Cream Ale Cream of Three Crops (Cream Ale)

[CPooley4]

You have to set your efficiency on the brewing calculators to what your system produces.From the ingredients you used and your OG it looks like you got around 52% efficiency.Your calculator is probably set at 75% efficiency by default which = the 1.055OG you came up with.

I see where I'm confused. BM's recipe was for 11.5 gallons and I was assuming it was a 10 gallon recipe. Guess we were a bit more off than I thought, but maybe that's a good thing since we'll be closer to his recipe than if we had hit 75%.

 

[MgMt_Home_Brew]

Minute rice is precooked which means it is pre-gelatinized.

Raw rice won't work.

I have some Enriched Long Grain Parboiled Rice, is that the same as minute rice?

In ProMash when I cut the recipe down to 5.5 gallons I get this:
5.5# Pale Malt
2# Flaked Maize
.5# Rice

Is that enough rice?

Thanks

 

[Yambor44]

ok finally broke down and bought the ingredients and this will be my first all grain. question for everyone. i have two coolers. a 5 gallon and a 12 gallon square cooler. will this grain bill fit in the 5 gallon? or should i convert the 12gallon? BTW this is for a 10 gallon batch

With a 10 gallon grain bill you would need 4.5 gallons of mash water at 1.25 qts per pound of grain. So I would say definitely not by the time you add your grains.

Go with the 12 gallon cooler and use 1.5 qts/gallon.

 

[pen25]

thats what i thought yambor. looks like this is what ill be doing this week is converting the 12 gallon and prep for the thursday brew

 

[cimirie]

I have some Enriched Long Grain Parboiled Rice, is that the same as minute rice?

In ProMash when I cut the recipe down to 5.5 gallons I get this:
5.5# Pale Malt
2# Flaked Maize
.5# Rice

Is that enough rice?

Thanks

No, parboiled rice will not work. Parboiled isn't pre-gelatinized b/c it is not precooked. If you're wondering about rice, if it doesn't say "minute rice" clearly on the box, it's not what you're looking for.

Good luck!!!

 

[MgMt_Home_Brew]

No, parboiled rice will not work. Parboiled isn't pre-gelatinized b/c it is not precooked. If you're wondering about rice, if it doesn't say "minute rice" clearly on the box, it's not what you're looking for.

Good luck!!!

Thanks Cimirie. I ended up going to my LHBS and talking to the woman there. She said basically the same thing about needing it pre-gelatinized. She said they usually carry some rice that was pre-gelatinized but they were out of it.

I brewed this yesterday with basically everything cut in half and I think I hit 78% efficiency which is good for me but I expected better since others who made this seemed to get pretty good efficiency.

However I hit an OG of 1.044 which I was really happy with since this was my 4th OG batch and I have been getting pretty good efficiency the last batch or two.

My hydro sample was the lightest color it has ever been so I am looking forward to kegging and tapping this one.

Thanks BM for the recipe!

 

[Scut_Monkey]

I brewed this one week ago today. Like others I received an effeciency that made me do a double take. It came to an effeciency of 91.1% which was extremely satisfying because I have been struggling with effeciency since starting AG. This was my fourth AG and my lowest grain bill. I mashed for 90 minutes like the recipe states and I lautered twice with the grist reaching ~160F. What surprised me with the effeciency was that I did not hit my mash temperature and was in fact 5 degrees colder than the recipe states. I also use ph 5.2, iodine testing, a very fine crush and 10-15 minutes with spage water allowing any additional conversion.

Regardless, it's fermenting great and definately has a very clean malt taste which is what Biermuncher stated. Should turn out very nice and I'm anxious to give it a try. Thanks for the great recipe!

 

[MgMt_Home_Brew]

I checked mine yesterday when i got home from work and it looked like the krauzen had already come and gone. This suprised me since I checked it in the morning too and there was just little spots on the top.

I know this is a pretty like beer so I expected it to be a quick fermentation but I didn't expect it to rip through over night.

I didn't take a gravity reading because I plan on leaving it for a couple weeks anyway but I am just curious. How fast did your krauzen come and go?

 

[cimirie]

It took longer than your 10 hours at work. I think mine lasted about 2 days so not too long. You mentioned in an earlier post that you cut everything in half... Stupid question, but did you do a 2.5 gallon batch? I ask because that's what I did which may have something to do with the difference in krausen timing.

In any case, I wouldn't worry too much and by the sounds of it, you aren't. It's a fairly "fool-proof" brew (if there is such a thing). Enjoy it!

 

[MgMt_Home_Brew]

It took longer than your 10 hours at work. I think mine lasted about 2 days so not too long. You mentioned in an earlier post that you cut everything in half... Stupid question, but did you do a 2.5 gallon batch? I ask because that's what I did which may have something to do with the difference in krausen timing.

In any case, I wouldn't worry too much and by the sounds of it, you aren't. It's a fairly "fool-proof" brew (if there is such a thing). Enjoy it!

I did cut everything in half but I did a 5 gallon batch so I am guessing that your OG was significantly higher than 1.044?

