Vienna Lager Eliot Ness Vienna Lager Clone

[Newbeerguy]

Newbeerguy, I ordered all the supplies for this batch from Austin Homebrew Supply. I brewed the batch a few days after receiving the ingredients. I would think AHS moves enough product that the chances of getting old grains or bad hops would be slim? Maybe just a fluke? I really enjoyed brewing all grain. I will give this another go very soon!

Hmm, yeah, i highly doubt that you got bad ingredients from AHS. I've ordered from them many times without issue.

Are you 100% sure the flavor you were getting was grass? Not vegetable, corn, buttery or apple?

Just trying to help narrow down the cause.





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[cjbalough]

Sipping on the GL original, I'd like to take this recipe and lighten it up a bit for a summer beer - thinking more of a Mexican export body than the heavy winter/fall of the GL. Would I be OK to follow the recipe as 3.3 lb Munich lme, 3lbs light DME, + 1 lb rice solids & the same specialty grains and hop schedule? Also bump to 5.5 to 6 gal? Probably looking to wyeast California common/ steam beer yeast.

 

[paulkantor]

I am 90% sure it was a grassy flavor. I have never had a problem with anything from AHS myself.

 

[Newbeerguy]

Sipping on the GL original, I'd like to take this recipe and lighten it up a bit for a summer beer - thinking more of a Mexican export body than the heavy winter/fall of the GL. Would I be OK to follow the recipe as 3.3 lb Munich lme, 3lbs light DME, + 1 lb rice solids & the same specialty grains and hop schedule? Also bump to 5.5 to 6 gal? Probably looking to wyeast California common/ steam beer yeast.

I would cut the hops ~1/2 if your going to lighten the body. This is on the hoppy side for a Vienna lager and would be very hoppy on a lighter base. You should be fine to keep the speciality grains the same especially if your steeping, not mashing them.


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[pfgonzo]

Just acquired the grain/hop bill for this. Tomorrow's the day!

[edit] All brewed up. It's chilling to pitching temp now. For whatever reason my last two brews have had terrible efficiency, this one included. Only about 69% when I've hit 80% several times. Will post a pic once it's finished fermenting/lagering.

 

[Mdsutton]

Made second batch. I split the Munich into equal parts Munich and Vienna. LHBS got a new mill, efficiency was Great. I had 6.5 Gallons in the fermenter at 1.070, i did use an extra pound of Vienna.

 

[pfgonzo]

2 months later!

 

[wyowolf]

Brewed 10 gal of this, this morning. I thought for sure i had H hops... nope, just one ounce so sub Mag for bittering and the H for the flameout... I set my IBUs at 26...

.7 Oz for 60 Alpha 15.2
.5 Oz for 30 Alpha 15.2
1 Oz Hal at flameout Alpha 4.2

2206 Bav Lag that I saved and stepped up twice to 2 liters

13lbs 2row
8 Munich
2 Caramunich
1 Crystal 40

into two 5 gal buckets into fridge to cool down to 51 before I pitch the yeast...

 

[BigRedHopHead]

I'm brewing up a Vienna Lager tomorrow to tap for the 4th of July. Jamil's recipe, but using Brulosophy's ale temps for lager yeast. Imperial yeast L17 Harvest at my basement temp of 64 degrees. I have been on a lager kick since listenting to the Brulosophy podcasts on using lager yeast at ale temps. I have been quite impressed with the results. No off flavors, clean, crisp, lagers without the hassle. Keg and gelatin should clear the beer in time. Will post results. Prosit!