DAP & Fermaid K nutrient schedule help

[DeanRIowa]

This will be my first mead.
My Planned recipe:

• 2 gallons water
• 6 lbs. honey
• Hibiscus Flower
• 2 lbs. frozen mixed berry: Blue Berry, Black Berry, Raspberry
• Lalvin 71B Yeast , rehydrated with GoFerm

Planned nutrient schedule

• 1/8 tsp heaping DAP at 24, 48, 72 hours
• 1/2 tsp Fermaid K at 1/3 break

Does this sound like an appropriate nutrient schedule?
What would I change if I do not use the frozen berries?

thank you,
Dean

 

[DBhomebrew]

That seems like a lot of DAP. Fermaid K has some in there too.

Are you using an established protocol? TOSNA, etc?

 

[DeanRIowa]

I was reading on the GotMead website, but I am a bit confused on the amounts.

 

[Dan O]

If you're using Fermaid K, wait @ least 24 hrs before adding your first addition. DAP is harmful to yeast in that first 24 hrs.

 

[madscientist451]

Planned nutrient schedule

• 1/8 tsp heaping DAP at 24, 48, 72 hours
• 1/2 tsp Fermaid K at 1/3 break

Does this sound like an appropriate nutrient schedule?

Go to the Mead Made Right website and use the TONSA protocol found there. My mead was way better when I started using that method. The only thing I do different is I use a whole pack of dry yeast per gallon of mead.

 

[MightyMosin]

If you're using Fermaid K, wait @ least 24 hrs before adding your first addition. DAP is harmful to yeast in that first 24 hrs.

This is kind of quibbling but I believe that DAP is harmful to yeast while they are budding and creating the yeast walls and is ok with DAP after that point. If dry yeast is rehydrated properly, the DAP will be fine when you pitch the yeast. Now if you use DAP while rehydrating, then they will be affected for sure.

As a general rule of thumb I wouldn't and don't disagree with waiting, especially if the yeast will just be sprinkled on top.

 

[Miraculix]

I wouldn't use dap at all. You got fermaid k, that's way better and contains dap. Throw your dap away and follow the tosna protocol. If you want to step your game up a bit further, invest in some fermaid o and combine this with fermaid k according to the protocol.

 

[DBhomebrew]

• 2 gallons water
• 6 lbs. honey

FYI, as you start looking at calculators. It's usually a volume of must. 6lbs of honey plus however much water it takes to top up to 2 gallons total honey/water solution.

 

[madscientist451]

If you want to step your game up a bit further, invest in some fermaid o and combine this with fermaid k according to the protocol.

Using go-ferm when rehydrating the yeast, and then tempering the yeast before tossing it in will also be a step up.

 

[Dan O]

Using go-ferm when rehydrating the yeast, and then tempering the yeast before tossing it in will also be a step up.

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[Dan O]

FYI, as you start looking at calculators. It's usually a volume of must. 6lbs of honey plus however much water it takes to top up to 2 gallons total honey/water solution.

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[Dan O]

This is kind of quibbling but I believe that DAP is harmful to yeast while they are budding and creating the yeast walls and is ok with DAP after that point. If dry yeast is rehydrated properly, the DAP will be fine when you pitch the yeast. Now if you use DAP while rehydrating, then they will be affected for sure.

As a general rule of thumb I wouldn't and don't disagree with waiting, especially if the yeast will just be sprinkled on top.

Agreed. Thank you for describing this better than I did. My post lacked the details.

 

[grommetik]

Using go-ferm when rehydrating the yeast, and then tempering the yeast before tossing it in will also be a step up.

Tempering? Do you mean bringing the yeast slurry down to must temp?

 

[MX1]

There is also a guide to SNA on Mead Making 101 — You To Brew
Not that there is anything wrong at all with the TOSNA CALCULATOR | Mead Made Right

Just an extra tool for the box