Cream Ale Cream of Three Crops (Cream Ale)

[msa8967]

I have read a lot of this thread throughout the last couple months here and there and have even brewed this beer 2! Great stuff! just wondering for those that have brewed with Kolsch and safale-us 05, which do you prefer of the two?

Thanks so much! Recipe is great!

I just made this today. 12 gallons split into three 4 gallon batches. US-05, White labs American Ale and Kolsch. I really like this with US-05 and American ale yeast, but this will be the first time with Kolsch style yeast.

 

[DerrangedPOJO]

I have read a lot of this thread throughout the last couple months here and there and have even brewed this beer 2! Great stuff! just wondering for those that have brewed with Kolsch and safale-us 05, which do you prefer of the two?

Thanks so much! Recipe is great!

I prefer us-05 over kolsch. However you need to try nottingham i thought it was better!

 

[shadows69]

Here's to all the Cream of Three Crops brewers!!

 

[shadows69]

One more!

 

[MarcusKillion]

Almost opened up the fermenter on my special version of this just so I could taste it . But better sense prevailed and I will leave it for another week until I have time to bottle it . Unless I do not work tomorrow then it is on . I really want to taste it .

 

[Matteo57]

Anyone try using brett to ferment this out and see how it tastes? Any thoughts on it? I was thinking of using Mosaic... throwing brett in, letting it sit then POSSIBLY dry hopping it with a small bit of mosaic for a few days....

 

[yewtah-brewha]

Cream Ale Recipe

This is a very simple, inexpensive cream ale recipe that will get every BMC drinker in the room enjoying homebrew. So named because of the three different crops that go into the grist (Barley, Corn and Rice).

I brewed up 10 gallons of this and after kegging, bottled up a case to take to a family event (Mothers Day). Even my 78-yr old FIL, who is strict Miller Lite drinker, ended up having two pints. The chics dug it and we ran out well before the end of the evening.

The grain bill is cheap and in this case, you can use Minute Rice instead of flaked rice. No step mashing required. Simply combine the ingredients and follow a simple single infusion mash at around 152 degrees. I also mashed this for 90 minutes to get a highly attenuated beer. FG was 1.005...leaving a very dry, crisp beer with no noticeable graininess.

While this doesn't adhere to the strict beer laws, and I don't consider this one of my "craft" efforts, it is without a doubt the beer that I get the most "you really made this beer?" comments.

So if you've got some hard core "If it ain't Budweiser it ain't beer…" drinking friends…give this a try.

This beer clears up quickest of any of my recipes.

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Batch Size: 11.50 gal
Boil Size: 14.26 gal
Estimated OG: 1.040 SG
Estimated Color: 2.9 SRM
Estimated IBU: 14.3 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.0 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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12.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)
4.00 lb Corn, Flaked (1.3 SRM)
1.00 lb Minute Rice (1.0 SRM)

1.00 oz Williamette [5.20%] (60 min)
1.00 oz Crystal [3.50%] (60 min)

where do u get corn flaked?

 

[Channel66]

where do u get corn flaked?

Lhbs should have it.

 

[branman]

If you have a mill can you just run whole corn through it? If not why would this not work...

 

[MarcusKillion]

Whole corn is very hard and large . It would tear up your grain mill . It needs to be more of a grinding and crushing instead of milling . A real good food processor might work. A corona mill could do the job most likely. It also needs the starches gelatinized with a good hot cereal mash I think . Also use field corn not sweet.

Seems to me that for small batches flaking your own might be not the best bet as you buy the corn $ then you buy some grains to add in the cereal mash $$$ Then the time to mash and I guess allow to dry if your making more than you can use in one batch ? Mill . I think I would just buy them but I could be wrong on this as I have not added up the cost of everything .

 

[MarcusKillion]

where do u get corn flaked?

If you can not get it at LHBS then use some corn meal . I would put a paint strainer around my false bottom if I used them as they are so fine I bet they clog up the filter.

 

[Channel66]

Purty purty

 

[Runyanka]

Purty purty

Purdy

 

[MarcusKillion]

Channel66 That is one very artistic pic . Would make a great poster

 

[Sippin37]

Clearest brew I have made to date! Thanks again for the recipe.

 

[msa8967]

Has anyone tried making this recipe using Vienna malt for the base malt instead of pale malt? Someone gave me a bag of Vienna and I want to try some different recipes with it.

