First Hefeweisen tastes bad....help!

[NamasteIPA]

Hey there, so I am new to all-grain and have done 3 AG batches so far. First one (IPA) went great! Tasted wonderful! Second which is in the keg now, tastes IMO bad. It's got a very bread-y taste to it and almost a soapy taste? The recipe I came up with was really simple and straight forward...it looks and smells good...what do you guys think the problem is?

6 lb domestic white
6 lb bohemian pilsner
.5 German Cara-foam (light crystal)

1 oz. hallertau hersbucker @ 60
1 oz.hallertau traditional @ 40

Wheat 3333 yeast

Thanks!

 

[eastoak]

are you tasting out of the bottle after 2-3 weeks of bottle conditioning? or are you tasting green beer?

 

[Clonefarmer]

Wheat malt can have a bready flavor. This should mellow a bit as it ages.

Here is a page with off flavor descriptions.

Are you filtering your water?

What are you sanitizing with?

How old was the yeast?

Did you make a starter?

 

[NamasteIPA]

Thanks for the info so far! The yeast was not old but didn't use a starter. It was wyeast, I smacked it and it expanded and did it's thing as usual. I use rinse free iodine or sanitizing as well.

Also this isn't bottled, I force carbonated it in the keg over a couple days at about 30 psi.

 

[ThereThere]

Aren't Hefe's supposed to taste "bready"?

 

[New Brew]

Aren't Hefe's supposed to taste "bready"?

Yes, they can be bready, since they're 50%+ wheat.

Recipe is fairly hoppy for a Bavarian wheat too with the second oz of hops; the hop bittering might be competing with the ester/phenolic yeast flavors in an unpleasant way.

You might just be disliking the WY3333 flavor profile as well. Most seem to like WY3068/WLP300 best

 

[NamasteIPA]

Aren't Hefe's supposed to taste "bready"?

Ha well I guess just in a way I hadn't tasted before.

Sampled again this afternoon and it seems to be improving as it carbonated a little more.

 

[Runyanka]

Yes, they can be bready, since they're 50%+ wheat.

Recipe is fairly hoppy for a Bavarian wheat too with the second oz of hops; the hop bittering might be competing with the ester/phenolic yeast flavors in an unpleasant way.

You might just be disliking the WY3333 flavor profile as well. Most seem to like WY3068/WLP300 best

That's kind of what I was thinking. I typically limit my hefes to a max of 1 oz hops, typically at 45 min and that is it!

 

[nealperkins]

What was your fermentation temperature?

 

[Boodlemania]

The last hefe I made had an off taste as well. Never nailed it down. Used WLP300 with a 1L starter as usual that i'd washed from an earlier batch. It came out at 7% due to extra efficiency I wasn't planning on. It was one of my first AG's. At first it had a hot alcohol taste which i expected. After aging another month or so, it tasted OK but still had a strong slightly bitter taste i didn't like. A month after that, the off taste really came to the front of the profile. Couldn't drink it. Ended up pouring about half the batch out.

 

[NamasteIPA]

What was your fermentation temperature?

It was around 63-64. Unexpectedly cold outside while fermenting. (was in a cooler part of the house not outside ha)

So that's a little cooler than I usually ferment at, which would be around 68.