Double IPA Dogfish Head 90 Minute Clone

[Bill33525]

Hey Donnie-

Did you check your F.G?? Give it some time. I have several medals from beers that I thought I would have to throw away!
A beer like this requires a few weeks to a month after fermentation to fully mature.

 

[madira_maker]

Moved this to secondary today after 3 weeks in primary, and my gravity is still in the 1.021-1.023 range.

Smells of TF Amber malt, almost sickeningly sweet. Hope this turns out. Getting discouraged here..

I am in the same situation. The OG was 1.083 and active airlock for 72 hrs and then nothing.

3 weeks later I have consistent FG of 1.025. There was very little bitterness (not sweet tho') with strong notes of the amber malt.

Dry hopped with amarillo. Will throw the simcoe in this week and keg next week.

Hope it turns out drinkable.

 

[edg1979]

yeah, i'm in the same boat too. I just bottled mine last week. I tried one yesterday and it was very malty; the hops wer good and strong but it was definitely too malty.

My fermentation was very similiar as well, i had an OG of 1.090 and pitched a 2 pack of US-05 (starter) and only had activity for a few days then nothing but my final gravity was like 1.010-1.020 can't remember exactly but very low. ABV turned out at 10.5%!

Hoping that the sweetness is a result of the priming sugars and it will go away over time in the bottle. Without that flavor it would be a great beer i think, We'll see.

 

[springtime]

Kegged my AHB extract DFH 90 min. Was a bit worried as the fermentation got a bit hot plus lid popped up a bit pouring some krausen out of the sides. Taste was very green day one after force carb. After day 6 in keg it has taken on that DFH taste for sure. Malty still has a nice hoppiness. Packs a wollop as I have the ABV @9.4%.

 

[Brian4x4]

I will be brewing this again in the next few weeks. I have been craving it.

 

[bradpoff]

Would Fawcett Halcyon pale base malt be a good choice for this brew?

 

[madira_maker]

I am in the same situation. The OG was 1.083 and active airlock for 72 hrs and then nothing.

3 weeks later I have consistent FG of 1.025. There was very little bitterness (not sweet tho') with strong notes of the amber malt.

Dry hopped with amarillo. Will throw the simcoe in this week and keg next week.

Hope it turns out drinkable.

I found the source of the high FG. My thermometer was out of cal. Was off by +11F !!
So, I really mashed at ~162F making the sugars un-fermentable.

Beer smelt and tasted ok while kegging. Should be ready for tasting in a week.

 

[TrubHead]

I found the source of the high FG. My thermometer was out of cal. Was off by +11F !!
So, I really mashed at ~162F making the sugars un-fermentable.

Beer smelt and tasted ok while kegging. Should be ready for tasting in a week.

If the sach temp was 162F then would expect a much higher FG than 1.025 for a 1.083 OG.

 

[madira_maker]

If the sach temp was 162F then would expect a much higher FG than 1.025 for a 1.083 OG.

Em... could it be because I did not preheat the mash tun (which was sitting in the garage @ 50degF) and dropped ~10 degF by the end of 90min mashing.

 

[TrubHead]

Em... could it be because I did not preheat the mash tun (which was sitting in the garage @ 50degF) and dropped ~10 degF by the end of 90min mashing.

After adding all strike water and stirring thoroughly the resulting mash temp will be achieved before putting the lid on the mash tun. How much dead space was left in the mash tun? 10 degree F drop seems a bit high even with 50F ambient temps.

 

[madira_maker]

After adding all strike water and stirring thoroughly the resulting mash temp will be achieved before putting the lid on the mash tun. How much dead space was left in the mash tun? 10 degree F drop seems a bit high even with 50F ambient temps.

I have a 54qrt rectangular cooler.... I think I had almost half the cooler still empty...I got a bigger cooler envisioning I will move to 10 gal batch

 

[TrubHead]

I have a 54qrt rectangular cooler.... I think I had almost half the cooler still empty...I got a bigger cooler envisioning I will move to 10 gal batch

That dead space consumed a bit of the heat which dropped mash temp. I've experienced this when mashing small grain bills. Might be time to get another cooler appropriately sized or configure a "false lid". I think Yooper or another brewer posted info on how to do make a false top/lid.

Good luck.

 

[bradpoff]

I brewed this on Monday, by Tuesday late it started chugging along in my ferm chamber set at 64. Checked it the next day, dipped my head into the freezer (ferm chamber) for a closer look and happened to breath in deeply and MAN o MAN....burning, over the top of my head tingling, stinging in the nose!!! What the hell is growing in the bucket or is this always the way it is....only my second batch with the ferm chamber freezer (ebay temp controller). Almost an acetic acid type nose. Has anyone else noticed this?

