Coors Light? Any Suggestions

[BlueSunshine]

Back on topic:

Is there any real way to homebrew a "light" beer? I mean light beers are pretty much "diet beers" and their lower calorie content is one of their main selling points, but can we as home brewer really control calorie content?

 

[brewagentjay]

Don't buy coors!!!!

F the big 3. If he has to have a light beer like coors (hang on, I just threw up in my mouth) make something close to it but better.

But for god's sake, dont give BMC any of your hard earned money. There are plenty of sheep out there who will already do that.

Please post comments like this in some other thread or start a BMC bashing thread. I honestly like my brother-in-law. He is a simple guy who likes what he likes. I offer him other beers and he drinks them but he really likes Coors Light. He asked me to make him something similar and I want to try it. I get practice which he is paying for and he gets something different.

Thanks to all who have given some good information. :rockin:

 

[Synovia]

I think if you can try something with an open mind and then form an opinion, it doesn't make you a snob to dislike it. When people refuse to eat Asian food because they dislike it, they're not called food snobs nor are the people that enjoy that kind of food...For some reason beer does not fall into that logic and someone's preference automatically makes them a snob. It doesn't make much sense to me.

Its not about preference. Its about telling someone they're somehow inferior because they like something you don't. Thats what makes you a snob.


Nobody gives a **** if you like BMC. When you tell other people they shouldn't like it, thats when you become a snob.

 

[josiahcox]

I wasn't bashing his love of coors- I was bashing the huge corperation that makes the beer.
Sheesh, I even said brew somthing like it for him.
Other people had suggested that you just buy him some Coors. My response was that you should absolutely NOT do that and that you should brew him something your self rather that promote a huge corp.
I was going to post up links to coors recipes but I guess you have it covered.

 

[giligson]

Back on topic:

Is there any real way to homebrew a "light" beer? I mean light beers are pretty much "diet beers" and their lower calorie content is one of their main selling points, but can we as home brewer really control calorie content?

Of course you can control calorie content:
alcohol has a set calorie content
residual sugars have a set calories

If you use a brew software like Beersmith the calories per serving are autocalculated for you.

I did an Ordinary bitter a while back that could be considered a light beer at 50 cal per bottle.

 

[BlueSunshine]

Of course you can control calorie content:
alcohol has a set calorie content
residual sugars have a set calories

If you use a brew software like Beersmith the calories per serving are autocalculated for you.

I did an Ordinary bitter a while back that could be considered a light beer at 50 cal per bottle.

Sounds like I need to acquire Beersmith!

 

[slowbie]

Its not about preference. Its about telling someone they're somehow inferior because they like something you don't. Thats what makes you a snob.


Nobody gives a **** if you like BMC. When you tell other people they shouldn't like it, thats when you become a snob.

I agree to an extent. However, BlueSunshine has a point because many of the BMC-loving masses here in America will consider you to be a snob if you refuse to drink BMC and insist on buying "fancy" beer. I think the root cause of this is the fact that America thinks that beer comes in two varieties, BMC and light BMC. In my opinion, this means that when you say no thanks to the BMC offered to you and instead bring [insert favorite beer here] along it's as if you are going to Applebees or some other perfectly respectable restaurant and insist on bringing Emeril to make filet mignon for you.

 

[DKershner]

In my opinion, this means that when you say no thanks to the BMC offered to you and instead bring [insert favorite beer here] along it's as if you are going to Applebees or some other perfectly respectable restaurant and insist on bringing Emeril to make filet mignon for you.

I would do this too if he could be rented for the same cost as an applebee's meal.

 

[Synovia]

I agree to an extent. However, BlueSunshine has a point because many of the BMC-loving masses here in America will consider you to be a snob if you refuse to drink BMC and insist on buying "fancy" beer. I think the root cause of this is the fact that America thinks that beer comes in two varieties, BMC and light BMC. In my opinion, this means that when you say no thanks to the BMC offered to you and instead bring [insert favorite beer here] along it's as if you are going to Applebees or some other perfectly respectable restaurant and insist on bringing Emeril to make filet mignon for you.

Eh. Maybe Michigan is significantly backwards.


I don't drink BMC in most cases, and I've never been accused of being a beer snob. Most likely, the people who are getting called snobs, its got nothing to do with the beer you're drinking, but how you present yourself.

 

[brewagentjay]

I wasn't bashing his love of coors- I was bashing the huge corperation that makes the beer.
Sheesh, I even said brew somthing like it for him.
Other people had suggested that you just buy him some Coors. My response was that you should absolutely NOT do that and that you should brew him something your self rather that promote a huge corp.
I was going to post up links to coors recipes but I guess you have it covered.

