Equally Obnoxious Hockey Trash Talk Thread, eh?

[Barnzy02]

I've never seen Rinne look this bad, then again, i don't watch a lot of Nashville games.

But 9 goals against in two games, sounds more like a Bryz stat line than Rinne; only Bryz would win those games :cross:

 

[jtkratzer]

So, at this point, what was the bigger surprise - Phoenix up 2-0 on Nashville or Philly's 3-0 and eventual 4-2 series win over Pittsburgh?

I went back and read some posts after my round 2 predictions and it's funny to see the comments about Phoenix maybe stealing a game and getting lucky to not get swept.

 

[DangerRoss]

You make your own luck, but Phoenix is getting a lot of bounces going their way right now.

We will see how they do in Smashville.

 

[jtkratzer]

Brodeur's calling out the officials:

“The referees have a hard job. They see it live. Definitely van Riemsdyk pushed my stick over when he came across. He didn’t do it on purpose. He was going in front of the net and I had my position there. It prevented me from making the save. When it goes so quick like that for the referees, especially after disallowing one goal, they wouldn’t do that twice in Philly. That’s for sure.”

http://mobile.nj.com/advnj/pm_29222/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=l1ZnmFzK

JVR wasn't in the crease and barely touched any part of Brodeur or his equipment. Not sure what he's whining about.

 

[Barnzy02]

I don't hear JVR whining about gettin worked over by Brodeur.

atleast he didn't end his team's season with the one yesterday, Marty's just having flashbacks to this:



Guy hasn't been clutch in years, not saying he isn't good or has his moments anymore ... but get him moving side to side, or get in his kitchen and he is beatable.

 

[jtkratzer]

I don't hear JVR whining about gettin worked over by Brodeur.

I wish JVR would use his size and stick up for himself. Doesn't need to fight, just get in someone's face occasionally. He gets pushed around too much.

 

[FreshZ]

Petro is skating this morning. The blues have a chance again!!

Side note, how in the hell was that hit on him not a major, or at the very least a double minor?

And then Shanahan doesn't even suspend him? WTF?

This type of play keeps hockey from being a major sport. It's obviously my favorite, and will be forever; but I can see how new fans don't get it and how the media (U.S.) disrespects it when something like this or the Shea Weber thing happens. What a joke.

 

[wildwest450]

Rinne's going to come back to earth, no way he goes through 2 more rounds playing like that. They really don't have a great offence, Howard let a few through he shouldn't have, even though he was very good last night(no shot on either goal). A team with a very good goalie (St.Louis, LA) that can score 3 goals a game should beat them. Nashville never scored over 3 goals in the series.

Yes, I called it. Nashville will be content with finally beating the Wings, they won't go far. You can quote that too.

I didn't see that coming either. Maybe after winning against Detroit, the Preds feel they have accomplished all they set out to do this year...

I called it! :rockin:

 

[Barnzy02]

Just saw the hit on Pietrangelo, not a major, not a suspension ... right call was made, IMO.

Gave him a bit of push, looked like Pietrangelo just lost his balance and momentum took him awkwardly to the boards.

Scary play, hope he's okay.

 

[rjwhite41]

Just saw the hit on Pietrangelo, not a major, not a suspension ... right call was made, IMO.

Gave him a bit of push, looked like Pietrangelo just lost his balance and momentum took him awkwardly to the boards.

Scary play, hope he's okay.

Yeah, I agree. Am I the only one getting sick of everyone calling for a suspension everytime somebody gets hit? It's a violent sport and violent things will happen, unless a player intentionally tries to seriously injure another then call the penalty, if one's deserved, and leave it alone.

 

[Leeds1]

Yeah, I agree. Am I the only one getting sick of everyone calling for a suspension everytime somebody gets hit? It's a violent sport and violent things will happen, unless a player intentionally tries to seriously injure another then call the penalty, if one's deserved, and leave it alone.

No you're not the only the one, I hate it as well and it seems to come from "new" fans of the game.

