Different kind of buzz??

[smokinghole]

Only thing I ever noticed different is less/no hangover in the morning. Beer gets me drunk as well as spirits, liqueurs, or wine.

 

[bdleedahl]

I agree that EtOH affects all walks of life a little differently and that, subjectively, to you, it might not matter what bolus of alcoholic beverage you are taking. But to the some others, I merely stated the physiological facts that would explain others' experiences with different beverages. To say its completely neurological and fabricated by your psyche would be naive. I provided physiological facts that would explain the different ammounts of EtOH that would reach your CNS based on the type of bolus ingested and help explain the differences perceived by the OP. I didnt make anything up but again, I cant provide evidence of bolus vs CNS EtOH delivery in the literature, I merely extrapolated on already available evidence involving other drugs. The literature I read doesnt really care about the short term effects of drinking.
-Jefe-

so in your expertise would you say that drinking different kinds of booze will lead to "significantly" (ie. easily noticeable/observable) differences in 'buzz'. And when i say different i mean it not in the sense of more or less drunk but as in a different form of buzz, which is what I believe the OP meant by different as well. Much in the same way that different kinds of drugs give different 'highs' not just degrees of the same high. or are all these variables between say beer and whiskey just minor differences that no reasonable person could claim to actually feel the difference between them (i obviously mean this in the sense that if the psychological ie. convincing oneself, could be taken out of the equation, that it really noticeably exists)

sorry if that was too wordy, but I am trying to be clear... please Jefe do your best to respond

 

[flyingwmelon]

I definetly agree that drinking home brew brings out the relax in RDWHAHB. Over just having a microbrew or a coctail.

 

[LeeF]

Maybe some of us have a more refined buzz palate.

 

[JefeTheVol]

so in your expertise would you say that drinking different kinds of booze will lead to "significantly" (ie. easily noticeable/observable) differences in 'buzz'. And when i say different i mean it not in the sense of more or less drunk but as in a different form of buzz, which is what I believe the OP meant by different as well. Much in the same way that different kinds of drugs give different 'highs' not just degrees of the same high. or are all these variables between say beer and whiskey just minor differences that no reasonable person could claim to actually feel the difference between them (i obviously mean this in the sense that if the psychological ie. convincing oneself, could be taken out of the equation, that it really noticeably exists)

sorry if that was too wordy, but I am trying to be clear... please Jefe do your best to respond

I cant comment on the subjective experiences of one high vs the another, just what I said before...different bolus, causes different absorbent rates which could help to explain the different CNS response from the OP's point of view. I am merely talking about alcohol delivery to the CNS which can be physiologically explained in the average person. Individual tolerances and responses are just that, individual, and would be impossible to generalize.
-Jefe-

 

[Mateo]

I definitely agree with the OP. I feel a very different euphoric effect from the HB versus commercial brew.

Could it be the B vitamins in there?

 

[NorCalAngler]

different bolus, causes different absorbent rates

Unless I missed something in the thread I didn't see any mention of different bolus. We're talking about administering the alcohol in the same way (bolus), which is by drinking it. Are you home brewers using HB enemas? :cross:

I'm not buying the different buzzes from home brew vs. store bought beer of the same or similar ABV and malt profile.

 

[JefeTheVol]

a bolus is an administration of any drug...in this case oral administration of different beverages.

 

[bdleedahl]

I'm not buying the different buzzes from home brew vs. store bought beer of the same or similar ABV and malt profile.

agreed, I'm not buying the different buzzes at all. I always hated when friends would say something like "drinking whiskey makes me crazy" or "whenever i drink whiskey i want to fight" ... such differences in buzzes do not exist

 

[fredthecat]

bumping a way old thread, but because i had an aventinus eisbock for the first time in ages. im in beer hell, south korea and it's a rare, rare occasion when i can get something like this. also homebrew season is just on the verge of beginning.
the buzz i get from this is very, very different from anything else and highly pleasant. to add to this i supposed, the belgians i made last using t-58 gave me a similar, but lesser buzz.
i'd say i get a more openly, mentally active buzz from homebrew and a beer like aventinus (heady, strong, unfiltered).

 

[Boerderij_Kabouter]

i'd say i get a more openly, mentally active buzz from homebrew and a beer like aventinus (heady, strong, unfiltered).

Again, if you consume twice the alcohol in the same volume of liquid, the effects will be different. Aventinus is a 12abv eisbock. That is about 2-3x the etoh of a standard beer and 4x the etoh of a light lager. Fill up a beer bong with three beers, slam it, and you will have the same effect.

 

[Harambe]

I agree that EtOH affects all walks of life a little differently and that, subjectively, to you, it might not matter what bolus of alcoholic beverage you are taking. But to the some others, I merely stated the physiological facts that would explain others' experiences with different beverages. To say its completely neurological and fabricated by your psyche would be naive. I provided physiological facts that would explain the different ammounts of EtOH that would reach your CNS based on the type of bolus ingested and help explain the differences perceived by the OP. I didnt make anything up but again, I cant provide evidence of bolus vs CNS EtOH delivery in the literature, I merely extrapolated on already available evidence involving other drugs. The literature I read doesnt really care about the short term effects of drinking.
-Jefe-

thanks for the factual medical/scientific insight Jefe... this thread has been fun to read while researching buzz differences. especially the people that have no clue what you're talking about essentially disagreeing with you based on their perceptions. It's like the guy that's never even been to college telling his fellow blue collar coworker buddies at work how dumb his doctor is.

 

[bobeer]

I also don't get as bad a hangover when I drink HB

I think it has to do with drinking more yeast in hb and getting those complex B vitamins back that alcohol strips you of.

 

[premington]

I agree with others--this *is* an interesting thread.

I'm no chemist and am certainly no authority on alcohols, except for consuming them. But, I recently had a discussion with the distiller at Black Button Distillery about the "buzz". He's the youngest Master Distiller in the country and runs BB Distillery here in Rochester, NY. He rattled off the chemistry of different alcohols to teach me why there's a difference in a buzz.

Unfortunately, I'm not knowledgeable enough to recite it as he explained it, but it went something like this.

During distillation, three primary alcohols are produced. One has to be removed, since it'll make you blind. Another is often left in, as a money saver for many distilleries that produce a cheaper product. This alcohol (forget the name) is notorious for the hangover you feel the next day.

He was explaining that you can take two bourbons, for example--one cheap and one high end--and drink equal amounts on different days. The cheaper bourbon that's high in this particular alcohol type will leave you feeling sick the next day while the high-end bourbon that had this alcohol type removed will be cleaner. Your "buzz" will be cleaner and your recovery much smoother.

With that in mind, I'd have to wonder what alcohols are produced in a homebrew that produces a different kind of buzz. From what he was telling me, different alcohol types do contribute to the quality of buzz one feels.

Now, our discussion revolved around distilled spirits, so I don't know if this applies to beer fermentation. Someone versed in alcohol chemistry as it relates to fermentation vs. distillation would have to address this.

 

[Owly055]

I've noticed this effect not with homebrew specifically but with different classes of drinks. Red wine often makes me feel tired and irritable whereas a good clean vodka or gin relaxes me. Some high ABV brews give me a "fuzzy" kind of feeling without much buzz... hard to explain. Most good beer gives me a pleasant buzz with a craving for more beer.

I've had very unpleasant effects from red wine also. Usually a tightness in my forehead and bridge of my nose, and often some sharp pain just above my eyes. Not cheap "garbage" wines either. I attribute that to sulfites for lack of anything else to blame it on.
Otherwise beer, wine, whiskey, etc....... all seem to me to have the same effect on me, with the exception of tequila, which is just plain fun!


H.W.