Earth day: Whats a brewery's carbon foot-print like?

[springer]

You might try using water from the hot water heater for brewing. Your hot water heater is much more efficient that your gas burner.

Also, use the water output from your wort chiller for warm/hot (depending of the efficiency of the chiller) water for sanitizing. You don't really need sanatizing solution before this step anyway. I save most of the water, even after the output temp. drops, in buckets and re-use for clean-up.

I wouldn’t use water from a hot water heater for my beer.

1 Ever see what comes out of a hot water tank when you flush it out?

2 Older homes have lead in the plumbing Pipes and solder, hot water makes these chemicals leach out in higher concentrations than cold.


+1 on the chiller water I use it to clean the brew pots and such.

 

[EdWort]

Well, now that Earthday is over, time for some cooler news.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23583376-7583,00.html

 

[mot]

This whole "carbon footprint" is hogwash. CO2 is exhaled by living mammels and is used by plants which exhale oxygen.

All if it is insignificant compared to what Mother Nature can and does when she decides to go stomping around leaving footprints.

Nothing wrong with conserving, but lets leave it at that and don't pee on my head and tell me it's acid rain from global warming.

RIGHT ON!....I dont get why people are buying into this crap

 

[drsocc]

I have no idea where that dude pulled his numbers from - but surface temperature went up last year.

 

[drsocc]

I mean:

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/

"The year 2007 tied for second warmest in the period of instrumental data, behind the record warmth of 2005, in the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) analysis. 2007 tied 1998, which had leapt a remarkable 0.2°C above the prior record with the help of the "El Niño of the century". The unusual warmth in 2007 is noteworthy because it occurs at a time when solar irradiance is at a minimum and the equatorial Pacific Ocean is in the cool phase of its natural El Niño-La Niña cycle."

 

[EdWort]

I mean:

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/

"The year 2007 tied for second warmest in the period of instrumental data, behind the record warmth of 2005, in the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) analysis. 2007 tied 1998, which had leapt a remarkable 0.2°C above the prior record with the help of the "El Niño of the century". The unusual warmth in 2007 is noteworthy because it occurs at a time when solar irradiance is at a minimum and the equatorial Pacific Ocean is in the cool phase of its natural El Niño-La Niña cycle."

sorry, but the data is flawed since the measuring stations were not properly installed or controlled. Kinda like this one.

Detroit Lakes, MN USHCN climate station of record. The Stevenson Screen is sinking into the swamp and the MMTS sensor is kept at a comfortable temperature thanks to the nearby A/C units.

Or this one.

Junk science with bad data equals GW Hoax.

 

[drsocc]

I mean - if you download the raw data you can see the alpha. I think thats just misunderstanding the data collection and statistical analysis.

The NASA GISS stats are not "junk science". You just have to understand what it means and I certainly don't see anything to verify anything from your source from just googling around. If you have something - post it.

I mean - the real pseudoscience is saying that anthropomorphic activities somehow don't impact globe. The 'debate' is now in to what extent this impact has an effect on the planet.

And the acid rain stuff you were talking about earlier is weird. I don't see how you're not picking out the feedback loop from more atmospheric co2 = more carbonic acid = faster rock weathering.

I feel like we're beating a dead and buried horse in this thread though as this discussion pops up pretty much everywhere and most everyone is sick of the topic.

 

[drsocc]

If there was anything to gripe about in the NASA/ GISS data it was stated in the report already in the "Data Flaw" section.

edit: haha - just found this and im sure ed and i feel the same way about each other's posts right now.

 

[medic_35057]

This whole "carbon footprint" is hogwash. CO2 is exhaled by living mammels and is used by plants which exhale oxygen.

All if it is insignificant compared to what Mother Nature can and does when she decides to go stomping around leaving footprints.

Nothing wrong with conserving, but lets leave it at that and don't pee on my head and tell me it's acid rain from global warming.

Amen Ed! Sick and tired over the crap spouted by Al Gore and his ilk!