Casey Anthony - not guilty

[jmendez29]

you don't think the guy who got a child killer (yeah yeah....at the very least, child abuser) off the hook is a bad man?

what's your definition of "bad man"?

Nothing like black and white, eh?

 

[passedpawn]

you don't think the guy who got a child killer (yeah yeah....at the very least, child abuser) off the hook is a bad man?

what's your definition of "bad man"?

So, what's the alternative? He chooses not to represent the defendant? Noone defends her? The courts just hang her? What are you proposing as an alternative to the way our justice system works now?

 

[BucksPA]

The jurors did exactly what they were supposed to do. They took an oath to discard their emotions, beliefs, judgments, etc and apply only the evidence given during the trial. Judges are very clear when giving instructions to the jury that there can not be any doubt at all. If there is reasonable doubt, they must make the verdict not guilty. The reason she got off the hook is because of the poor job the prosecution did. All of the burden in convicting her falls on the prosecution and they only offered circumstantial evidence (smells in a trunk, partying it up, getting tattoos, internet searches, etc). The prosecution couldn't deliver a murder weapon and couldn't deliver a cause of death. This is where the doubt rested in the jurors minds. Heck, everyone knows she is guilty, but the prosecution could not prove murder. Again, the jurors did what was instructed of them, and they did it right. Unfortunately, someone walks free who deserves death.

Judicial system needs fixing. That's the problem here.

 

[mcwilcr]

The prosecution should have never tried for the full monty on a case that lacks the definitive evidence needed to sentence someone to death.

if I were on the jury, I would have probably had a hard time convicting her on the full count also but I thought I had heard something about there being a lesser manslaughter charge in there that would not have met the requirements for the death penalty. I am surprised (if I am correct about the manslaughter charge) that the jury couldn't find enough evidence in what was presented not to find her guilty of that.

 

[Airborneguy]

There was a similar thing that happened here where I live years ago. Dude killed a girl, brutally torturing her, raping her and killing her. He was found not guilty. Years later the person that lived in his former house found pictures in the floor board of the entire killing that the dude took while he was in the act. They convicted him of purgery and put him away for a few years. Point is I'm sure they could get her with some kind of charge if she laughed and confessed to the world.

Gotta call BS on this one. NO ONE can be convicted of perjury for defending themselves, its the essence of the 5th Amendment. Plus, that would clearly fall under double jeopardy anyway, even with the new evidence unless the original trial was a mistrial or a hung jury.

 

[optimatored]

i followed the whole trial.. not every second, but most of it. if i was on the jury I would have gone not guilty as well.

why do so many people think this chick is guilty. i know? its the media who portrayed her as a cold hearted b*itch. who knows she might be... but my gut tells (even before the trial) that the death was accidental and she did not know what to do. she f*cked up big time in going about the death. so people branded her as a bad mom, who likes to party/wants her freedom, and thats why she killed her child. LMAO... such a poor prosecution because they had nothing to go on. you need intent and premeditation to convict on murder 1, and they had neither.

she may get some time for lying, but who knows. all we can really tell, her family and future life are probably going suck for forever.

 

[mrduna01]

Gotta call BS on this one. NO ONE can be convicted of perjury for defending themselves, its the essence of the 5th Amendment. Plus, that would clearly fall under double jeopardy anyway, even with the new evidence unless the original trial was a mistrial or a hung jury.

BS? If you lie and say you didn't kill someone and then it is found otherwise you can be charged with purgury. It's two different crimes, not double jeapordy. Look up the Mel ignatow case on google and you will see it's no BS.

 

[BucksPA]

1 year for each count of lying to investigators. There were 4 counts. She has already served just about 3 years. she will walk on thursday. Sentencing guidelines will call for less than 4 years.

 

[RMitch]

The prosecution should have never tried for the full monty on a case that lacks the definitive evidence needed to sentence someone to death.

if I were on the jury, I would have probably had a hard time convicting her on the full count also but I thought I had heard something about there being a lesser manslaughter charge in there that would not have met the requirements for the death penalty. I am surprised (if I am correct about the manslaughter charge) that the jury couldn't find enough evidence in what was presented not to find her guilty of that.

Apparently most states, except for Florida, have a certain standard where if the jury does not feel comfortable convicting a suspect at a certain level of charges, those charges can be dropped to a lower level in order to convict. For example...dropping a Murder 2 to a Manslaughter charge.

 

[optimatored]

1 year for each count of lying to investigators. There were 4 counts. She has already served just about 3 years. she will walk on thursday. Sentencing guidelines will call for less than 4 years.

yup. i think thats what will happen too.

