DC Area Group Buy #10
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... and then you have to boil it...
or you could just use some dme
Both the wort and DME need to be boiled (10-15 minutes) so the differential is 0.
It's only worth the effort if one is brewing already, or needs quite a few gallons of starter wort.
Just wanted to show an (easy) alternative
My [unscientific] method is to just use an extra quart or so of strike water and collect as usual into the kettle. Once mixed up, I fill a plastic container or two with full strength wort and put it in the freezer. When i need wort for a starter, I just thaw that out, cut it with a little water, and boil. Then I clean the containers and put them with my brew gear so I remember to collect some when I brew next.
I really hate working with DME, which seems to have an identity crisis, thinking it is in fact pixie dust and must go airborne before covering everything in the room.
I really hate working with DME, which seems to have an identity crisis, thinking it is in fact pixie dust and must go airborne before covering everything in the room.
the DME needs to be boiled for a minute to sanitize. nasties like SMM (precursor to DMS) have already been boiled off during the extract creation process.
second runnings out of the mash tun need an hour boil to vaporize SMM... or am i missing something? (highly likely)
i'm completely with you on that one. the stuff is pure evil. we live in such a damn humid area, the stuff clumps together as soon as you open the bag. must be nice for those in Arizona, but for us swamp-dwellers it's a pain in the @$$.I really hate working with DME, which seems to have an identity crisis, thinking it is in fact pixie dust and must go airborne before covering everything in the room.
and this that, back to ordering grains... to contradict myself: i'll take 5 lbs of the DME.
We're not making beer so SMMs and DMS are not a concern. Unless someone pours large quantities of starter beer in their fermentors. 
Don't know about you, but I need to boil DME for at least 5 minutes to get it looking like normal wort, not yellow whey. I do use a pot, not a flask to boil in, so it sanitizes the lid and rim area too. One small drop of Fermcap-S keeps the foam down at least.
Kisejohn
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Please put me down for:
1 sack - RAH1002 Rahr Standard 2-Row 50 lb
Also, put me down for the following splits:
5 lbs - (BRI1035) Briess 2-Row Caramel 40L (50 lb)
5 lbs - (CRI1036) Crisp Crystal 60L 25 kg (55 lb)
Cheers,
Kirk
1 sack - RAH1002 Rahr Standard 2-Row 50 lb
Also, put me down for the following splits:
5 lbs - (BRI1035) Briess 2-Row Caramel 40L (50 lb)
5 lbs - (CRI1036) Crisp Crystal 60L 25 kg (55 lb)
Cheers,
Kirk
What a nice detour talking about different method to make starters! I actually did collect some late runnings when I just started brewing and they're still in my freezer. I like the idea of not having to spend money on DME but it is very convenient and I don't have to thaw 2 liters or more...
Please put me down for:
1 sack - RAH1002 Rahr Standard 2-Row 50 lb
Also, put me down for the following splits:
5 lbs - (BRI1035) Briess 2-Row Caramel 40L (50 lb)
5 lbs - (CRI1036) Crisp Crystal 60L 25 kg (55 lb)
Cheers,
Kirk
Welcome to the group!
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Almost missed that line. We desperately need an icon: ON TOPIC!
Added 5# DME.
Any reason funnycreature picked Muntons Extra Light over Briess Pilsner?
I agree on the ease of DME once it's dissolved in the pot. I read somewhere that starters should be closer to 1.030 for optimum growth and least stress. I use 1.035 now.
Almost missed that line. We desperately need an icon: ON TOPIC!
Added 5# DME.
Any reason funnycreature picked Muntons Extra Light over Briess Pilsner?
I agree on the ease of DME once it's dissolved in the pot. I read somewhere that starters should be closer to 1.030 for optimum growth and least stress. I use 1.035 now.
Frits, please pick the DME that we have used previously. I have not preference.
We've always ordered Briess Golden Light. I'll change it to that. Let me know if you want Briess Pilsen instead.
I've been using Briess Pilsen for starters. It has a tad less Carapils/Crystal in it. Not a big difference.
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Sure, make that the Pilsner DME if you want. As long as the other buyer is OK I'm fine
i'm happy with pilsner DME - dryer the better.
Sure, make that the Pilsner DME if you want. As long as the other buyer is OK I'm fine
Thanks guys!
==> Changed to Briess Pilsen DME.
since #9 is closed, i guess i'll have to ask this here:
what are the logistics for tomorrow's split party? when should we show up, what to bring, what (not) to wear (remember - it's after Labor Day, so no white bikinis), etc...
what are the logistics for tomorrow's split party? when should we show up, what to bring, what (not) to wear (remember - it's after Labor Day, so no white bikinis), etc...
Excellent point on the bikinis!
Pickup is at 11am, and usually we can get in at 10am or even earlier, to get a head start on sorting sacks and the 71 splits!
I'll be there at 9:30 with a table, scale, weighting buckets, and the distro labels. Plus the plastic bags I've saved up.
I expect (and hope) to see at least 4 more scales, as usual.
And for all those helping with splitting, bring some bags and/or buckets.
Is Keith bringing more of those nice buckets for us?
reddskinnfan
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I have buckets at my house that Sven could pick up on his way home from work tonight, if not too much trouble. They are multiple different sizes, from Keith. A couple should be given to Ed, since a few were for him from last round.
If I don't forget I can change my route and pick up those buckets tonight. I'm trying to leave work a tad early tonight (maybe 4:30); will that work for you if I am at your place around 5/5:15?
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reddskinnfan
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I should be here.
I'll be coming with my son to help with splits. I'll bring as many buckets as I can fit in the car as well as the shakers and stir plate units. I just got a roll of 3/8id silicone tubing and I have a roll of 1/2id as well along with some 3' pieces for those of you that want some. I think the rolls are 25' or so. If anyone wants to pick up buckets at my house just send me a PM to arrange it.
reddskinnfan
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Always helping others out, Keith. Good man!
Thank you, you're an amazing man!
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Frits and other splitters...just got an email from 3* saying we could get in around 10 if we need to get in early. I plan to get there around 10-10:30. Had a scare because our grain did not arrive until a little while ago. Trying to get the Buy #9 thread re-opened to post there, but it all worked out...whew!
Wow, that's too close for comfort. I'd had guessed the grain was delivered already a few days ago. 9 business days of lead time is barely enough?
Thanks for the heads-up on the splits starting time.
Note to all who do not help with splits:
Pickup is still scheduled for 11am.
reddskinnfan
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Any bag mixups?
Bigbeavk you still grabbing my grain right? Masonjax sorry to bring this back up but what kind of containers do you use for freezing wort for starters? Also assuming you have had good results with doing this? Plan to keep some my next brew day.
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Oops that was supposed to be Ed picking it up, I think.
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