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where are you exactly ?....

Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA

We have some old Hiver sitting on the shelves. Maybe one other beer that I can't remember.

Shelton Brothers either (a) hates Wisconsin or (b) L. Knife and Sons (the parent company of Beechwood, the Shelton distributor in WI) chooses to have your beers (along with Cantillon, 3F, and other) sent to their other distributors.

Wisconsin probably didn't buy a lot of imports back in the day for the necessary relationships to develop, and now we're perpetually screwed on any limited stuff that Shelton gets.
 
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA

We have some old Hiver sitting on the shelves. Maybe one other beer that I can't remember.

Shelton Brothers either (a) hates Wisconsin or (b) L. Knife and Sons (the parent company of Beechwood, the Shelton distributor in WI) chooses to have your beers (along with Cantillon, 3F, and other) sent to their other distributors.

Wisconsin probably didn't buy a lot of imports back in the day for the necessary relationships to develop, and now we're perpetually screwed on any limited stuff that Shelton gets.
Portland has rocked the imports for years and rarely gets any Limited Shelton stuff. I think it's just based on proximity and market size. East Coast gets taken care of, then the rest goes to CA
 
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I'm really confused by this one. This is the 'fresh' batch with the green cap. Poured completely flat and tastes under attentuated with a sweetness that I cannot recall getting in the past with Fantome. I know that Noel has had various shades in the past, but I've never seen one with such a deep and opaque brown.

Has anyone else opened one with a green cap?

Just for perspective, here's last year's batch

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I have no ******* idea, the ghost works in mysterious ways
 
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I'm really confused by this one. This is the 'fresh' batch with the green cap. Poured completely flat and tastes under attentuated with a sweetness that I cannot recall getting in the past with Fantome. I know that Noel has had various shades in the past, but I've never seen one with such a deep and opaque brown.

Has anyone else opened one with a green cap?

Just for perspective, here's last year's batch

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I have no ******* idea, the ghost works in mysterious ways
Yah, just got my green caps, very soft carb so far, should pick up. Thought the taste was great, lots of liquid candy syrup going on, like Rochefort 10. I do miss the pepper and herb notes of the old Noels, but that's been consistent for 6-7 years or so. The last version that was this dark was '10 or '11.
 
PA got a keg of Vertignasse? Didn't they?

I got to try the vertignasse on tap last week at max's in Bmore. Interesting beer for sure, poured a light hazy green and was fairly flat (looked more like pond water than what you would imagine a "green beer" would look like). Smelled like funky fresh cut grass and cucumber (maybe that was the spinach?). It was only slighly tart, but had a nice subtle touch of fruitness to it. I'd drink it again. Glad i got to tick a "bizzare" fantome beer.
 
Opened up Santes 17-20 this past Saturday.

17 tasted like an old, oxidized Dubbel. Near drain-pour. 18 was like a tart, dark Saison. I enjoyed it more than my brother.

19 is still awesome. Was one of the best "straight out the gate" Tomes I've had in recent memory. Drier, less citrus fruit, more funk now than when it was fresh.

I didn't like 20 at first, but it's really starting to round into form. The Tome magic is kicking in, and balancing out the peppery yeast character. Start cracking this one.
 
This is one of the biggest mysteries to me. I'm surprised that the yeast "cocktail" never seems to ferment these beers down to the level of bone dryness.

Most definitely. Some of the fresher bottles seem to have more of that juicy thickness to them and older bottles seemed to have "tightened" up a bit with time. I can't help but wonder what "secrets" he's tossing in there that cause that. I've never had anything older than a few years so I wonder how the body on bottles older than 5 years is.
 
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Most definitely. Some of the fresher bottles seem to have more of that juicy thickness to them and older bottles seemed to have "tightened" up a bit with time. I can't help but wonder what "secrets" he's tossing in there that cause that. I've never had anything older than a few years so I wonder how the body on bottles older than 5 years is.
It varies greatly depending on the tome house brett/wild culture being present. Bottles like Sante 3, cisse leuze and even old etes are quite thinned out and dry. But something such as loch ness that has minimal "wild" character is still on the thicker body spectrum. Special Unique Noel at 23 years old was the most extreme example ive encountered, it was thicker than most barleywines/old ales of comparible age.
 
Its bottled with what im gonna proclaim to be one of the best labels ever.
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etre was suppose to have it for sale last month...donno what the delay is with this one as well as villagio verde

im gonna shoot my load if etre sells verde, vertignasse and the new batch of ete all at the same time

Anything ever come of this?
 
Anything ever come of this?
Etre folks said ete has come and gone without them ever getting any.

Beancurdleturt was snuck in there but nothing but silence regarding the bottles of the others.
 
Im guessing that new Ete was that light version someone posted in Serious Knowers?
Yah, light with white caps for 16. Belgium in a Box got them but no Etre, sad since BiaB doesn't ship to the West Coast.
 
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