Double IPA Dogfish Head 90 Minute Clone

[scottland]

I'm looking to brew this in an 5 lb extract version. I took a suggested recipe from our local homebrew store. My bill grain is slightly different. Im using pilsen and victory. What do you think?

It'll get you pretty close. I've used a combo of victory and crystal 60 to substitute for amber malt. Side-by-side you'd be able to tell the difference, but that will get you very close. Pilsner is fine, but not needed. The recipe calls for a 90min boil, so I don't see any issues with it.

 

[idigg]

Thanks for the recipe. Looks like a huge beer, never had DFH 90, but had the 60. I need to brew this. One question tho..

I don't do yeast starters, I'm lazy. Can I use Safale US-05? Isn't US-04 mostly for British style beers? Can I just pitch 1.5-2 packets of Safale and be okay?

Looks like fun, can't wait to brew this!
justin

 

[idigg]

Your blog is awesome

 

[scottland]

1.5-2 packs of Safale is perfect; take the five minutes to rehydrate it though. Dogfish uses an English yeast, so S04 should be pretty close. Their IPAs are pretty clean so if you can't ferment this at around 62-65 use US05, it'll taste much closer at warmer temps. Either way won't be a huge difference, it's a clean yeast profile.

Thanks about the blog, I'm new at it.

 

[brew2enjoy]

Thanks for the recipe. Looks like a huge beer, never had DFH 90, but had the 60. I need to brew this. One question tho..

I don't do yeast starters, I'm lazy. Can I use Safale US-05? Isn't US-04 mostly for British style beers? Can I just pitch 1.5-2 packets of Safale and be okay?

Looks like fun, can't wait to brew this!
justin

DFH 90 is my favorite beer, it has the perfect balance of maltiness and hops (IMO). If you can get it in your area try it out!

 

[BNAllen]

Good morning, I've looked and I cannot find Thomas Fawcett Amber Malt. I checked Midwest, MoreBeer, Austin, and Northern (and I googled) ... anyone have ideas on other suppliers?

Thanks!

 

[Shuznuts]

I got my Thomas faucet (and everything else I needed) from Rebel Brewer. Reasonable prices and really good packaging. I'd use them again.

 

[scoundrel]

Good morning, I've looked and I cannot find Thomas Fawcett Amber Malt. I checked Midwest, MoreBeer, Austin, and Northern (and I googled) ... anyone have ideas on other suppliers?

Thanks!

You can also go with mdhb.com

 

[BNAllen]

Thanks I'll check it out

 

[eludden]

Good morning, I've looked and I cannot find Thomas Fawcett Amber Malt. I checked Midwest, MoreBeer, Austin, and Northern (and I googled) ... anyone have ideas on other suppliers?

Thanks!

I ordered from Farmhouse Brewing Supply in WI: http://www.farmhousebrewingsupply.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=72

 

[Shuznuts]

1.5 weeks into the bottle and slightly warm (because I couldn't wait for it to completely chill) and this beer is amazing! The hop notes are fantastic. The malt, dead on with the original! Awesome beer! Thanks for the recipe.

 

[psbuckland]

Www.mdhb.com.

I bought several pounds of it just for this recipe!

 

[scoundrel]

Www.mdhb.com.

I bought several pounds of it just for this recipe!

Haha, I was just there with my buddy to buy some for a 10 gallon batch this weekend.

 

[scoundrel]

Your blog is awesome

+1 to that!! Well done my friend.

 

[scottland]

Thanks guys! And glad your guys' clones turned out great!

 

[brew2enjoy]

Www.mdhb.com.

I bought several pounds of it just for this recipe!

Just ordered my simcoe hops and TFA malt from there. Just need to run out to my LHBS and get the rest of the stuff. SWMBO is getting me a 10 gallon MLT for Christmas! My plan is to brew this on Christmas day. Can't wait!

 

[SenorPepe]

Just brewed this last night. Completely shyte efficiency, but it smelled and tasted pretty good. A pound of DME brought it close to in line with the recipe. I also pitched Thames Valley instead of Whitbread because the damn LHBS had it put in the wrong place and of course I didn't check before checking out. Anyway I've got the malt and hops to do another round so I'll see how this one comes out and then probably do one with the right yeast in a month or so.