Sorry but I also don't agree with bashing BMC the companies either.....They are selling a product that people want to buy and also are slowly but surely bring different beers to market.....I'm not a big fan of any big company but I can't bash them as they are doing what all companies strive to do...Make money and sell their product to as many as they can.....

 

[McKBrew]

Don't buy coors!!!!

F the big 3. If he has to have a light beer like coors (hang on, I just threw up in my mouth) make something close to it but better.

But for god's sake, dont give BMC any of your hard earned money. There are plenty of sheep out there who will already do that.

And don't give money to Redhook, Widmer, Goose Island or Kona Brewing as they are partially owned by AB.

I'm sure there are more.

 

[brewagentjay]

If I like something I'm going to buy it no matter what company is sellign it.

 

[MeatyPortion]

Even if I like something I'll still look at what the broader company interests are. It's just how I roll.

 

[brewagentjay]

Even if I like something I'll still look at what the broader company interests are. It's just how I roll.

That's cool and I respect you for it.....I just give up on holding to my principals when it comes to big companies....Just doesn't work. Now if Coors or any other company was to do something horrible then I'd jump on it but I personally don't see the issues with the BMC guys at all here.

If someone else has information about why they are so bad I'm all ears....:rockin:

 

[brewagentjay]

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/cheers-163313/

This post is much more interesting.............

 

[cabot]

Those of you with Netflix should really check out "Beer Wars". (it is available on-demand!)

It's a documentary about beer in the United States, and it talks in length about how tough BMC makes it for smaller, craft beers to come to market. It's definitely biased, but interesting nonetheless, and I learned a lot of things I had never known about. Specifically the three tiered system and how BMC uses it to their advantage to keep the little guys off of store shelves. Boo hiss *sip of coors light* grumble hum haw!

Good luck making the light beer man. I second going for Edworts Haus Pale Ale, I've made it about 6 times so far and I can never seem to keep it around for more than a few weeks. The stuff is definitely a crowd pleaser!

 

[MeatyPortion]

That's cool and I respect you for it.....I just give up on holding to my principals when it comes to big companies....Just doesn't work. Now if Coors or any other company was to do something horrible then I'd jump on it but I personally don't see the issues with the BMC guys at all here.

If someone else has information about why they are so bad I'm all ears....:rockin:

I'll spare you what I've heard and learned about Coors; the info's out there and I really don't like preaching to people. I'm not saying that this philosophy works 100% of the time. That would be damn near impossible; I'm just saying that when it comes to certain commodities that I try to vote with my conscience.

 

[ReverendTap]

The thing about "beer snobbery" is it does go both ways. I find it's a rare person who drinks Guinness and has never been offered a fork with their beer, I too saw the "bitter beer face" commercials, I've gotten looked at askance for ordering non-BMC beer (no snippy comments, just ordering) in certain bars, etc. Now, I do try to avoid being a snob; don't like the industrial offerings, but I certainly enjoyed a glass of Killian's back in the day and still have a soft spot for Mickey's (which, by the way, is just about the best cooking beer ever). No sense in being a hypocrite. However, I do have a beef with BMC for actively promoting people's misconceptions about beer. I've known people who claim in all seriousness that fuller-bodied or darker ales aren't beer, and even my dad, who lives on New Belgium's doorstep and pretty much only drinks craft beer, insists that all beers are supposed to be served at a degree or two above freezing. I don't much care for the fact that I have to continually argue with people who tell me I'm doing things wrong because I don't do them like BMC do.
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Is there any real way to homebrew a "light" beer? I mean light beers are pretty much "diet beers" and their lower calorie content is one of their main selling points, but can we as home brewer really control calorie content?

I actually read a study done not that long ago comparing the actual caloric content of light beers to their "heavy" counterparts. Don't remember where it was so I can't link it right now, but for many of the BMC offerings, the difference was pretty insignificant; one of the major light beers actually had more calories than the "heavy" version! Ultimately, a light beer is more about having less body and cleaner flavor than calories, IMO.

 

[McKBrew]

Very valid point. There are more than a few BMC drinkers who call craft and micro beer crap too. Sometimes I think those people tend to be just as snobbish as they are completely unwilling to try anything new, but have no problem bashing it. At least I've tried BMC. Actually have some pretty interesting drunk memories as a result.

