Favre overload--COUNTDOWN TO 421

[Dude]

I thought of (2) one word characterizations for the Bears.
1). Fraud.
2.) Exposed.

As of half, I'll be charitable and go with, "Exposed."

They are who we thought they were.

 

[Dude]

UH-OH.

I really didn't like that interview. Not looking good for 1 more year, eh?

 

[RichBrewer]

Dude,
The more I watch him the more I like Favre. He ain't perfect by any stretch but what a competitor and what a class act. I actually hope the Packers convince him to play for them for one more year (If they still want him). He still has the physical tools. He just needs more talent around him.
He is getting surgery on his ankle tomorrow (New Years Day) ? Sounds like he wants to play next year.

 

[greg75]

UH-OH.

I really didn't like that interview. Not looking good for 1 more year, eh?

Not looking good at all. I think Hawk will quickly become the new face of the Packers if Favre in fact does hang it up after tonight. I'm just dreading the prospect of searching for a new QB, though. I know it's unfair to judge this early, but Rodgers just doesn't strike me as the guy to fill #4's shoes...

If Brett comes back, I think this team has a chance of being very competitive in the NFC next season. The offensive line will be that much better with another season together, Jennings can continue his ascension, Koren Robinson will be back, etc. They have a chance to be very good, I think.

Come on, Brett! One more year. Hell, make it two more years.

 

[merc]

All I will say is....

GO PACK!!!!!

Go FAVRE!!! and GO GREEN!!! In whatever you decide to do. You've earned that much.

 

[Flyin' Lion]

I get tired of hearing all of the retirement crap, didn't Warren Moon play into his forties? If Favre can still play then he should--for love of the game, not for records.

By the way, I never liked Favre considering he is in our division and has embarrased us numerous times, but I'm not bashing on him here.

 

[user 574]

UH-OH.

I really didn't like that interview. Not looking good for 1 more year, eh?

I missed the whole game. What'd he say? Personally I think the media should stop asking "are you retiring" all the time. Friggen let it happen or not; stop posing the question all the time.

 

[Fiery Sword]

I hope none of you Packies were flaming Adam Morrison when he went crybaby after UCLA blew the Zags out of the water last year.

I feel like I've seen Bret Favre cry on TV more than ANY athlete EVER. I propose re-naming this thread to "Tammy Faye Overload"

 

[Wolf]

Dude,

He is getting surgery on his ankle tomorrow (New Years Day) ? Sounds like he wants to play next year.

The surgery has been postponed. What does that mean It has to mean something, right?!
It's gonna be another long couple months in Wisconsin.

 

[Dude]

I found this EXTREMELY interesting. I guess Peter King is an idiot too, eh, haters?

Taken from a recent Peter King (Sports Illustrated football guru) column:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/02/06/super/1.html

Where would I rank Favre right now? Okay, here we go. I say 10. My order:

1. Peyton Manning. 2. Tom Brady. 3. Drew Brees. 4. Carson Palmer. 5. Marc Bulger. 6. Matt Hasselbeck. 7. Philip Rivers. 8. Donovan McNabb. 9. Tony Romo. 10. Brett Favre. 11. Ben Roethlisberger. 12. Matt Leinart. 13. Vince Young. 14. Chad Pennington. 15. Jay Cutler.

That ought to get the arguments started.

Now, Favre threw for the seventh-most yards in his career with Donald Driver and a bunch of John Does playing wideout. His tight end, Bubba Franks, has fallen off the face of the earth; he played like he should have been on the side of a milk carton in 2006. Favre was sacked 21 times in 657 dropbacks, so he certainly still has the escapability that a quarterback needs. You think he had a bad year? I think you're wrong.

 

[Dude]

I feel like I've seen Bret Favre cry on TV more than ANY athlete EVER. I propose re-naming this thread to "Tammy Faye Overload"

LOL...unreal.

Oh, I don't know..your FATHER dying might be a good reason. Cheese and rice.

 

[the_bird]

Eh, difference between QB today and QB for the next five or ten years. I'd rather have Cutler, Leinart, or Young on the roster than Favre, even if it mean a couple more losses in '07.

 

[user 574]

I think the SI guy was talking about 06 since he said "right now" productivity not future prospects, potential etc. I'd have it pretty close to that except for Romo and Favre I'd probably switch. Romo and Young could have been honeymoon stuff. Or put Young where Romo was. Romo came in like gang busters and then became quite "common".

 

[Dude]

I think the SI guy was talking about 06 since he said "right now" productivity not future prospects, potential etc. I'd have it pretty close to that except for Romo and Favre I'd probably switch. Romo and Young could have been honeymoon stuff. Or put Young where Romo was. Romo came in like gang busters and then became quite "common".

Exactly. This is the argument I've been trying to convey to the haters all year. I never said who will be the best 2 or 5 or 10 years from now.

I'm pointing out that Packer fans in general don't have the wool pulled over their eyes regarding Favre. I said he was top 10 in the beginning of the year, and I just got that redeemed by a pretty respected sportswriter.

You don't push a top 10 QB out the door.

And FWIW, If Favre wasn't the QB all year, teh Packers would have been 4-12 or worse. Take that to the bank. He's still got mad skillz.

 

[user 574]

LOL...unreal.

Oh, I don't know..your FATHER dying might be a good reason. Cheese and rice.

Or your wife getting breast cancer, or your brother getting hit by a train, or your grandma's house wiped off the earth from a huricane. He definitely should listen to country music and kick his dog with his string of bad luck.

 

[Dude]

Or your wife getting breast cancer, or your brother getting hit by a train, or your grandma's house wiped off the earth from a huricane. He definitely should listen to country music and kick his dog with his string of bad luck.