 

[ColbyJack]

Boarding--- it's the New Interference!!!

 

[jtkratzer]

Here's a stat for all you folks who don't like numbers: Since leaving Buffalo... Danny Briere has 36 playoff goals. The Sabres, as a team, have 33.

 

[FreshZ]

No you're not the only the one, I hate it as well and it seems to come from "new" fans of the game.

I'm all for what you guys are saying, and I thought the raffi Torres hit shouldn't have been a suspension.

But this was from behind and into the boards. I couldn't be further from a "new" fan. As a current coach, former player and 12 years as a level 4 official; I can tell you, the two worst phrases are "from behind" and "into the boards". He may not have had murderous intent, but the result could have been/will be dangerous.

This is exactly the type of thing that they say they are trying to get out. I have no problem with a hit, or a fight, or even a slash. But when you hit a player into the boards from behind, that's over the line.

It's not so much that he needs to be suspended, but he can't get a minor and no suspension. Major and a game, no suspension, fine. Minor and suspension, also fine. But the league can't suspend people for this type if thing ever again if you don't suspend for this. That's the joke.

Oh and that Steven walkom will be allowed to ref again. Ha!

 

[Barnzy02]

Look at Randy Jones' hit on Patruce Bergeron or Jesse Boulerice on whoever he hit.

Those were dangerous hits, where players were hit from behind into the boards.

This was a player being hit from behind that fell into the boards. Big deference there.

 

[Barnzy02]

Boarding is scary but it's not a major, match, and suspension on every play.

Here's the randy jones hit i was talking about.

 

[jtkratzer]

Look at Randy Jones' hit on Patruce Bergeron or Jesse Boulerice on whoever he hit.

Those were dangerous hits, where players were hit from behind into the boards.

This was a player being hit from behind that fell into the boards. Big deference there.

Look at Jordan Staal's hit on Coburn earlier this year. That's more than a 2-minute minor. Maybe not a suspension, but definitely not a minor.

 

[FreshZ]

Boarding is scary but it's not a major, match, and suspension on every play.

Here's the randy jones hit i was talking about.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKsTZLVRfHo

That was an ugly hit, and IMO, worse than king on petro. But that doesn't negate that king's hit still was a major. It was not the dirtiest hit ever, just a dirty hit. That's what makes this so infuriating. This is a standard major and game with a 1 or 2 game suspension. The fact that it isn't, is what makes shanahan and the NHL a joke. Hockey is great, but the NHL is 4th rate organization.

 

[Barnzy02]

Carkner doesn't get suspended for literally jumping a guy and beating him while he's down on the ice, and you want a 1 or 2 game suspension for that hit ?? Take the blue glasses off, honestly.

There was no malice or violent intent there, it was just an unfortunate play. It was called as it should have been.

I heard Pietro might be playing tonight anyway ....

 

[ColbyJack]

I called it the new interference because it is the NHL latest effort to change the way the game has been played for decades. I would venture that most if us commenting here have played coached or affiliated hockey at some point. Since when do you not protect yourself when getting a sh*tty breakout pass on the wall. Turn your shoulder, turn your body, play the puck with your skate. That's like fourth day of hockey practice when I was six years old. That winger knows he's going to get checked. You never put yourself in that position to get crippled!!!
Colby Jack

 

[Leeds1]

I called it the new interference because it is the NHL latest effort to change the way the game has been played for decades. I would venture that most if us commenting here have played coached or affiliated hockey at some point. Since when do you not protect yourself when getting a sh*tty breakout pass on the wall. Turn your shoulder, turn your body, play the puck with your skate. That's like fourth day of hockey practice when I was six years old. That winger knows he's going to get checked. You never put yourself in that position to get crippled!!!
Colby Jack

This x1,000

 

[FreshZ]

Carkner doesn't get suspended for literally jumping a guy and beating him while he's down on the ice, and you want a 1 or 2 game suspension for that hit ?? Take the blue glasses off, honestly.

