DFH 120 minute clone

[kosmokramer]

i have 14.6% columbus and 12.8% ctz. 11 pounds of the columbus and 25 of the ctz

 

[Native302]

i have 14.6% columbus and 12.8% ctz. 11 pounds of the columbus and 25 of the ctz

Want to sell any of that CTZ?

 

[kosmokramer]

Want to sell any of that CTZ?

I have been selling it 9 bucks a pound, i also have perle and tettnanger. check out "holy hops batman" in the classifieds. Shipping is flat rate, 2lbs for 6 bucks or up to 6 pounds for 11 bucks.

The little extra money i made is what paid for my ingredients for this brew!

 

[hopcop]

This thing is fermenting nicely at 61*F. Made the 800ml starter with WLP099 today. I'm watching it closely cause I don't have a blow off tube. It seems like its a beast inside there already and now I know what that expression means. I will raise the temp slightly to 64*F in a few days to keep these guys from being sluggish.

 

[smuth10]

I have been selling it 9 bucks a pound, i also have perle and tettnanger. check out "holy hops batman" in the classifieds. Shipping is flat rate, 2lbs for 6 bucks or up to 6 pounds for 11 bucks.

The little extra money i made is what paid for my ingredients for this brew!

kosmokramer - I searched the classified adds and the entire forum and didn't pull anything up for this? Do you have a direct link to where you bought them?

 

[kosmokramer]

kosmokramer - I searched the classified adds and the entire forum and didn't pull anything up for this? Do you have a direct link to where you bought them?

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f16/holy-hops-batman-296435/


Here ya go, feel free to pm or email me. Sorry to the op for takin this a bit off topic

 

[scottland]

i have 14.6% columbus and 12.8% ctz. 11 pounds of the columbus and 25 of the ctz

Columbus and CTZ are the same hop. CTZ stands for Columbus, Tomahawk, Zeus. All trade names for the same thing. Just FYI

 

[kosmokramer]

Columbus and CTZ are the same hop. CTZ stands for Columbus, Tomahawk, Zeus. All trade names for the same thing. Just FYI

I know but both were 44u pound boxes from hop union. One was labeled columbus abd on was labeled ctz. I dont know why hop union would do that but thats how they are labeled from them.


I ordered the warrior but i think imma save it for another batch and use some of the ctz

 

[scottland]

Sorry to the op for takin this a bit off topic

No worries, threads like this typically don't have an issue finding their way back on track.

And holy crap that is a lot of hops

 

[kosmokramer]

OH YEAH!!>>> i had 280 lbs from a brewery...lol i kept 5 of saaz, 5 of northern brewer, still have perle tett, columbus and ctz... i need to brrew some BIG ipas with this columbus

 

[hopcop]

Checked gravity this morning and it's got a huge krausen on it like I've never seen before. SG: 1.030 and tonight I'm going to add the first sugar additions 8oz along with the WLP099. I've decided that I have enough head space to keep it all in the same fermenter. So I think my gravity will be up to 1.090 with that sugar addition. Anybody please feel fee to correct my math.

I may be interested in some hops by the way. Just have to see what I would like if your still selling? I will PM when I'm ready.
Cheers

 

[kosmokramer]

Checked gravity this morning and it's got a huge krausen on it like I've never seen before. SG: 1.030 and tonight I'm going to add the first sugar additions 8oz along with the WLP099. I've decided that I have enough head space to keep it all in the same fermenter. So I think my gravity will be up to 1.090 with that sugar addition. Anybody please feel fee to correct my math.

I may be interested in some hops by the way. Just have to see what I would like if your still selling? I will PM when I'm ready.
Cheers

Sounds good... since this is my next brew, what formula do you use to compute the rising gravity?

 

[scottland]

Sounds good... since this is my next brew, what formula do you use to compute the rising gravity?

Just calculate the dextrose additions. it's 7-8 gravity points per pound of dextrose

 

[hopcop]

I put 1# dextrose in hopvilles calculator and got .008 per pound.

 

[Jsmith82]

it's got a huge krausen on it like I've never seen before.

Sounds about right, the big ol' muffin top krausen cloud - like a brown homebrew trophy

I haven't checked my gravity lately but I assume it's sitting pretty low - it was on track for the goal, at this point if it's stalled there will be no restart - I don't have a reason to open the lid unless completely necessary so my next gravity reading will probably not occur until I start the dryhop process.

Kosmo - that is a !@#$ ton of hops. You should brew a Columbus hop bomb bursting the back end of the boil with massive amounts, then when serving it bring along some pellets and drop one in each beer drank. I've heard of breweries doing this with massive IPAs - kind of a fun idea, sounds like you have enough to spare. We grew columbus last year and I brewed a California steam with it, the taste was okay, I just wish I had more to contribute to the brew at the time.

 

[kickrjason]

The only muffin top you would be proud to have!

 

[hopcop]

Ok so I have a SG:1.034 with a OG:1.090. I added the yeast and 8oz of dextrose.

Here is pic of that muffin!

 

[kosmokramer]

Sounds about right, the big ol' muffin top krausen cloud - like a brown homebrew trophy

I haven't checked my gravity lately but I assume it's sitting pretty low - it was on track for the goal, at this point if it's stalled there will be no restart - I don't have a reason to open the lid unless completely necessary so my next gravity reading will probably not occur until I start the dryhop process.