I know...comments like that crapola just make me shake my head.

It must hurt SO bad for the "haters" to loathe a Hall of Famer so much. I just don't understand it.

 

[Dude]

LOL.

You just gotta read it.

Complications in Favre's recent ankle surgery

 

[sause]

That's a fricken great one Dude!

 

[Fiery Sword]

I know...comments like that crapola just make me shake my head.

It must hurt SO bad for the "haters" to loathe a Hall of Famer so much. I just don't understand it.

It's you packies that just don't get it. That post was written in response to Favre putting on the waterworks for HIMSELF and HIS career. It was after this past season ended, and he was being asked if this was it for him, and his response was to cry and whimper what all you cheeseheads see as manly, steel tears. To the rest of us, it is just sad.

His family issues have nothing to do with the criticism. If I lost my job, I wouldn't cry to the world about the fact that my 26 year-old, signle mother cousin and friend was just diagnosed with cancer (true). Same thing with Favre. I guess Favre is just more emotional, and unstable, than me. Enough with the pity.....he's a crybaby.

I will stand by my comment that I've seen him cry on TV more than ANY other athletein ANy pro or college sport. We'll have to go down to Little League to find an equal.

Other topics......SOOOooooooo. Randy Moss to GB? Even a washed up Hall of Famer could hit those hands for a few TD's every once in a while.......unless there' a pass rush.

 

[Dude]

His family issues have nothing to do with the criticism. If I lost my job, I wouldn't cry to the world about the fact that my 26 year-old, signle mother cousin and friend was just diagnosed with cancer (true). Same thing with Favre. I guess Favre is just more emotional, and unstable, than me. Enough with the pity.....he's a crybaby.

I will stand by my comment that I've seen him cry on TV more than ANY other athletein ANy pro or college sport. We'll have to go down to Little League to find an equal.

Come on FS. Lame. How often is your cousin on TV surrounded by reporters?? (Sorry to hear that BTW)

I just don't understand the hate. I jsut don't.

 

[Fiery Sword]

I sticking to it. He's a crybaby.

Seriously though, I hear the Pack wants Moss. And supposedly there is interest from tha Pats to??!?!?!? That'd be a tough one to swallow.......

 

[Dude]

I sticking to it. He's a crybaby.

Well you're a t00l.

Seriously though, I hear the Pack wants Moss. And supposedly there is interest from tha Pats to??!?!?!? That'd be a tough one to swallow.......

I'm a fan of the Green Bay Packers. Whatever helps them win, I am all for that. While it would sting at first to RM in a GB iniform, I could live with it. I truly believe (and have for years) all Randy Moss wants is to win and get the damn ball. He was grossly mis-used in Oakland.

FWIW, I'm not going to buy in that he'll be much better in GB. Favre never has been able to throw a nice deep ball. Those lofted touch passes to the end zone that Moss is so good at catching won't happen with the rocket balls from Favre. But....at the very least Moss would be a great diversion tactic.

 

[the_bird]

Moss to the Pats?

They talked about it at the deadline. I'd be for it, honestly. It comes down to whether he's more of a T.O. (always, always about himself, even to the detriment of the team) or another Corey Dillon. Thing is, if Moss doesn't work out, Belichick has both the clout and the balls to simply cut him loose, as long as the contract is structured properly. We'd be able to get him cheap - not a lot of downside to bringing him aboard. We've got enough veteran leadership where he's not going to be able to dominate the locker room. Brady will get him the ball. We NEED that big-play receiver, the guy who can simply take over a game from that position - I don't know that we have ever had that kind of receiver, certainly not in recent memory.

 

[olllllo]

Talking to a player of noteriety is a good tactic whether you want the player or not. Especially if not.

 

[user 574]

Moss was pretty quiet wasn't he at the Raiders? I think I heard something about not playing hard cuz we suck commentary but that's normal for him.

 

[Fiery Sword]

I'm in agreement with you both, dude and bird - Moss would surely help any team that he's going to end up on. The TO-or-Dillon question is very applicable, though unanswered. I'm not really hesitant about Moss due to his attitude (I think that he would in a lot of ways thrive in NE) but rather due to the circus that would follow a guy like Moss to a team like NE, or GB. Oakland is used to the circus act (no offense, desert) but all that questioning and media coverage can itself creat an issue when there might not normally be one.

Right tho, the Pats have never had a Randy Moss. Certainly in Brady's years. He would be amazingly productive.

 

[the_bird]

The one thing that worries me about Moss in New England....




Brady could have Jerry Rice in his prime, and he's still going to throw to ten different guys. There would be weeks when Moss wouldn't get many looks, simply because that's how the gameplan worked out. Could he deal with that? What if it were a couple weeks in a row? Branch was clearly the #1 receiver the other year, and he didn't crack 1,000 yards. Nature of the beast with a coach who is very flexible in his approach and a QB who has such a good ability to see all of his potential targets.

 

[todd_k]

I can't see Moss playing in Green Bay. That guy needs some kind of nightlife and I doubt Green Bay or Milwaukee is going to give that to him. I think NE or Jacksonville would be better for his kind of lifestyle. And what happens when Favre retires after next season, is Moss going to respect Aaron Rodgers or whoever else is the qb?

 

[user 574]

Oakland is used to the circus act (no offense, desert)

Not a problem, I'm a cheesehead. And when Brett tears up, I get all verklempt.

 

[Fiery Sword]

I dont think Moss would have a problem with the ball getting spread around. In the last three seasons, he's only averaged 50 receptions and 775 yards. In Deion Branch's last three full years with the Pats (excluding 04 due to injury), he averaged 62 receptions and 842 yards. Even while gameplanning to spread the ball, Moss would have at least as much of an opportunity as he has for years.