Co2 My Bottle

[Enxaine]

Hello, I'm brand new to home brewing. I have my first batch of beer in the secondary now. I plan to finish the brew as per instruction. I am bothered however by the idea of sediment from priming at time of bottling. If I could build an adapter that would fit a glass bottle, charge with Co2 (from a bottle), and install a cap at the same time could I avoid sugar priming. I hope that makes sense.

 

[FirstStateBrewer]

That's an interesting thought, but I don't think it's possible to force carbonate directly into a bottle.

You could keg your beer and force carbonate it. Then if you need bottles, you can counter-pressure bottle fill after the beer is already carbonated. That's what I do.

However, you must have had other people's bottle-conditioned homebrew. Just pour the beer slowly and leave the tiny bit of sediment in the bottom of the bottle, if you don't like it. That's the easiest thing to do.

 

[anonymousbrew]

the amount of sediment you have in a bottle conditioned beer vs the amount of sediment you'd have in that same beer force carbed is going to be negligable. the 'sediment' is already in both beers. (unless you're dosing with new yeast as well)

As for force carbing in glass bottles, i've not seen an adapter to do that, but there is one to accomplish it in PET bottles (2l or 20oz).

as a kegger - there are still beers i want to bottle condition because the carbonation is smoother (less of a bite). Not sure as to the scientific logic behind this - one would think that CO2 is CO2 and carbonic acid is carbonic acid.

my advice - bottle condition those babys!

 

[nebben]

You can do this.

If you rack your beer into a keg, then pressurize the beer in place, later you can rack the beer into bottles without using priming sugar.

How you carbonate the beer in the keg is up to you- priming sugar or force CO2. Even if you use priming sugar, you can still rack clear beer if you dump (or transfer and mark the sediment-heavy bottles as such) the first few pints when bottling. If you use force carbonation, you will usually get some sediment, but it should be minimal. Most of the bottles that you fill from the keg (using Biermuncher's bottle filler or a Blichmann beergun) will be clean and free of sediment, while still being fully carbonated.

 

[Enxaine]

Thanks for the quick responses, the reason behind this idea is both convenience and preference. I have had sugar primed home brew before and found that if you travel with your beer more times than not you drink cloudy beer. I guess my main concern with this idea is you can only add the Co2 once, therefor how much Co2 will be absorbed at what pressure. In keging I understand you leave the Co2 open to the beer at a certain pressure, so does more Co2 enter the keg as it is absorbed into the beer? As far as an adapter to do the job I know nothing currently exists but am confident I could build one. I would like to try it but only if there is no reason not to. This would also avoid keging equipment. Thanks for your input,

 

[JefeTheVol]

The factors that affect amount of dissolved CO2 are Pressure, Volume, Temperature and Time. You can't just flip a switch and "flash carb" a bottle of beer with enough pressure to force the CO2 into solution without exploding your beer bottle. It takes time for a reason...because bottles can only handle so much pressure at any given time. Imagine trying to carb a keg without a regulator and that's pretty close to what you are proposing. Kegs are rated for about 200PSI and your CO2 tank is around 1500PSI.

Sure, there is probably a machine somewhere in the world that can do that but I doubt Joe Homebrewer has the capabilities to pull it off.

 

[flatulentfox]

The closest thing to instant carbonation would be a system with a carbonation stone. Google it.

 

[MrFoodScientist]

I've been thinking about how one could make a counerpressure bottle filler that will also cap without releasing that pressure. You could do some amazying things with it, but I haven't come up with anything that would work as of yet.

You could keg and use a beer gun to bottle.