American Pale Ale Citra Pale Ale- Oddsides Clone

[kodyind]

what sparge temp did you use, i am brewing it this weekend

Jim

Here's a really close clone of the Citra Pale Ale from Oddsides, in Grand Haven, Michigan. Very close to what I remember it tasting like.

It's a fantastically, easy drinking, ultra flavorful Pale Ale. These guys make one of the best Pale's I've ever had, and the Brewer, and the Brewery are TOP NOTCH. The Headbrewer gave me some "direction" in designing/guessing the recipe, and it helped me greatly. I believe this one is very close to the original, and if anything makes a fantastic, easy drinking beer that is good to the last drop!

Mash @ 152* for 60 minutes.

11 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 88.0 %
12.0 oz Wheat, Flaked (1.6 SRM) Grain 2 6.0 %
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 3 4.0 %
4.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 4 2.0 %
1.00 oz Citra [13.40 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 6 21.3 IBUs
0.28 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 mins) Fining 7 -
1.00 oz Citra [13.40 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 8 15.6 IBUs
0.50 oz Citra [13.40 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 9 4.3 IBUs
0.50 oz Citra [13.40 %] - Boil 1.0 min Hop 10 0.9 IBUs
1.50 oz Citra [13.40 %] - Flameout 0.0 min Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
2.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) [50.28 ml] Yeast 12 -
1.10 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Boil 10 min) Other 13 -
2.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days Hop 14 0.0 IBUs

NOTE: The recipe has been altered since version 1. The FWH/60 min addition is deleted for the raised 15/10min addition for more flavor, and the same amount of IBU's this beer should be.

Ferment it out cool, around 66-67*F.

It's a great tasting, balanced, and fruity Pale Ale. If you hate Citra, you are in the wrong place. The wheat is what gives this beer the slightly creamier, heavier mouthfeel that makes you love it. The lacing and head on the beer are perfect. So refreshing!

 

[FATC1TY]

what sparge temp did you use, i am brewing it this weekend

Jim

178*.. Doesn't really matter to be honest with it. I normally sparge at 178-180 all the time.

 

[jammin]

Other people's kids....

 

[Mparsons327]

Gonna brew this one asap! sounds delicious!

 

[archer75]

Any suggestions for introducing a hop back in the loop between the kettle and chiller/carboy? Same hop amount as the flame out addition?

At flame out I have my setup pumping through a plate chiller immediately and into the carboy so the hops wouldn't be sitting in the kettle more than a couple of minutes after flameout. My thinking is just throw those hops into the hopback and run it in between kettle and chiller.

 

[FATC1TY]

Any suggestions for introducing a hop back in the loop between the kettle and chiller/carboy? Same hop amount as the flame out addition?

At flame out I have my setup pumping through a plate chiller immediately and into the carboy so the hops wouldn't be sitting in the kettle more than a couple of minutes after flameout. My thinking is just throw those hops into the hopback and run it in between kettle and chiller.

Why not loop back and return into the kettle for a bit, and do the hopstand for 10 minutes or so?

I don't have a set up like that, but would intensify the aroma, and you'd be able to use less hops as you'd better utilize it.

 

[Starderup]

I would actually say the wheat grist, with the layered crystal tosses off the shaper lychee fruit- grapefruit bite back a bit. It's much mellowed, a very smooth Citra flavor. I think it highlights the aroma, and the flavor of Citra very well, without being so wildly hoppy and intense, yet still has the intense flavor of Citra that everyone so much loves.

Would you think using Rahr's Red Wheat instead of flaked would add too much color? Possibly back of on one or both the Crystal malts to compensate? Thanks, and what a beautiful beer. I have bookmarked it, and I am careful to only keep keepers.

 

[JonA]

Am I reading the recipe right that there are no 60 minute hops additions? I was trying to follow along with the changes and I'm getting confused now. I'm going to the LHBS to buy the ingredients today so hopefully someone can help me out!

 

[JonA]

Nevermind...plugged it into beer smith and I get it now.

 

[FATC1TY]

Would you think using Rahr's Red Wheat instead of flaked would add too much color? Possibly back of on one or both the Crystal malts to compensate? Thanks, and what a beautiful beer. I have bookmarked it, and I am careful to only keep keepers.

You could try it. The recipe has been tossed around to the head brewer, and he said it's true to form.

He uses actually LESS hops than this recipe, but only because he gets better efficiency due to brewing on a larger system ( and probably more talent than us hombrewers.. ).

It would be worth trying, I think it would add too much color, but you could drop the C60, and use all C40 and try it. I did the C60 for color mainly, if it were all C40, I seriously doubt it would change the recipe at all.

 

[FATC1TY]

Nevermind...plugged it into beer smith and I get it now.

