FunkWerks Tropic King Saison

[30Bones]

Making this this weekend but subbing in summit for rakau hops. I don't have access to FW's in Iowa to know how close this would be anyway so I am not too worried.

 

[user 141939]

Looking forward to what you get for FG. Like I said I have a hard time believing you can mash at 150 and end up with 1.007 with that yeast.

 

[poptarts]

yea I would mash at like 155 if not even higher, when I tried this beer my FG tanked. 1.002-3

 

[30Bones]

Thanks for the tips. I will look into the recipe some more tonight on Beersmith. I think it has it going down to 1.005 so a bit farther than FW's. I will adjust the mash temp to get it all in line.

My question is how long to keep it at 75? Never made a Saison to know the temp profile these generally ferment at.

 

[30Bones]

Brew day went great. Hit 1.065 with almost an extra gallon of wort. Slowly ramping up to 75 from 65. At 70 now. Lots of krausen. This yeast is great. One of the times in wish I could see it chugging

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[30Bones]

Did a gravity after a week at 76 and it was at 1.008. Probably bottle it in the next week or so. Didn't get a lot of citrus from the nose or taste like I expected. I'm not a Saison expert though. Another club member made this a week before me. curious to do a side by side.

 

[cuda6pak]

Post up some tasting notes when its all carbed and ready. Debating on this being my next beer.

 

[gotbags-10]

Just got my Rakau and opal. Gonna give it a whirl

 

[30Bones]

Bottled about 6.5 gallons last weekend. Thank god for 22oz bombers! I think I had somewhere around 39 capped and carbing up. Probably try one out next week sometime, but plan to leave a majority alone for a month or so.

 

[raysmithtx]

Any ideas on the amount of time for the dry hopping?

 

[30Bones]

I did around 10 days, cold crashed then bottled.

 

[gotbags-10]

What wheat malt should I use? Belgium or German ?

 

[30Bones]

What wheat malt should I use? Belgium or German ?

I wouldn't be too concerned.

Popped a bottle after 10 days and it's very good. I don't have anything to base it on but I'm happy. Another club member made it also I'm hoped to sample his Thursday

 

[gotbags-10]

I figured but I'll prob go with Belgium. Kinda fits the style I'd say. What amount of hop flavor are you getting 30bones? Only reason I ask is I had to buy 2oz of both opal and Rakau. I know the recipe doesn't call for all that but I'm wondering if it would hurt it? I am sort of a hop head too [emoji3]

 

[30Bones]

It's plenty hoppy. It's no DIPA but you know it's there

 

[tagz]

I just had a bottle of this. I would be surprised if they used 3711 as the primary yeast. It had more of a spicy character, similar to what I get from 3724.

 

[gotbags-10]

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Just tried my first bottle. Been conditioning for 2 weeks. Right out of the gate I get nothing but banana eaters. There was a slight head that went away in seconds. Don't taste any of the hops. Pretty bummed. I guess it's drinkable but expected much better. Followed recipe and hit all my numbers. I even fermented low and didn't do the ramp up to avoid the heavy esters. Oh well.

 

[poptarts]

yea sadly something about this recipe is just not repeatable on a home brew scale.

 

[tagz]

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Just tried my first bottle. Been conditioning for 2 weeks. Right out of the gate I get nothing but banana eaters. There was a slight head that went away in seconds. Don't taste any of the hops. Pretty bummed. I guess it's drinkable but expected much better. Followed recipe and hit all my numbers. I even fermented low and didn't do the ramp up to avoid the heavy esters. Oh well.

Can't say for sure that it applies to your situation, but I've found that I often get one dimensional banana esters from some saison yeasts shortly after kegging. I've noticed the banana fades and gives way to more complex spicy notes after about 7-10 days. Definitely true with 3726 but I haven't used 3711 in a bit. I wouldn't give up all hope, especially given that your sample is pretty cloudy. As it clears you might get a more what you're looking for.

 

[30Bones]

yea sadly something about this recipe is just not repeatable on a home brew scale.

How so? I did a side by side with the real deal and it was pretty close. That wasn't just me saying that, but the other 5 that were there. I am not big into cloning so I am not too concerned if I nail it, but a good recipe scaled down to fit my homebrew needs is always a solid foundation to mold into what you the brewer may really enjoy.

 

[gotbags-10]

I may email Gordon and see if I could send him a bottle. I've got plenty of the hops left so I wouldn't mind trying again.

 

[jplowe]

Does funkwerks make more than one Saison? Because I was at a bar in Denver and the bartender didn't know if they were multiple Saison from funkwerks. Delicious beer when I was in Denver in love to make it at home

 

[FoCobrewguy]

The have one named saison but tropic king and a lot of their beers are a saison base