 

[Airborneguy]

Looked it up, he was convicted for statements made at Grand Jury. Grand Jury proceedings are not subject to the same protections because the defendant actually has no right to testify in the GRand Jury, they can only request to testify if they want to, which most defense attorneys will not allow defendants to do for obvious reasons. Witnesses are not entitled to immunity from GJ testimony either.

You absolutely cannot be re-tried for lying when defending yourself at trial though.

 

[iaefebs]

So, what's the alternative? He chooses not to represent the defendant? Noone defends her? The courts just hang her? What are you proposing as an alternative to the way our justice system works now?

The alternative is you do the crime you do the time. If a honest defense and an honest prosecution is presented to a jury then let them decide. We have gotten to the point where the legal system is more about winning a case than truth. I for one would hate to have a job defending someone I know is guilty of a crime.

 

[RMitch]

^Is that according to Florida law, or NY law though?

Less progressive states, i.e. Florida, tend to have much simpler laws and court proceedings. Rule of thumb is, the less law schools there, the less convoluted the legal process is.

 

[RMitch]

The alternative is you do the crime you do the time. If a honest defense and an honest prosecution is presented to a jury then let them decide. We have gotten to the point where the legal system is more about winning a case than truth. I for one would hate to have a job defending someone I know is guilty of a crime.

Then don't go into criminal defense law. Simple as that. lol

 

[iaefebs]

Then don't go into criminal defense law. Simple as that. lol

I didn't and I quit the banking industry 35 years ago because I saw where it was headed. I also didn't get involved in organized crime, or start an online ministry. I don't make unsolicited phone calls or try to take advantage of senior citizens or any other number of jobs where I would have to lie to make a living.

 

[jonmohno]

If you believe media you will think shes guilty,i absolutuly cannot stand Nacy Grace.Its about attention and money.Sounds like she was being selfish and a bad mother but no evidence makes it hard to point fingers.Being looped out on drugs if she was wouldnt make it easy hence the lying.They couldnt even prove manslaughter.

 

[BucksPA]

If she is truly guilty she'll end up dead in a car accident next week, be shot and killed by some angry tv viewer who followed the trial, end up back in jail for armed robbery as a result of no one hiring her for a job, etc. Karma will work this one out

 

[wildwest450]

At least Kim Kardashian got a beating for the decision.

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[motobrewer]

What are you proposing as an alternative to the way our justice system works now?

a system where child killers or parents responsible for the death of their child go to prison? pay some sort of punishment?

You absolutely cannot be re-tried for lying when defending yourself at trial though.

really? is that really the case?

i understand double jeapordy, but if you lie, get away with it at the time, then evidence surfaces that you did, in fact, lie, there is absolutely no punishment? you can't be tried for perjury? isn't that a separate charge?

so....is there any reason (legal, that is) for NOT lying if you're caught?

 

[optimatored]

a system where child killers or parents responsible for the death of their child go to prison? pay some sort of punishment?



really? is that really the case?

i understand double jeapordy, but if you lie, get away with it at the time, then evidence surfaces that you did, in fact, lie, there is absolutely no punishment? you can't be tried for perjury? isn't that a separate charge?

so....is there any reason (legal, that is) for NOT lying if you're caught?

if there is an accidental death the parent or guardian should go to jail? the death of the child is not enough I guess.

 

[motobrewer]

uh, did someone "accidentally" duct tape her mouth and dump her body in the middle of freakin' nowhere?

yeah, the death of a child is enough...to go partying, get tattoos, etc...

 

[IrregularPulse]

uh, did someone "accidentally" duct tape her mouth and dump her body in the middle of freakin' nowhere?

Was it 100% proven that that someone was her mom? You'd better be damn sure you know what you're talking about before you sentence someone else to death over it. If you're wrong, you too just killed an innocent person.

 

[iaefebs]

if there is an accidental death the parent or guardian should go to jail? the death of the child is not enough I guess.

You want this person on the jury if you commit a crime.

 

[dannypo]

I think what is lost on jurors today is the concept of "reasonable" doubt. They seem to take it as "all" doubt. Huge difference. Is there a doubt that she was guilty. Sure. Was that doubt reasonable. No.

 

[Vance71975]

Ok yes i think it is horrible what happened to that little girl, But has anyone stopped to think that MAYBE just MAYBE she had nothing to do with any of it? Her Dad was a POLICE officer in Ohio, If anyone knows how to COVER up something and make it hard to prove what happened it would be him. I have a theory, Mind you it is just that a THEORY, I think it prolly went down something like this, the child fell in the pool, drown, and the father thinking that his daughter was going to go to jail for killing her little girl over an accident, stepped it, moved the body, covered up the evidence so that nothing could be proven.

