DFH 120 minute clone

[scottland]

The only thing I could recommend would be obtaining an amount of beer for testing, 50ml for example, and mixing it with equal amount of water for sampling, and doubling the results. I know its almost done at this point, but im guessing those samples aren't enjoyable to drink, and that's a lot of DFH120 to be dumping. Awesome thread, I've been inspired.

The samples go right back in the fermenter. My hydrometer, test tube, and turkey baster soak in star stan all day long. That way I can test the gravity twice a day and not worry about wasting all that beer.

 

[scottland]

Fermentation is winding down. 1.022 today. I added another 6oz dextrose brining it back up to 1.025. I actually hope it stops soon. 19-20% ABV with the FG around 1.025 would be perfect.

Current gravities: OG: 1.167, SG: 1.025, ABV: 18.6%

 

[bottlebomber]

The samples go right back in the fermenter. My hydrometer, test tube, and turkey baster soak in star stan all day long. That way I can test the gravity twice a day and not worry about wasting all that beer.

That's a fine idea. Especially with that much alcohol and yeast activity, your chances of infection are very slim.

 

[acefaser]

subscribed. cant wait to see how this one turns out

 

[scottland]

1.022 tonight. I added the last 12oz I had planned, bringing me to 1.028. I'm hoping the yeast choke off half way through that sugar addition.

Current gravities: OG: 1.174 SG: 1.028, ABV: 19.1%

I've got another pound of dextrose if need be. I want the FG north of 1.020, but ABV south of 21%

 

[bottlebomber]

Are you going to be bottle priming this stuff? What are your plans for that?

 

[scottland]

Keg, force carb lightly, then bottle.

 

[bottlebomber]

Do you have a beer gun or something? I want to try to do this, but im going to have to try to bottle prime so I might not get to take it to the max like your doing. That 099 will go to 25% supposedly, and I believe it after seeing what your doing. Any other yeast would have crapped out long ago. However the yeast will be traumatized after this

 

[scottland]

Nope, I just bottle straight from the tap with the pressure turned way down. Works great, I've had beers placed first in comps bottled that way.

Bottling conditioning..... It's possible, ill start with that. You'd want about 1/4 to 1/3 of a cup of dextrose for a 5gal batch worth of Co2. I just have no idea if the yeast would restart at that ABV even if you quit feeding them before stopped. Bottle conditioning definitely adds another layer complexity.

 

[lastsecondapex]

Nope, I just bottle straight from the tap with the pressure turned way down. Works great, I've had beers placed first in comps bottled that way.

Do you just have regular perlick taps? This interests me, I am going to need to do it in the next few months with a imperial stout I made... How much head rolls over the end of the bottle? Where do you fill to?

 

[Zorin]

Are you sure about that? 0.00001mL = 0.01uL No research/reference grade mechanical pipettor can accurately dispense that volume, so I'd be surprised that any sort of plunger-style medical syringe could do that volume.

It's rare to have to use something that small for medication dispensing. I was just giving him an option of going over to the med supply to find something that might be less of an issue when measuring than an eyedropper.

Cheers,
Matt

 

[sfrisby]

Do you just have regular perlick taps? This interests me, I am going to need to do it in the next few months with a imperial stout I made... How much head rolls over the end of the bottle? Where do you fill to?

Do a search on HBT for Bowie Bottler. I got one and it works great.

 

[Jsmith82]

Do you have a beer gun or something? I want to try to do this, but im going to have to try to bottle prime so I might not get to take it to the max like your doing. That 099 will go to 25% supposedly, and I believe it after seeing what your doing. Any other yeast would have crapped out long ago. However the yeast will be traumatized after this

I bottle primed my batch. On a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being normal carbonation, I got about a .5. A more vigorous pour into the glass helps revive what little head you can get without force carbing but without a kegging system, it's just too much to get the yeast going again, or at least it was for me.

On another note though, this beer doesn't really drink like a beer, or to me it doesn't. Because the ABV is so high, the sweetness, the bitterness of the hops, for not getting any carbonation at all bottle priming it's really not all that bad, more like drinking an interesting liquor.

 

[scottland]

Do you just have regular perlick taps? This interests me, I am going to need to do it in the next few months with a imperial stout I made... How much head rolls over the end of the bottle? Where do you fill to?

Picnic taps, but I have a friend with perlicks, and it works fine for him too. The proper way to do it is to use a counter-pressure filler like the bowie bottler, or make a BMBF, but I'm lazy, and my approach works great.

