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jvend

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If I fill bottles with a counter pression filler, how much time do I have to wait to drink it? How much time it takes to mix CO2 with beer and else inside the bottle?
 
Not to sure what you are referring to when you say counter pression filler.

There are counterpressure fillers which are used to fill carbonated beer from a keg into a botttle. Blichman Beergun is an example of this and there is at least one DIY beergun on the forum. The use of one of these assumes you have the kegging equipment necessary. And the beer can be drank immediately or capped and drank later.

If you are referring force carbing beer in a bottle it's a little different but assumes you have some access to regulated CO2 and a carbonater type of cap. Using this method I would imagine is much like force carbing a keg and it will take time for the CO2 to get into solution. Although you could probably shake the bottle to speed things along.
 
Maybe im confused, but I thought counter pression filling was that you could take beer, place it on a bottle and inyect CO2 with the level of carbonation you want and then let it settle and drink it. Isnt that how big breweries do it?
 
Nope. Its carbed in bright tanks and then bottled/kegged after. It should be ready to go as soon as you can drink it. I bottle with a CP filler and drink it that night. I would chill the bottles and filler to reduce foaming.
 
abarhan said:
Nope. Its carbed in bright tanks and then bottled/kegged after. It should be ready to go as soon as you can drink it. I bottle with a CP filler and drink it that night. I would chill the bottles and filler to reduce foaming.

What do you mean by it should be ready to go as you can drink it. Also, how can you bottle and drink that same night, shouldnt you leave time for it to mix co2 with the beer? How you do it?
 
No need to wait. Carbonated beer is what is being transferred into the bottles. Not flat beer.
 
And in big breweries, once they get the beer in bright tanks and add up the CO2, They have to wait for it a week to mix too and then they bottle?
 
Not sure their exact method but unless the beer is bottle conditioned to carb up, it is alredy carbed in another vessel and then just transferred into a bottle or keg.

The general adaption for home brewing is to take beer from a keg that is fully carbonated, dropping the pressure input down to a few psi, connecting a tube to the tap faucet and transferrring this beer into the bottle. The counterpressure device allows beer to go into a bottle where the oxygen has been replaced with CO2 and the CO2 gets pushed out as the beer fills the bottle.
 
And in big breweries, once they get the beer in bright tanks and add up the CO2, They have to wait for it a week to mix too and then they bottle?

No they don't have to wait a week, but they typically use diffusion stones/plates in the bottom of the brite tanks and pump CO2 into the beer at high pressure through the diffuser. Due to the tiny size of the CO2 bubbles they dissolve much faster into solution than the traditional homebrewing process, so it typically only takes a matter of hours rather than days or weeks.
 
Here's a video to give you an idea of what a counter pressure filler is.

 
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My super cheap alternative is a 7 inch piece of 3/4 hose hooked to my viper head and stuck in the bottle, just got to watch how hard you press the tap
 
Here's a video to give you an idea of what a counter pressure filler is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orpfub1Q-AI&feature=related

Perfect, not the beer is already carbed up and drinkable before its bottled. All you are doing is placing the beer in a container at this point, while keeping some of the oxidation down. Think of it as just moving the finished product to a different container like a keg to bottle transfer. I keg most of my batched and bottle a few now and then to take to people, its already carbed and ready to go.
 
Not sure how breweries carbonate but I worked going on 30 years bottling soft drinks and the product is carbonated under pressure and chilled as well before the bottle filler. It's ready to drink as soon as it's filled. I'd imagine brewies do the same thing. Chilling reduces foaming while filling.
 
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