Kosmo - that is a !@#$ ton of hops. You should brew a Columbus hop bomb bursting the back end of the boil with massive amounts, then when serving it bring along some pellets and drop one in each beer drank. I've heard of breweries doing this with massive IPAs - kind of a fun idea, sounds like you have enough to spare. We grew columbus last year and I brewed a California steam with it, the taste was okay, I just wish I had more to contribute to the brew at the time.

any idea of a recipe? beersmith has the more beer columbus ipa recipe wich uses an oz for bitterin and 4 oz late additions... i was gonna double up the lates and maybe triple dryhop?,,, i dont want to overdo it but as long as i like it, most of my friends are bmc drinkers anyways...lol

 

[kosmokramer]

woo hoo,, just got shipping confirmation,,,, ingredients are on their way! I dont want to rush this brew so maybe two weeks, My bday weekend!!!

 

[hopcop]

Almost had a blow out last night! I had to change the airlock twice. Which means I had to move my fermenter into the shower and the temp dropped to 59*F overnight. I moved it back to its home this morning with hopes of it warming back up to 64*F I hope I didn't lose the WLP099 with the overflow plus I hope I'm not stalling the busy guys. I added the 2nd 8oz of dextrose this morning. SG: 1.024 + 8oz brings me to 1.028 and OG:1.094. Tonight I will add 1# dextrose cause I think the yeast need more stimulation. What do you guys think? Keep with the 8oz additions or go to the 1#?

 

[skeezerpleezer]

Almost had a blow out last night! I had to change the airlock twice. Which means I had to move my fermenter into the shower and the temp dropped to 59*F overnight. I moved it back to its home this morning with hopes of it warming back up to 64*F I hope I didn't lose the WLP099 with the overflow plus I hope I'm not stalling the busy guys. I added the 2nd 8oz of dextrose this morning. SG: 1.024 + 8oz brings me to 1.028 and OG:1.094. Tonight I will add 1# dextrose cause I think the yeast need more stimulation. What do you guys think? Keep with the 8oz additions or go to the 1#?

Sounds like you need to invest in a blowoff tube.

 

[clex25]

Haven't posted here in awhile but I just wanted to add my own update.

Here is the recipe I used

15 2-row
1 victory
0.25 Crystal 60L
2 Dextrose

Time OZ TYPE
90-60 6 Warrior
20-0 2 Amarillo
20-0 2 Simcoe
20-0 2 Citra
15 1 Whirfloc
0 1.5 amarillo
0 1.5 Simcoe
0 5.5 Citra

DRY: Total amount spread out over 5 additions (2 weeks)
4.5 Simcoe
4.5 Amarillo
6 Citra

All the hops except for bittering were whole leaf, and I made the mistake of not using a hop bag! It clogged all my tubes and such, so I had to scoop it out from my brew kettle using a mug and a spaghetti strainer for straining before going into the fermenator.

So that is basically 2lb hops for a 5.5 gal batch!!

I ended up undershooting my target og a little and having to add extra sugar. I was able to bump up my additions to 24oz a day since the yeast were so active. I made a 6L starter for the initial pitch, plus double nutrients and olive oil. For the WLP099, I made a 2L starter with nutrients and OO. I'm not sure if the OO or large starters were the key, but I had a GREAT fermentation. Super active. Added approx 12lb sugar in total to the beer, which has now fermented down to 1.005. My final (OG) is about 1.140 after the sugar additions, which leaves me with approx. 18% abv.

I just removed the trub and hop debris last night and took a taste. I was initially hit with a burst of sweetness, followed by a piney bitterness, which is finally washed away with a warm burst of alcohol.

I think the MASSIVE amount of hops is going to turn out great, but even if this is awesome, I'm not sure I'll make it again due to the enormous amount of time and effort involved in this beer. I would avoid whole leaf hops if possible, but I was only able to buy them by the lb. whole.

I'll be starting the dry hops in several days, and keep you updated.

 

[clex25]

What do you guys think? Keep with the 8oz additions or go to the 1#?

I started with 6oz 2x a day , then immediately bumped up to 12oz, and by the third day I was adding 24oz morning and night. If your gravity is dropping fast, add that sugar! I didn't have any problem with giving the 099 plenty of sugar.

 

[scottland]

1.005! That's what I'm talking about!!!!

Realistically it won't be as dry as 1.005 sounds because of the difference between real attenuation and apparent attenuation. That should be a fantastic beer there, please keep us updated with how it comes out.

 

[hopcop]

I started with 6oz 2x a day , then immediately bumped up to 12oz, and by the third day I was adding 24oz morning and night. If your gravity is dropping fast, add that sugar! I didn't have any problem with giving the 099 plenty of sugar.

Thanks for the info. I bumped it up to 1# tonight. SG:1.020 added 1# dextrose bringing it up to 1.028. OG:1.102. I think I will be adding the rest in pounds with 2 more to go. I hope the FG doesn't get too low. Either way I'm sure it's going to be a good brew.
Cheers!

I think may invest in a blow off tube. The wife isn't too happy with a giant wort bomb.

 

[kosmokramer]

is this brew supposed to be continually hopped like the 60 and 90 or is it different with a 2 hour boil? Im trying to figure out beersmith (Just got it) and plan the brewday

 

[Firebat138]

believe it or not.... its only a 1 hour boil... but sshhhh

 

[kosmokramer]

guess i have ALOT more reading to do before i get to this

 

[hopcop]

I boiled for 120mins. I upped my Sparge to equal enough for the boil off. I did hop additions every 3 mins during the boil. I used 6oz Magnum (4.2g) 3oz Cascade (2.1g) and 3oz Fuggle (2.1g). I did the method of Jsmith. It tasted awesome. I'm going to dry hop the same way. 4oz Cascade, 2oz Magnum and 2oz Fuggle spread out over 2weeks. Currently at SG:1.024 added 1# dextrose OG:1.110.

I really like doing this brew. Unlike my other brews this keeps me on task instead of itching to find the time for another brew day. I still have to bottle a bock I have been lagering for over a month now.

 

[kosmokramer]

What temp are you guys mashing this at?