 

[sacrifice]

Just did my 5th batch of this beer. Since the second batch I have used half 2-row and half Belgian Pilsner, and whatever appropriate hops I have around. Today was Williamette and Fuggles, a combination which I have used before and liked - Licked the hydrometer and it was quite nice!

 

[mux11]

First batch is being consumed as we speak - I did all 2-row and home grown Nugget hopps. So far Im enjoying it.. Couple questions though.

I seem to have chill haze. Where it is clear up till i chill it for drinking then gets cloudy. what causes this? cold break ? Hot break??

I have also noticed a flavor like double mint gum - would this be yeast I am tasting?

My second batch I cooked up yesterday with half 2-row and half carmel malts with an addition of toasted carmel, 2-row blend. No Idea what it will taste like just got inspired to do something off the wall. Any ideas on flavor profile? Good idea or bad?

 

[MarcusKillion]

New review ... After these beers sit in the bottle for about a month they are great . I usually drink them up fast but had a lot of other beers so they conditioned longer . the corn taste is gone and they have a bit of sweet flavor like a honey blonde and are very tasty indeed .
I am no longer just enjoying them on hot lawnmower days but am drinking them while kicking back in the AC . Just slammed down three in the last hour .
One real good thing also is the fact that with this beer you have a whole lot less trub and that equates to a lot more beer in the end . It is a win win .

 

[thisisbeer]

Dumb question maybe. This was my first all grain and my first recipe using corn. Now its fermented down to 1.012 the og was 1.045. It has a very strong corn taste when I tried a sample. It was pretty over powering. I didnt boil with a lid on and did a 90 minute boil. Will this mellow with age or does this beer just taste strongly of corn.

 

[Channel66]

Dumb question maybe. This was my first all grain and my first recipe using corn. Now its fermented down to 1.012 the og was 1.045. It has a very strong corn taste when I tried a sample. It was pretty over powering. I didnt boil with a lid on and did a 90 minute boil. Will this mellow with age or does this beer just taste strongly of corn.

It'll mellow. Or at least in my experience it does. This beer is ready fast and being a low abv beer people think it should be drank fast but it does stay "green" for a bit. Or at least in my experience. It'll mellow with a bit of time

 

[thisisbeer]

good to hear. I'll let it secondary for a while.

 

[Fuzzymittenbrewing]

It'll mellow. Or at least in my experience it does. This beer is ready fast and being a low abv beer people think it should be drank fast but it does stay "green" for a bit. Or at least in my experience. It'll mellow with a bit of time

Is a long secondary a good solution or does it need to be bottle conditioning?

 

[Channel66]

Is a long secondary a good solution or does it need to be bottle conditioning?

I'd imagine either would work, in secondary it may work faster because it can actually off gas. I have noticed about 1.5 months in the bottle most of strong corn/dms is mostly gone.

 

[MarcusKillion]

I only let this beer sit in fermenter for a week or two opposed to three weeks for stronger beers . this does leave it with a corn taste . But as I posted yesterday after 1 month in bottle this stuff tastes great . Secondary for a couple weeks perhaps then bottle and try one in a week .

I made some with more crystal hops and little vienna and only fermented for two weeks and bottled for one and it tastes horrible . Like bad fruit taste . But that is what happens to others like centennial in my opinion so after a few weeks in bottle I bet it is tasty .
got some more going with a lot of hops in it . Cant wait

 

[n240sxguy]

What are you folks using for flaked corn? Like cornmeal, or what?

 

[Fuzzymittenbrewing]

What are you folks using for flaked corn? Like cornmeal, or what?

Does your lhbs not carry flaked corn?

 

[n240sxguy]

Does your lhbs not carry flaked corn?

I don't have a lhbs within 2 hours of me. I usually order all my stuff online. A couple local liquor stores are expanding out into some homebrew supplies. I haven't seen any corn there though.

 

[Fuzzymittenbrewing]

I don't have a lhbs within 2 hours of me. I usually order all my stuff online. A couple local liquor stores are expanding out into some homebrew supplies. I haven't seen any corn there though.

Ah I see. If I'm not mistaken some have used corn grits. But not 100% what the conversion is

 

[n240sxguy]

Ok. I looked it up online. I'll have to tack some on my next order I guess.