American Porter Edmund Fitzgerald Clone (AG)

[korndog]

Are you getting any raisin notes from the Special B. I can't remember that from the original, but it sounds interesting.

KD

 

[korndog]

Can't get WLP007 locally. LHBS said Wyeast Whitbred yeast would work well or use 005. Any thoughts on this? I want the nice dry finish.

 

[ohiobrewtus]

Can't get WLP007 locally. LHBS said Wyeast Whitbred yeast would work well or use 005. Any thoughts on this? I want the nice dry finish.

uwmgdman used Wyeast 1028 and was pleased with the results. I've never used anything other than WLP007 to make it so I can't attest to the results of using another yeast.

There's just enough special B in there to add to the aroma. This beer does not present any dark fruit aroma or taste.

Jdawg, your comments are curious to me. Every time that I've brewed this it borders on stout to me, but I still consider it a porter. Did you mash in at 1.25qt/lb. and mash at 154?

 

[korndog]

uwmgdman use Wyeast 1028 and was pleased with the results. I've never used anything other than WLP007 to make it so I can't attest to the results of using another yeast.

There's just enough special B in there to add to the aroma. This beer does not presetn any dark fruit aroma or taste.

Jdawg, your comments are curious to me. Every time that I've brewed this it borders on stout to me, but I still consider it a porter. Did you mash in at 1.25qt/lb. and mash at 154?

I found a site that lists Wyeast 1098 as a direct equivalent to 007. I have this yeast, so I will give it a shot. Thanks for the reply on the Special B.

 

[Jdawg]

Hey guys-

I missed my strike by about 4 degrees at 1.25qt/lb and think that contributed to my low OG- I also ended upwith about 3/4 gallon extra after boil and I followed the recipe listed. The extra wort after my boil would without any question lower my OG, next time I will boil for longer and take readings every 5 minutes till I get what I want. I would like to try this one out with a increased grain bill, more crystal and 2 row- I tend to really like "bigger" dark beers but really like the drinkability of this one.

Cheers!

 

[korndog]

I did my batch today and everything went great... although my OG came in @1.051 @ 70 degrees F. ant thoughts?

I did mine today and came in a touch lite as well. Oh well. I took reading at 70f and and it was 1.052 which adjusted out at 1.053 on promash. I cooled to 60f and it read 1.058. I have had this happen often while adjusting from a higher temperature. Used Wyeast 1098. Can't wait to see how it comes out. Dumped hydro sample without a taste...Damn.

KD

 

[sleepystevenson]

Anybody try this with White Labs London Ale yeast (WLP013) yet? I just happen to have that one in stock....

Not a problem to buy the Dry English Ale yeast (WLP007) as originally called for, just thought I would see if anybody had experience w/ the London in this recipe.

Thanks!

 

[Jdawg]

Mine turned out great- I couldn't wait for it to age so I kegged 5 gallons and have been enjoying it throughly- the other 5 is being aged. Looking forward to checking the difference between the aged and the young.

- Cheers!!!!!!!!

 

[SRFeldman79]

so i found <a href="http://www.realbeer.com/discussions/showthread.php?threadid=10451">here</a> a supposed friend of a Great Lakes brewer claiming they use Wyeast 1028.

 

[korndog]

Mine turned out great- I couldn't wait for it to age so I kegged 5 gallons and have been enjoying it throughly- the other 5 is being aged. Looking forward to checking the difference between the aged and the young.

- Cheers!!!!!!!!

So, what's the verdict? I'm coming up on four weeks on mine. When should I keg this baby?

 

[ohiobrewtus]

So, what's the verdict? I'm coming up on four weeks on mine. When should I keg this baby?

4 weeks in secondary? If so, I say keg that sucker!

 

[korndog]

4 weeks in secondary? If so, I say keg that sucker!

All-righty then. Thanks!

 

[ScoutMan]

I entered my version brewed back in December in a recent local competition and wound up with a blue ribbon in the Robust Porter catagory. My favorite winter brew above all others.

 

[korndog]

I entered my version brewed back in December in a recent local competition and wound up with a blue ribbon in the Robust Porter catagory. My favorite winter brew above all others.

what yeast did you use? Thanks in advance.

 

[ScoutMan]

S-04 dry yeast.

 

[korndog]

S-04 dry yeast.

Cool. Thanks. I brewed this and didn't care for the result, but only had wyeast 1098 available. I'm looking for that dry finish like the original next time. I'm a big fan of Safale 05, so I think I will give it a shot.