 

[scottland]

Just brewed this last night. Completely shyte efficiency, but it smelled and tasted pretty good. A pound of DME brought it close to in line with the recipe. I also pitched Thames Valley instead of Whitbread because the damn LHBS had it put in the wrong place and of course I didn't check before checking out. Anyway I've got the malt and hops to do another round so I'll see how this one comes out and then probably do one with the right yeast in a month or so.

Thames Valley is pretty clean, The only thing I'd be worried about is if it attenuates enough. Raise the temp of the fermenter once it starts to slow down. That should help the yeast attenuate the beer.

 

[SenorPepe]

I figured it wouldn't make too much of a differnce if I keep it at 64. I am actually kind of concerned about the opposite; Wyeast lists TV's attenuation at 77% and Whitbread's at 68-72. Have you found that to be not right in the past? I haven't actually used either of them although I've used TVII.

 

[scottland]

I always use WLP007 which is the dry whitbread, supposed to be 70-80%. You'll be fine. IIPAs should be dry

 

[brew2enjoy]

Is there a recommended mash and sparge time for a bigger beer like this? I was thinking I'll do a 60 min mash and maybe a 15 min batch sparge. Is that enough? This is my first all grain and I'm pumped!!

 

[scottland]

Is there a recommended mash and sparge time for a bigger beer like this? I was thinking I'll do a 60 min mash and maybe a 15 min batch sparge. Is that enough? This is my first all grain and I'm pumped!!

Mashing for 60min is plenty. Split your batch sparge into two parts, stir like crazy after each one, and you can run out the wort immediately after stirring. Just stir the sparges very well.

 

[brew2enjoy]

Mashing for 60min is plenty. Split your batch sparge into two parts, stir like crazy after each one, and you can run out the wort immediately after stirring. Just stir the sparges very well.

Thanks as always for the quick response. I also forgot to ask... what is your pre-boil volume for a 90 minute boil? I downloaded brew target and it is telling me 6.25 gallons. That seems low to me. I use a propane burner.

 

[remuS]

brew2enjoy: This really depends on your boil off rate. Go off of previous experience with full boil batches.

I usually do 6.25 gallons for a 60 minute boil, and did 7.25 for a 120 minute boil. Possibly 6.75 would be a good starting point. Something to keep in mind - after the first 30 minutes (60 minutes left) measure how much water you have in the pot. Adjust rate of boil from there.

I'm new to all-grain though...

 

[scottland]

brew2enjoy: This really depends on your boil off rate. Go off of previous experience with full boil batches.

I usually do 6.25 gallons for a 60 minute boil, and did 7.25 for a 120 minute boil. Possibly 6.75 would be a good starting point. Something to keep in mind - after the first 30 minutes (60 minutes left) measure how much water you have in the pot. Adjust rate of boil from there.

I'm new to all-grain though...

Exactly. It's totally dependent on your system, what kind of pot you have, how high the burner is turned up, what temp it is outside, etc.

If this is your first 90min boil I would: Take your 60min pre-boil (say 6.5gal) and subtract your typical 60min post boil (say 5.5gal). Which would give you your typical 60min boil off = 1gal. Then just assume you'll get 50% more boil off with a 90min boil. 1.5gal. So i'd start with 7gal to finish with 5.5 in that scenario. You'll just have to use your experience with your brewery to know.

Definitely err on the side of more wort to start. You'll lose a good amount of wort to the hops in both the kettle and the secondary. If you're concerned your efficiency will end up low, simply add some more 2-row to the recipe.

 

[brew2enjoy]

Well, this will be my first all-grain brew and only my 2nd full boil. The first full boil I think was right around 1 gallon boil-off during a 60 min boil so I will use that and go from there. This will definately be a learning experience for me but I am looking forward to the challenge!

 

[joeyrod]

Is their a/an extract version

 

[scottland]

Is their a/an extract version

See post # 19. Partial mash/mini mash is the best way to do this beer.

 

[zyx345]

If I cannot obtain Simcoe, any close substitutes you'd recommend?

I've searched the board and there doesn't seem to be one and there are mixed opinions as to combinations.

 

[scottland]

If I cannot obtain Simcoe, any close substitutes you'd recommend?

Simcoe is super unique, that's a toughy. It's citrusy, with a grapefruit kind of thing, but it's also really oily, resiny, and pine like.

I'd probably mix Cascade, Centennial, and Chinook together. I don't really know.....

Falconer's Flight, or Zythos are two new hop blends that would work well as a Simcoe replacement. If you can find those, i'd say that's the way to go.