 

[jammin]

It's just C02

 

[TheJasonT]

Hey Brad,

Ive not made this particular brew, but I have noticed that sharp smell from some of my other beers, particularly the hoppy ones. I like to attribute it to the CO2 plus the fermentation byproducts. I wouldn't worry about it

 

[bradpoff]

It's just C02

Doubt it, CO2 is odorless and shouldn't burn as this did. More likely some compound from the hops only my second batch using a fermentation chamber so haven't noticed the strong odor. Time will tell

 

[Brharo]

i brewed this beer yesterday. everything went great and i hit the OG of 1.085. i made a 3L yeast starter and the primary was bubbling within 2 hours which i haven't seen before. however i woke up to an exploded fermenter today. i was using a blow-off tube and the bucket lid still blew off. i have a 6 gallon bucket and had exactly 5 gallons of wort. the blow-off tube was about 3 feet long. this morning before work i replaced the 3 foot tube with an 8 foot tube, thinking that that might give more space. has anyone had better experience with a longer blow-off tube? or has anyone just done an open fermentation on this beer for the first few days? I have a feeling that when I get home the lid will be off again. Thanks!

 

[madira_maker]

I found the source of the high FG. My thermometer was out of cal. Was off by +11F !!
So, I really mashed at ~162F making the sugars un-fermentable.

Beer smelt and tasted ok while kegging. Should be ready for tasting in a week.

2 gallons done...3 more to go...after (primary+secondary = 5 weeks) condition in keg for 2 extra weeks and carbing... the beer is barely drinkable.

It smells fantastic but the beer has an over powering amber malt taste... very heavy bodied (expected due to the high FG) and finishes off leaving a bitter soapy feel... I'm not sure if all this is due to the high FG (caused by mashing 11degF higher)

Will brew it again in a couple of months... hope to finish of the remaining 3 gal. by then.

 

[TrubHead]

2 gallons done...3 more to go...after (primary+secondary = 5 weeks) condition in keg for 2 extra weeks and carbing... the beer is barely drinkable.

It smells fantastic but the beer has an over powering amber malt taste... very heavy bodied (expected due to the high FG) and finishes off leaving a bitter soapy feel... I'm not sure if all this is due to the high FG (caused by mashing 11degF higher)

Will brew it again in a couple of months... hope to finish of the remaining 3 gal. by then.

Then why would you want to brew this again?

 

[Chattan]

Doubt it, CO2 is odorless and shouldn't burn as this did. More likely some compound from the hops only my second batch using a fermentation chamber so haven't noticed the strong odor. Time will tell

The burning sensation in the nose if from CO2, the by product of the yeast. How do I know???? I stuck my head in a keezer that had a CO2 leak that emptied a 40 lbs tank. It is an experience when you dip your head in the keezer and you can't even take a breath through your nose.

 

[bradpoff]

The burning sensation in the nose if from CO2, the by product of the yeast. How do I know???? I stuck my head in a keezer that had a CO2 leak that emptied a 40 lbs tank. It is an experience when you dip your head in the keezer and you can't even take a breath through your nose.

The first brew in the ferm chamber was decidedly different--no burning. I can do the 'study'! I have a C02 tank at the lab, I'll try it straight--only a couple breaths of course. Don't want to bleed out MY C02 from my corny setup!

 

[flyingfinbar]

The first brew in the ferm chamber was decidedly different--no burning. I can do the 'study'! I have a C02 tank at the lab, I'll try it straight--only a couple breaths of course. Don't want to bleed out MY C02 from my corny setup!

Careful, bud! I watched someone pass out at a paintball field. It was his first time playing, and he had a co2 leak...his buddy told him to sniff it, and the kid passed right out!

 

[madira_maker]

Then why would you want to brew this again?

Because I screwed up my mash temp (~13 degF higher) and ended up with a sweetish bitter hoppy carbonated drink... and mostly because I love DFH90 and I think I can do better

 

[TrubHead]

Because I screwed up my mash temp (~13 degF higher) and ended up with a sweetish bitter hoppy carbonated drink... and mostly because I love DFH90 and I think I can do better

I understand the "I can do better" but don't think this recipe is a clone of DF90. So even if you "do better" the results may still disappoint.

 

[coldcrash]

I understand the "I can do better" but don't think this recipe is a clone of DF90. So even if you "do better" the results may still disappoint.

I don't know. I guess that depends on what you think is a clone. I brewed this recipe twice and feel like it was pretty darn close to DFH90.

 

[flyingfinbar]

Yeah, mine was close too, despite overshooting my og.

 

[TrubHead]

I don't know. I guess that depends on what you think is a clone. I brewed this recipe twice and feel like it was pretty darn close to DFH90.

I did a side by side and the difference was significant. The amber malt in the clone was a bit too strong. It took more than a couple months to calm down but still didn't taste like DF90. Maybe your ingredients were better than mine.

There a few different recipes in this thread besides the one on the 1st page. Which one did you use?

 

[kombat]

Doubt it, CO2 is odorless and shouldn't burn as this did.

Ever drink a bunch of carbonated beverage, then burp through your nose?

Burns, doesn't it?

That's CO2.

 

[bradpoff]

Well a couple hits (separate) off the C02 tank at work and I can tell you the. Burn I experienced when I dipped my head tilt he deem chamber was not due to C02. I have a DFH60 clone In the fermenter now and I'm not picking up the 'burn' from it either. Must has been something else in the DFH 90

 

[oguss0311]

I'm brewing this tomorrow. I've not followed an actual recipe in years- just style guidelines. I have a question for the masses- I'm going to do the hop additions every few min. like I saw posted. Are other people doing this adding the additions directly into the wort, or into a steeping/straining bag? I can't decide if I think it's a big deal or not- so I thought I'd poke around and see if anyone has any strong feelings either way. . . .