 

[ohiodad]

Cool. Thanks. I brewed this and didn't care for the result, but only had wyeast 1098 available. I'm looking for that dry finish like the original next time. I'm a big fan of Safale 05, so I think I will give it a shot.

Did you not care for the yeast results or the recipe in general? I'm thinking about brewing this one as stated in the recipe and i'm hoping before I make 10 gallons that it is a good one.. I love EF in the bottle...

 

[ohiobrewtus]

WLP007 is a highly attenuative yeast that will dry this out quite a bit more than S-04 or Nottingham. Try it and you will not be disappointed.

 

[korndog]

Did you not care for the yeast results or the recipe in general? I'm thinking about brewing this one as stated in the recipe and i'm hoping before I make 10 gallons that it is a good one.. I love EF in the bottle...

I could only get my hands on W1098 when I brewed, and did not care for the results. While the beer finished out ok, it seemed under-attenuated to me. This is the direct equivalent to WL007, so I'm not sure what went wrong. The beer is fine, but underwhelming, and I don't fault the recipe. Aroma is good, and palate is good. It's just the finish and mouthfeel that don't quite cut it for me. I believe I might actually try using Safale 05 next time and see what happens.

 

[ohiodad]

So I brewed up 11 gallons of this over the weekend. Divided it up into 2 fermenters. I hit 1.060 for my OG and I pitched a starter of wlp007 Dry English Ale Yeast in one and a starter of WLP013 London Ale Yeast in the other. Looking forward to trying this and seeing what the 2 yeasts do differently.

 

[orion2598]

So I brewed up 11 gallons of this over the weekend. Divided it up into 2 fermenters. I hit 1.060 for my OG and I pitched a starter of wlp007 Dry English Ale Yeast in one and a starter of WLP013 London Ale Yeast in the other. Looking forward to trying this and seeing what the 2 yeasts do differently.

Any verdict yet? I'm going to brew this up this weekend, and am still trying to decide what yeast to use.

Thanks!
Greg

 

[CBBaron]

Any verdict yet? I'm going to brew this up this weekend, and am still trying to decide what yeast to use.

Thanks!
Greg

I used Nottingham (because I'm too cheap and lazy to use liquid yeast). I think its every bit as good as Great Lakes version.

Craig

 

[korndog]

I used 1098, which shows as the WY equivalent to 007. I'm going to try Us-05 or WY 1272 next time.

 

[ohiodad]

So I made a 10 gallon batch of this back on June 7th I pitched a starter of WL Dry English in half and a starter of London Ale in the other half and after 3 weeks in the bottle i chilled one of the Dry English Ale version down and gave it a sample. I think this is very close to to Edmund Fitzgerald which is one of my favorite brews. Nice chocolate and malt background. Just a hint of that special b raisin flavor comes through and the nice dry yet somewhat creamy finish keeps you coming back for another sip. This is a very nice recipe ohiobrewtus!! Can't wait to compare this one with the other batch and I think I will go buy a 6er of the real thing to compare all 3 this weekend. Thanks again for sharing!

 

[ohiobrewtus]

Great! Glad to hear that it turned out well for you!

 

[karbinator]

my 1st of this batch just racked to keg this evening, and I got to admit, it's
good stuff.
Thanks !!!!!

 

[KingBrianI]

just tried the commercial version this weekend and loved it. im a big fan of the dry finish and think i'll have to brew this one up soon. for those who have used nottingham for this recipe, did it dry it out like the commercial version or was it still a little sweet?

 

[jay8s]

Ok so I am going to make this great beer today, but here is my issue. I was given Nugget as sub for the Centennial. I did not even think to question it, but now I am wondering if that will be way to much. I know a cascade would be acceptable, and might have some to sub, but wanted to get ya'lls thoughts. This will be a 5 gal batch.

Thanks
John

 

[ohiobrewtus]

I know I'm a bit late since it appears that you probably already brewed this earlier today, but Nugget is a perfectly acceptable substitute for Centennial.

 

[jay8s]

Thanks, I went ahead and went with what I was given. It was not a perfect day, but I made beer. I was off on y boil off, so I was short about half a gallon, but I hit all my temps, and all my gravities. I could not help but drink what was left in my kettle when I was done, oh so tasty. I will be doing a side by side with a friend who came by today to help in a few weeks. He loves EFP, so he will be picky. Should be interesting.

Thanks for a great recipe, Ohio!!!!


Jay8s