There was no malice or violent intent there, it was just an unfortunate play. It was called as it should have been.

I heard Pietro might be playing tonight anyway ....

He probably will play, but that's really not the issue. Resorting to homer talk is the last refuge of a beaten mind by the way.

And the fact Carkner wasn't suspended just proves my point. The NHL sucks at discipline and officiating. There is no standards or consistency. That's the problem. I've got little to no point if this same play hasn't drawn a suspension this season.

Side note, i don't expect to hear any bitching when a blue goes after doughty or kopitar tonight. That's part of the game too.

 

[jtkratzer]

This is exactly why the NHL needs to allow players to police themselves to a point, get rid of the instigator rule, and make players accountable for their actions, even if that means having to face off with someone and drop the gloves. Guarantee the number of suspendable incidents drops off when players have to answer the bell.

You all sound like you want the Broad Street Bullies back with this talk of King having to answer to the Blues tonight.

 

[arturo7]

I called it the new interference because it is the NHL latest effort to change the way the game has been played for decades.

The fundamental rule change happened a few years ago when they eliminated the "bear hug" check in an effort to add more offense. You can no longer press a guy against the boards. Now must you make a hit and there lies the problem.

 

[StittsvilleJames]

Carkner doesn't get suspended for literally jumping a guy and beating him while he's down on the ice, and you want a 1 or 2 game suspension for that hit ?? Take the blue glasses off, honestly.

Damn right he doesn't get suspended. Not his fault Boyle is a turtle. If Boyle had of not been such a *****, it would have been a fight, not a "jumping mugging and damn near murder" that you people want it to be.

Gretz had Semenko. Karlsson has Carkner. Suck it up ladies.

 

[ColbyJack]

The fundamental rule change happened a few years ago when they eliminated the "bear hug" check in an effort to add more offense. You can no longer press a guy against the boards. Now must you make a hit and there lies the problem.

That was the silly interference call I referenced. Obstruction holding!!! G*y.

 

[ColbyJack]

Damn right he doesn't get suspended. Not his fault Boyle is a turtle. If Boyle had of not been such a *****, it would have been a fight, not a "jumping mugging and damn near murder" that you people want it to be.

Gretz had Semenko. Karlsson has Carkner. Suck it up ladies.

A fight is two men engaging one another with the intent of going to the box or locker room afterwards. Boyle had no intention of fighting that game. It was a good hit he laid. Same as our hit on Neil later in the series. It's one thing to pick on a sissy star like Crosby-- you'd better expect Orpik to blindside you. It's another to check a player open Ice with his head down, and then attack him... in another game. Deal with it that day boys. These grudge fu*ks are getting old.

 

[Barnzy02]

He probably will play, but that's really not the issue. Resorting to homer talk is the last refuge of a beaten mind by the way.

And the fact Carkner wasn't suspended just proves my point. The NHL sucks at discipline and officiating. There is no standards or consistency. That's the problem. I've got little to no point if this same play hasn't drawn a suspension this season.

Side note, i don't expect to hear any bitching when a blue goes after doughty or kopitar tonight. That's part of the game too.

I was just implying that the leagues decisions for some reason are based on outcome not intent, when it comes to discipline.

And the homer comment, everyone hates to see guys on their team get hurt, hit like that. But, that hit really wasn't that bad, you got the two minutes and it was called as that, you're sounding like a homer saying he shoulda been suspended. Does that guy even have a history of 'dirty' hits? Serious question.

 

[Barnzy02]

Damn right he doesn't get suspended. Not his fault Boyle is a turtle. If Boyle had of not been such a *****, it would have been a fight, not a "jumping mugging and damn near murder" that you people want it to be.

Gretz had Semenko. Karlsson has Carkner. Suck it up ladies.

And fights end when on guy is on the ice. Get outta here.


you comparing karlsson to Gretzky?

 

[ColbyJack]

you comparing karlsson to Gretzky?

I would! Neither of them could punch their way out of a wet paper bag! Go Rangers!!!