here in IL.

I run amsoil synthetic motorcycle oil in the bike. ~1gallon at the local shop plus a filter is about $60. Maybe I'm getting ripped off.

And I've never seen more than 8k out of a tire. Last one that went to 8k was incredibly bald and that's a sport touring tire, not an all out SS. If I were using some good sticky's, they'd only be good for 2 or 3.

I run Amsoil 20W50 and I pay $75 for a case of 12 quarts.

10K on a tire is pretty standard, I have 7K on my tire right now and it still looks great but I am very easy on them.

 

[NitrouStang96]

Eagle F1s are garbage tires

But they are indeed expensive.

The Falkens(I assume you're talking RT615) have almost half the tread depth of most other tires on the market, so while they handle better(less tread wiggle) and have a better compound and are cheaper(marginally), they wear faster and need to be replaced much sooner than others.

That's not entirely true - if people are buying the shaved tires, they're doing so because they'll get more usable performance out of them than a full-tread tire. The last set of tires on my Mustang I got shaved because all of my full-tread sets are quite disappointing after I get them just a bit worn in. Due to all the wiggle and the compound breaking down and all that good stuff.

 

[Jonnio]

I don't understand why everyone thinks you have re coop on your investment the first year. Do you think the price of gas will be less next year?


$60 for an oil change??? I run synthetic and it costs me $26 for oil and filter and I change the oil every 5K. I also get 10K on a rear tire and 20K on a front tire....

But I obviously didn't buy a Street Glide just to save money on gas....I know I will never break even...lol

I never said anything about 1 year. I have a 5 year note on my bike at an extremely low interest rate and I can't break even unless I put the truck up on blocks regardless of 110 degree (or 10 degree) days and severe weather. If I still have this same bike after its paid off then I have a chance, but insurance, gear wear and tear etc... will still make it tough.

 

[Laurel]

But they are indeed expensive.That's not entirely true - if people are buying the shaved tires, they're doing so because they'll get more usable performance out of them than a full-tread tire. The last set of tires on my Mustang I got shaved because all of my full-tread sets are quite disappointing after I get them just a bit worn in. Due to all the wiggle and the compound breaking down and all that good stuff.

We're not exactly talking about racetrack tires. These are all extreme performance summer tires. The RT615 isn't a shaved tire, it's a tire that just has less tread. Of course it gives the same effect, but with other tires, there's the option of getting more mileage out of them, and we're talking merely from a price point.

 

[MikeFlynn74]

Course you do know that Tires have an expected wear rating right?

200-300 is Ultra high performance tires
300-400 Med
400-500 low

As far as I remember

 

[Laurel]

Wear ratings are manufacturer specific and occasionally vary with the tire line. One make's wear rating of 400 can easily be less than another's rating of 200.

 

[NitrouStang96]

We're not exactly talking about racetrack tires.

True, I'm just pointing out that there are unique situations where the lower tread depth is advantageous, even on a street car. My car + my driving habits being a specific example.

 

[Laurel]

True, I'm just pointing out that there are unique situations where the lower tread depth is advantageous, even on a street car. My car + my driving habits being a specific example.

They certainly are, but if I were to the point of getting shaved tires, I'd probably be looking for something a little better than the Falkens.

 

[McKBrew]

Why are we still arguing about tires? Oh, wait this thread is about gas and the compressed air in the tires is a gas..... Ah-ha, never mind you guys are definately on topic.

 

[z987k]

what is this on topic you speak of?

 

[NitrouStang96]

Why are we still arguing about tires? Oh, wait this thread is about gas and the compressed air in the tires is a gas..... Ah-ha, never mind you guys are definately on topic.

Quite down over there! I can't hear myself think!

They certainly are, but if I were to the point of getting shaved tires, I'd probably be looking for something a little better than the Falkens.

There's a middle ground there, IMHO.

 

[EdWort]

yeah, it's about gas. Here's some good news.

America is getting its first new refinery in decades in South Dakota.
http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2008/06/04/news/top/4e608d46402d5adb8625745e00110beb.txt

The bad news is just this week politicians tried to lift our self imposed ban on drilling offshore in the 50-200 mile range and our illustrious ********s in office voted it down. Of course it when down party lines. Meanwhile China is drilling off the coast of Cuba and Mexico is drilling too and reaping the benefits.

Time for a Chuck Norris Smack Down!

 

[EvilTOJ]

Why in South Dakota, of all places? Shouldn't refineries be closer to where the oil comes in? Think of the gasoline it'll take to get the crude up there to refine it!

 

[EdWort]

Why in South Dakota, of all places? Shouldn't refineries be closer to where the oil comes in? Think of the gasoline it'll take to get the crude up there to refine it!

Because they are sitting on top of 200 billion barrels of oil.

http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news2.13s.html

 

[PeteOz77]

Because they are sitting on top of 200 billion barrels of oil.

http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news2.13s.html

OMG! It's a MIRACLE!

JESUS has come to save us all from the Muslim/OPEC Demons!

What amazing timing!

 

[wihophead]

Why in South Dakota, of all places? Shouldn't refineries be closer to where the oil comes in? Think of the gasoline it'll take to get the crude up there to refine it!

Either you truck crude to the area or gasoline, is there really a difference. That refinery could supply that surrounding area....besides the oil is coming from Canada via proposed pipeline.

This will create jobs in the area and I don't think it is a very good idea to build all of the refineries around central areas, what would happen if there was a natural disaster (or god forbid a terrorist attack) in one of those areas which could potentially close several refineries.

 

[FlyingHorse]

Because they are sitting on top of 200 billion barrels of oil.

http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news2.13s.html

I think that link may be a bit, um, fantastic. Other sources (like, say, the USGS) put the figure at closer to 4 billion bbls, not 200 billion. Good news, but hardly the "answer".

I'm inherently skeptical of news sources that can't use capitalization properly.

 

[McKBrew]

Here is the funny thing about the "new" oil reserves in North Dakota and South Dakota. In the early 1980's my family moved out to eastern Montana and my dad worked oil fields in North Dakota. When I was a kid I always thought the oil was gone and that's why we didn't stay there long, but looking back I think they quit when cheaper sources of oil were found overseas.

 

[Stew!Brew!]

4.56/gallon down here in San Diego! Whoo! And this is the cheapest. When I was in Humboldt I was paying about 20 cents more.

 

[BrewinRob]

$4.59 in North CA (San Jose). Of course you can hit up the Costco at $4.39

 

[NitrouStang96]

4.56/gallon down here in San Diego! Whoo! And this is the cheapest. When I was in Humboldt I was paying about 20 cents more.

WHERE?!?!?!?!?!?!

 

[Germey]

4.56/gallon down here in San Diego! Whoo! And this is the cheapest. When I was in Humboldt I was paying about 20 cents more.

Hey, I'm from behind the redwood curtain too! I transfered from CR to UCSD and haven't felt a need to leave.
Just you never mind the "when's" on all that.

When I compare notes with my dad, it seems that SD and Eureka are always about the same, and at the high end of the state.

 

[PeteOz77]

$1.66 Litre here.

$5.89 US dollar for US Gallon.