schmoe said:
Sounds like the Red Wings from last year.
And this year's Flyers. Before they played like turds for the last few weeks they were the best road team in the league and pretty average at home.
wildwest450 said:
Anyone who thinks that hit was anything other than sweet, is nuts. Just because hockey is turning into girls lacrosse doesn't mean someone can't be laid out by a good clean hit.
He was looking for quarters on the ice and got blasted, exactly what should have happened.
Yeah, that's fine, but no need to destroy a guy's face. You can't blame the player all the time the same way you don't blame the player facing the boards who gets hit from behind.
There has to be some level of mutual respect, at least amongst the players who are not dirtbags. There is a respect amongst the fighters in how they do business. In today's league with the headshot rules, there has to be a respect amongst the players not to destroy each other's skulls...or there should be suspensions.
I am fully aware Jake had his head down, but that's not a free pass to blast him in the face where the shoulder hitting the face is the first point of contact. Kronwall could have just as effectively stopped the play and kept the puck in the zone without trying to kill Jake.
That's my point. It's a lack of respect and a hit to the head. Yes, Jake's head was down. Hit Rinaldo that way, fine. He's a guy that everyone hates.
The other side of the coin is everyone who follows the NHL knows that if that was turned around, and it was a Flyer making that hit, it probably would have been a major and the refs definitely would not have circled the wagons I protect that guy the way they did last night.
It's not a conspiracy thing, it's just the way it is when you play in Philly, the rules are different for you and the penalties are harsher when you're the offender and they're softer when you're the victim of a hit.
paulster2626 said:
100% agree.
This is the fork in the road for the League right now I think.
According to Shanaban's rules:
The principal point of contact was the head.
The player did not change his position immediately before contact.
It is up to Kronwall to attempt to avoid hitting Voracek in the head.
However - this was 100% Voracek's fault. There's a reason why we don't try to brush out a puck from the boards like that. It's something you learn very early in hockey by - get this - getting pasted. It's why I hate HATE playing left wing (I shoot right). Puck gets caught up in the snow along the boards and you get all screwed up trying to dig it out on the backhand. You have to instead make sure you keep both hands on your stick and are forced to pass it to a breaking forward. It's a recipe for failure.
Plus, I would expect NHL players to know when Kronwall is on the ice and is about to plaster someone with his shoulder.
See above. That's the fastest way to learn to keep your head up, but you also play at a different level that in peewee or juniors where dudes do try to kill each other to get to the NHL. Knrowall is not a guy trying to keep his job like Steve Downie a few years ago when he hit Dean McAmmond (spelling, Ottawa player) and got 25 games for charging and a hit to the head. Very similar time frame when Jesse Boulerice had a short stint with the Flyers and got a 25 game suspension for cross checking Ryan Kessler in the face.
Yet when Corburn is boarded by Staal from Bettman's dream team, nothing more than a fine worth less than a weekend bar tab for these guys is handed out.
It's just the way it is for the Flyers. Whenever anyone gets crushed, it's a good solid hit. Any time there's a hit like that and the Flyers are the aggressor, it's dirty, and penalties are handed out, if not for the hit, for the scrum that ensues afterward.
Look at how Rinaldo gets a penalty for breathing on guys, same with Hartnell. It's the way it is.
They're terrible