Yeah, no 60 minute. The original does have a 60 I believe, but like mentioned, it uses less hops too but mainly because of their system being larger and efficient, since you are getting the bitterness from the 60 addition. I liked the way it turns out tossing it all in later. Same IBU's and a really potent aroma and great depth of flavor.

 

[Ostomo517]

This is my clone...... dont get any closer

 

[orangemen5]

This is my clone...... dont get any closer

That's alot of carbonation.

 

[Ostomo517]

That's alot of carbonation.

???? Was just pokin fun because that was a actual bottle of CPA from Odd Side.

 

[orangemen5]

???? Was just pokin fun because that was a actual bottle of CPA from Odd Side.

Oh I gotcha.

 

[PJM]

Brewed this up today. Pretty much hit all my numbers. Can't wait to see how it turns out. I'll report back in a few weeks.

 

[mkringii]

This is my clone...... dont get any closer

?? They arent distributing yet!?! And dis we change the original recipe to drop the c40 and 60/10/0 ? Jus kicked that keg i had filled.. Time for another

 

[Ostomo517]

?? They arent distributing yet!?! And dis we change the original recipe to drop the c40 and 60/10/0 ? Jus kicked that keg i had filled.. Time for another

Actually just saw it in nearby bottle shop a couple days ago!

 

[forcabrew]

Has anyone compared this clone to the 3 zombies clone?

 

[dale1038]

Has anyone compared this clone to the 3 zombies clone?

I kicked a keg of this clone last week, and had a Zombie Dust on tap this past weekend. To me the beers were almost the same. Maybe a little bit of mouthfeel difference from the flaked wheat in the clone. This beer was really good but I'm sick of tropical fruit hopped beers. I've just made so many lately they all are blending together.

 

[hops2it]

Transferring to the keg in a few days. Look forward to reporting back in a few weeks. Nailed all the numbers so it should be spot on with the posted recipe.

 

[PJM]

Tapped my keg of this on Thursday and it is great. Heaven in a pint glass. Unfortunately, I now have a wicked head cold and cannot taste anything. Doh !! This tastes very similar to the zombie dust clone in that it is a punch in the face of citra. Other than the fact that the ZD clone has a higher abv, they are almost indistinguishable. Both very good.

 

[hops2it]

Yep it kicks ass. I've never even had Oddsides so I can't compare but you had me at "all citra". Plus I liked the unique hop addition schedule and wanted to give that a shot. Its tasty for sure, this will not be lasting long.

 

[Ostomo517]

Yep it kicks ass. I've never even had Oddsides so I can't compare but you had me at "all citra". Plus I liked the unique hop addition schedule and wanted to give that a shot. Its tasty for sure, this will not be lasting long.

Nice! Wish I could taste it but you nailed the color and look spot on!

 

[FATC1TY]

Looks pretty good there!


I need to brew this again actually. I need something low abv on tap.

 

[BigPicture]

It just came on-line on Monday. Took 2 days to really get used to it. My 1st thought was...................... POW! That was different!

Now that I've slept on it.................................. I've learned how to drink it............................................. let it rest in the class a little. Smell the pungent floral aroma, enjoy the dry hopping, swirl the hoppy goodness, understand the different mouthfeel, then get ready................. POW.

This is my 1st Citra. Wow! Does this hop combine well with anything else?

I think I've got a new favorite this month!

 

[TangoHotel]

I have had the CPA from Oddsides. I bought a Growler of it during the heat wave last year. I Brought it home and had a glass. Before I knew it, I was out. That made me sad. However, I found this thread, and now I can brew this one up just in time to ward off the heat again this year. This makes me happy. Thank you, OP! You just saved summer!

 

[bigdongsr94]

I am going to brew this tonight or tomorrow night. Can anyone explain the hop schedule. I read the update from FatC1ty but I am having trouble getting to 41 IBU. He dropped the 60/FWH and moved the other two up? That would leave:
.5 Citra 15min
.5 Citra 10min
1.5 FO
2 DH
That is well short of the IBUs so I believe I am confused. I bump those to a full OZ and also include 1oz at 5min in order to get 41IBU. I do need to check my alpha% as my numbers were using 12.5%.

Thanks for any help

 

[orangemen5]

I am going to brew this tonight or tomorrow night. Can anyone explain the hop schedule. I read the update from FatC1ty but I am having trouble getting to 41 IBU. He dropped the 60/FWH and moved the other two up? That would leave:
.5 Citra 15min
.5 Citra 10min
1.5 FO
2 DH
That is well short of the IBUs so I believe I am confused. I bump those to a full OZ and also include 1oz at 5min in order to get 41IBU. I do need to check my alpha% as my numbers were using 12.5%.

Thanks for any help

Your missing the .5 (5min) additions
.5 (1min)

 

[dale1038]

Your missing the .5 (5min) additions
.5 (1min)

Also 1.0 oz Citra at 15 and 10!