Her behavior, while yes to an outsider may seem Evil,horrid,etc but who is to say that she wasn't doing everything she could to take her mind off the loss of her child? People do some strange things to deal with grief, and i am sure that she had plenty of that, even if she didn't act like it.

Clearly there was not enough of any kind of PROOF to get 12 people on a Jury to convict, and if you cant get a Jury with 7 women on it to convict a woman of killing her child, my gut says she didn't kill the child.

I mean they didn't even file charges against that teacher, i think it was in Texas, that FORGOT she didn't drop her baby off at the Sitter, and left the baby in a CLOSED UP CAR while she was inside teaching and they had PROOF that woman was guilty of Negligent Homicide!!! How do we decide which parent to put on trial and which one to just let slide on it? This woman just FORGOT her baby was in the car seat in the back of the car, went in to her job teaching and HOURS later someone else happened to notice that there was a dead baby in the back seat, and they didn't even TRY to file charges, i mean really?

 

[Native302]

This just goes to show that the world, at least the US, is going to hell in a hand basket, and it's happening very quickly.

I want to live somewhere where the justice system is an "eye for and eye", they don't seem to have as many problems in those places.

 

[optimatored]

This just goes to show that the world, at least the US, is going to hell in a hand basket, and it's happening very quickly.

I want to live somewhere where the justice system is an "eye for and eye", they don't seem to have as many problems in those places.

Really. My family is from and lives in the middle east. You would like to get your hand cut off for stealing? Or if you talk against your government they kill you. Sounds much better huh? Wow, wake up dude.

 

[optimatored]

Ok yes i think it is horrible what happened to that little girl, But has anyone stopped to think that MAYBE just MAYBE she had nothing to do with any of it? Her Dad was a POLICE officer in Ohio, If anyone knows how to COVER up something and make it hard to prove what happened it would be him. I have a theory, Mind you it is just that a THEORY, I think it prolly went down something like this, the child fell in the pool, drown, and the father thinking that his daughter was going to go to jail for killing her little girl over an accident, stepped it, moved the body, covered up the evidence so that nothing could be proven.

Her behavior, while yes to an outsider may seem Evil,horrid,etc but who is to say that she wasn't doing everything she could to take her mind off the loss of her child? People do some strange things to deal with grief, and i am sure that she had plenty of that, even if she didn't act like it.

Clearly there was not enough of any kind of PROOF to get 12 people on a Jury to convict, and if you cant get a Jury with 7 women on it to convict a woman of killing her child, my gut says she didn't kill the child.

I mean they didn't even file charges against that teacher, i think it was in Texas, that FORGOT she didn't drop her baby off at the Sitter, and left the baby in a CLOSED UP CAR while she was inside teaching and they had PROOF that woman was guilty of Negligent Homicide!!! How do we decide which parent to put on trial and which one to just let slide on it? This woman just FORGOT her baby was in the car seat in the back of the car, went in to her job teaching and HOURS later someone else happened to notice that there was a dead baby in the back seat, and they didn't even TRY to file charges, i mean really?

My theory as well. All very shady, but the prosecution messed up in presenting the case.

Really, murder 1? Come on. First degree murder must be premeditated... all they had was a search on chloroform. I look up sh*t worse than that everyday. So if a family member of mine dies, I guess I am screwed.

 

[Vance71975]

Really. My family is from and lives in the middle east. You would like to get your hand cut off for stealing? Or if you talk against your government they kill you. Sounds much better huh? Wow, wake up dude.

I think the point he was making was that Murderers,Rapist,Child Molesters etc, get way to light of a sentence, or get away with it completely when they should be punished more severely when proven guilty.

Personally, I have seen cases where a child molester had VIDEO footage of themselves molesting a child, and they got 5-10 years outta it, I personally think when there is PROOF like that, and NO question they are guilty, just take them outside the court house and shoot them. Or Rapist that Film themselves committing rape, ya just shoot them and call it a day.

 

[Vance71975]

My theory as well. All very shady, but the prosecution messed up in presenting the case.

Really, murder 1? Come on. First degree murder must be premeditated... all they had was a search on chloroform. I look up sh*t worse than that everyday. So if a family member of mine dies, I guess I am screwed.

Oh ya i have looked up some screwed up s**t on Google just to see what would pop up, i think a lot of people have. Doing a search on chloroform and actually getting your hands on chloroform are two very different things, and even if she did manage to buy chloroform somewhere, SOMEONE who seen all the headlines about her would have came forward about it. Or there would be a sales record, SOMETHING But the way it sounds, she spent 3 years of her life in jail for something she didn't do, i would be curious to see if she now sues the state for false imprisonment,considering she was found not guilty, i know i would!