The trick is, turn your co2 down to where the beer barely comes out, like 3-5psi. Also, it helps if the inside of the bottle is still wet with star stan; dry bottles foam more when filled. I get about 1" of foam in the neck of the bottle, always cap on top of the foam.

 

[broadbill]

It's rare to have to use something that small for medication dispensing. I was just giving him an option of going over to the med supply to find something that might be less of an issue when measuring than an eyedropper.

Cheers,
Matt

My point was they don't make syringes capable of dispensing 0.013mL (13uL). I think you and/or your wife are mistaken. At least too my knowledge....just trying to save some folks a trip to a med supply store.

I'm all eyes if you can show me one though

 

[scottland]

Ya, i figured that was a super small drop, and wouldn't be done without a micropipette. I did find a 20ul fixed volume micropipette on ebay for $25. That's only overdosing by a little bit, and i'm sure it's MUCH more accurate than what i'm doing now.

 

[bja]

I'm looking at a catalog from USA Scientific that lists a 0.1-2.5 ul pipette with 0.002 ul increments. It unfortunately costs $199.

 

[scottland]

I'm looking at a catalog from USA Scientific that lists a 0.1-2.5 ul pipette with 0.002 ul increments. It unfortunately costs $199.

Ya, that's out of my price range. But i might consider $25 with $6 shipping.

 

[seabass07]

I use a sterilized paperclip. Dip the tip in OO and let a single drop fall in my starter. I'm sure it's over doing it, but considering that the yeast will use what they can and the rest will end up being decanted off, I don't see an issue with it. Not to mention a single tiny drop will have no ill effects on a 5 gallon batch.

 

[bottlebomber]

Ya, that's out of my price range. But i might consider $25 with $6 shipping.

Seriously? I mean its homebrewing, how scientific does it need to be? (Im really not trying to be rude btw) can't you just take a sewing needle and dip it in, swirl it around in some water and make that part of your starter? I assume that even with this new trick people will still be oxygenating anyway...

 

[scottland]

Seriously? I mean its homebrewing, how scientific does it need to be? (Im really not trying to be rude btw) can't you just take a sewing needle and dip it in, swirl it around in some water and make that part of your starter? I assume that even with this new trick people will still be oxygenating anyway...

Ya, I don't really plan on buying one. $31 is too close in cost to the $50 for an oxygen regulator and wand that I couldn't justify.

 

[scottland]

24hrs later, down to 1.023. Added 10oz of dextrose. It's definitely slowing down.

Current gravities: OG: 1.179, SG: 1.028, ABV: 19.8%

Looks like the 20% barrier won't be a problem.

 

[bottlebomber]

Holy crap. Epic results

 

[Rivenin]

You should send me a bottle... just so I can say what it tastes like in Portland

 

[shafferpilot]

we're all so proud!

 

[bottlebomber]

You should send me a bottle... just so I can say what it tastes like in Portland

Yeah don't forget your buddies that believed in you every step of the way. That never lost faith even when you burned your first batch

 

[lastsecondapex]

24hrs later, down to 1.023. Added 10oz of dextrose. It's definitely slowing down.

Current gravities: OG: 1.179, SG: 1.028, ABV: 19.8%

Looks like the 20% barrier won't be a problem.

Well done! Will you be up for any bottle trades?

 

[scottland]

Well tonight was exciting, the final sugar addition went in. I can't tell you all how excited I am to no longer have to tend to this beer daily.

Gravity at 1.025 tonight. Added the final 6oz of dextrose. I'll let the yeast ferment however much they ferment, I'm done adding sugar. Hopefully it doesn't dip below 1.020, I think that'll be too dry.

OG: 1.182, SG: 1.028, ABV: 20.2%

 

[Jebu1788]

Well tonight was exciting, the final sugar addition went in. I can't tell you all how excited I am to no longer have to tend to this beer daily.

Gravity at 1.025 tonight. Added the final 6oz of dextrose. I'll let the yeast ferment however much they ferment, I'm done adding sugar. Hopefully it doesn't dip below 1.020, I think that'll be too dry.

OG: 1.182, SG: 1.028, ABV: 20.2%

Go man, go! You are an inspiration to us all. I await with eager anticipation for the results... Really. You rock.

 

[scottland]

Thanks for all the nice words guys. I'd really like to say, while this beer is a lot of work, it's pretty easy if you can pay attention to detail. And while I've only tasted hydro samples at this point, there's still a pretty big sense of accomplishment for pulling this beer off.