Your right I am not worried I was just suprised thats all. Maybe I will take a reading this weekend and see where I am at. It was funny though cause I checked it when I got home and it looked like it was still trying to kick up but then I noticed the ring around the bucket from the krauzen. So it had to have fermented out pretty quickly.

I did have some issues with my mash temp being a little lower so I added some H20 to bring it back up and then it didn't stay up. So my mash could have been a little thin and a couple degrees lower than desired.

Time will tell I guess

 

[cimirie]

Mgt-

Actually, my OG was't significantly higher than 1.040. I got 90% efficiency and came out with 1.050. What was your efficiency?

At any rate, you're batch will come out well. A mash on the thinner side will lead to a thinner body, which is actually probably better for this style. I wish mine was thinner.

 

[MgMt_Home_Brew]

my efficiency was 78%.

 

[bull8042]

Don't sweat the higher efficiencies. I had made several changes to my system, and instead of my normal 70%, I hit 84%. I was quite happy about that, but this brew came in a little under 5% which was a bit higher than I wanted for a session beer.
Didn't matter in the least, this is a freakin' awesome brew.

 

[MgMt_Home_Brew]

So apparently my batch did not ferment out in a day. :cross:

I checked it yesterday and there was an actual krauzen ring. What I saw earlier must have been from the foam when I poured it in. When i saw it I thought it was a pretty light ring but i just figured that was how it was since it was a light beer. But no I was wrong. I had a day or two lag time and then it kicked in... I can't wait to get this one kegged and in the on deck circle for my kegerator

 

[RCCOLA]

Took some of this batch to my physical therapist on Monday.He was sceptical about homebrew having tasted some crappy homemade wine.Normally drinks miller lite.His main worry was about the carbonation being normal???
Went in today for therapy and he was all smiles.Genuinely loved it so much that he told his wife he wanted a brewing starter kit for his anniversary gift.
Hooked another one!!:rockin:

 

[BierMuncher]

...Genuinely loved it so much that he told his wife he wanted a brewing starter kit for his anniversary gift.
Hooked another one!!:rockin:

Excellent!!!!

 

[MgMt_Home_Brew]

I'm drinking my last glass of this brew right now....

I guess the time to make another batch was a few weeks ago...

 

[android]

just wanted to chime in with a picture of the finished product. thank you so much BM for this recipe... had a party last weekend for the big 3-0 and the cream ale was a hit. there was only about 1/2 gallon left afterwards and the beer got REALLY clear in that last half gallon. here's a pic of it!

i mentioned this before, but this came out at 6.2% ABV and was deceivingly drinkable.

 

[BierMuncher]

...6.2% ABV...deceivingly drinkable.

Well somebody had to have gotten lucky that night.

 

[android]

i plead the fifth... and by that, i mean 'yes sir, someone did'.

 

[kice]

Should be fine. Let us know how it tastes. I'll bet great!

Surprisingly it turned out great. Even with the yeast issue. The yeast arrived the following Monday with an "ooops" letter attached. >< All is well though - and now I have some extra yeast so I guess its a win-win.

 

[Scut_Monkey]

I just bottled some of this last night. The FG was 1.006 and it started at an OG of 1.052. Like others have stated this really seemed to ferment very quickly with the US-05 yeast especially when I had it in the basement at an ambient temp of ~62%. It seems to taste great and should be a great beer for camping and boating. It doesn't seem like I will have the clarity that others have shown in their pictures but honestly that never bothers me. I sometimes feel a more turbid looking beer has more character as long as it's not contributing off flavors. I have some Irish moss but really haven't felt the desire to use it. Oh well, I'll let you guys know how it turns out in a couple weeks.

 

[JesseRC]

Mine came out pretty strong due to the addition of half pound of Cane sugar and a little more rice. 6.5% ABV. 3 of these and I am buzzing on an empty stomach. Its mellowing out really nicely. SWMBO loves it. Next time I will make it as per recipe just to see the difference.

 

[kice]

When this first started I thought it looked like such an odd color but over time it really does evolve.

The last 3 pics are after we tossed it into the secondary - unfortunately we
had some spillage. No worries tho =)


Click to enlarge.

 

[brewjunky]

I just did this recipe but tweaked it abit because I did not have 4lbs or Corn.

I did 2lbs corn 2lbs of minuet rice 1lb of that being hole grain rice. The other 1lb white rice.

I used 2oz of Williemette because I did not have the Crystal hops.

I also added .75 lb of cane sugar.

I split the grain bill in half with 50% 2-row and 50% Plisner Malt.

I will post a picture soon.

 

[Schlenkerla]

I'm brewing this sucker tomorrow... I'm gonna add amylase enzyme (AE) to this beer for a high AG extraction. Then use AE to dry this one out to 1.000

 

[JesseRC]

THis stuff really grows on you. I really like it.

 

[android]

THis stuff really grows on you. I really like it.

agreed, i can't wait to brew it again.

 

[Schlenkerla]

THis stuff really grows on you. I really like it.

Dat ist vhy I du it again. Its sehr gut! Oh yah, its sehr gut....

Geben sie mir ein drei getreide, bitte.....[give me a 3 crop, please.]
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[Schlenkerla]

Got another batch of this cranking away.