The thing about "beer snobbery" is it does go both ways. I find it's a rare person who drinks Guinness and has never been offered a fork with their beer, I too saw the "bitter beer face" commercials, I've gotten looked at askance for ordering non-BMC beer (no snippy comments, just ordering) in certain bars, etc. Now, I do try to avoid being a snob; don't like the industrial offerings, but I certainly enjoyed a glass of Killian's back in the day and still have a soft spot for Mickey's (which, by the way, is just about the best cooking beer ever). No sense in being a hypocrite. However, I do have a beef with BMC for actively promoting people's misconceptions about beer. I've known people who claim in all seriousness that fuller-bodied or darker ales aren't beer, and even my dad, who lives on New Belgium's doorstep and pretty much only drinks craft beer, insists that all beers are supposed to be served at a degree or two above freezing. I don't much care for the fact that I have to continually argue with people who tell me I'm doing things wrong because I don't do them like BMC do.
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I actually read a study done not that long ago comparing the actual caloric content of light beers to their "heavy" counterparts. Don't remember where it was so I can't link it right now, but for many of the BMC offerings, the difference was pretty insignificant; one of the major light beers actually had more calories than the "heavy" version! Ultimately, a light beer is more about having less body and cleaner flavor than calories, IMO.

 

[Reddheadedstepchild]

Beer snobery is all about attitude and presentation. Thats why im much more of what I would consider a beer nerd. I love beer, I wanna know as much as I can about beer and how its made. Its simple there are alot of beers that I dont like the flavor of but I dont go around acting like an ****** about my opinion. So there fore i strive to be a BEER NERD.

 

[brewagentjay]

Beer snobery is all about attitude and presentation. Thats why im much more of what I would consider a beer nerd. I love beer, I wanna know as much as I can about beer and how its made. Its simple there are alot of beers that I dont like the flavor of but I dont go around acting like an ****** about my opinion. So there fore i strive to be a BEER NERD.

:rockin: I agree 120 proof

 

[Bernie Brewer]

beer snobery is all about attitude and presentation. Thats why im much more of what i would consider a beer nerd. I love beer, i wanna know as much as i can about beer and how its made. Its simple there are alot of beers that i dont like the flavor of but i dont go around acting like an ****** about my opinion. So there fore i strive to be a beer nerd.

winner!!!!!!!!!

 

[Synovia]

It's a documentary about beer in the United States, and it talks in length about how tough BMC makes it for smaller, craft beers to come to market.

BMC uses this stuff to their advantage because our government allows it, and as such, capitalism mandates it.


BMC is publicly shared, and as such, required to make as much money as they can. The problem is our government lets them set up a cartel essentially (like the oil companies).




As to Beer Snobbery, I've seen a lot more of it from the craft brew folks than the BMC folks.

 

[brewagentjay]

....to live in a world where we can just like beer for the beer and not who or how it's made................

 

[BlueSunshine]

And don't give money to Redhook, Widmer, Goose Island or Kona Brewing as they are partially owned by AB.

I'm sure there are more.

Oh yeah.... you bet there are:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InBev_brands

That doesn't even cover the companies they have stake in.

 

[brewagentjay]

Oh yeah.... you bet there are:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InBev_brands

That doesn't even cover the companies they have stake in.

So that means I'd loose out on a lot of good beers.....if I boycott BMC companies......

So I'm going with drink what you like and like what you drink........:rockin:

 

[mojotele]

I'm not getting beer snobbish here because I have absolutely no problem with BMC or people who drink BMC, but...

Does Budweiser in particular smell really, really awful to anyone else but me? I mean, it smells quite a lot like rancid urine to me. I've thought that since I was really young (6 or 7). A lot of my relatives drank it when I was younger and, because of the smell, I didn't drink beer until well into my 20s. I do not detect the same smell in either Miller or Coors.

It doesn't taste that awful. In fact, it doesn't taste like much of anything to me. But the smell is BAD.

Am I just crazy?

 

[BlueSunshine]

I'm not getting beer snobbish here because I have absolutely no problem with BMC or people who drink BMC, but...

Does Budweiser in particular smell really, really awful to anyone else but me? I mean, it smells quite a lot like rancid urine to me. I've thought that since I was really young (6 or 7). A lot of my relatives drank it when I was younger and, because of the smell, I didn't drink beer until well into my 20s. I do not detect the same smell in either Miller or Coors.

It doesn't taste that awful. In fact, it doesn't taste like much of anything to me. But the smell is BAD.

Am I just crazy?

I don't know about the smell but my old roommate swore Budweiser tasted like blood. Yes, blood.

It was probably the metallic taste from drinking from cans, but still.

 

[TheFlatline]

I don't know about the smell but my old roommate swore Budweiser tasted like blood. Yes, blood.

It was probably the metallic taste from drinking from cans, but still.

I've had a coppery, metallic taste in draft beer from a bar that didn't maintain it's lines and served old beer.

Nasty stuff.

 

[user 30639]

Oh yeah.... you bet there are:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InBev_brands

That doesn't even cover the companies they have stake in.

From their wiki page

# Michelob Ultra Lime Cactus
# Michelob Ultra Pomegranate Raspberry
# Michelob Ultra Tuscan Orange Grapefruit

I had no idea such a beer existed. I kind of want to try one, just to see what it tastes like. Or are these malt beverages like a smirnoff ice?