American Pale Ale Cascades / Orange Pale Ale

[kapbrew13]

Hmmm. While I'm a true believer in cleanliness in brewing this strikes me as a little over-protective. I'd not throw bird-crapped orange zest in a brew (I'd wash it first) but methinks the alcohol would probably take care of the typical nasties that might be present.

But hey, to each their own and RDWHAHB!

Soak the orange in vodka, hey extra alcohol isn't bad.

 

[Jubilee]

Soak the orange in vodka, hey extra alcohol isn't bad.

Now that's an even better idea.

 

[Tandor]

So I brewed this up today for the first time. Also first time using a pump to recirculate and whirlpool. Resirc went fine but I learned a lesson. Don't freeball dried orange peel if using a pump. Whirlpooled for about a minute till it clogged. Next project is building a hop spider. Whole house smells great tho. Even swmbo likes it.

 

[jaycount]

I actually had a bottle of this sitting downstairs from alst April/May when I brewed it. I popped it open tonight. Smells and tastes awesome. Some of the cascade flavor definitely died down but still a great brew. I look forward to doing it again!

 

[steppenwolph]

Just pitched yeast on a batch of this last night. I used Centennial instead of Cascades, since that is what I had. Also, I used a vegetable peeler to carefully peel off just to orange part of the orange peel from some organic oranges. It took quite a lot to get 2 oz dried. I am looking forward to tasting it.

 

[CrookedTail]

Brewed a batch of this a few weeks ago. I subbed the late addition cascades with centennials, and fermented with US-05. I just racked it to the secondary and I'm dry-hopping with some more centennials. The sample I took was super clean and tasted awesome! Can't wait to keg this!

 

[tbright0223]

So I have made this recipe a couple times and really love it which made me think of trying a IIPA based on blacklabs original. Here it is what I came up with so far and I'm hoping to brew this weekend.

Pale Ale 38ppg, 3°L 13 pounds 81.2%
Vienna 35ppg, 4°L 1 pound 6.2%
Crystal 60L 34ppg, 60°L 1 pound 6.2%
Dry Sugar - Corn 42ppg, °L 1 pound 6.2%
Yeast - White Labs California Ale

Mash
60 minutes, Target 151°F
Batch Sparge

Hops
Cascade 6.9%, Pellet 1 ounce FWH
Columbus hops 14.6%, Pellet 2 ounce 60 minutes
Cascade hops 5.6%, Pellet 1 ounce 10 minutes
Cascade hops 5.6%, Pellet 1 ounce 5 minutes
Cascade hops 5.6%, Pellet 2 ounces 1 minutes
Columbus hops 14.6%, Pellet 1 ounce 1 minutes
Cascade hops 5.6%, Pellet 2 ounce Dry Hop 7 days
Columbus hops 14.6%, Pellet 2 ounce Dry Hop 7 days

Additions

Crushed Coriander 1 ounce 10 minutes
Orange peel 2 ounces 10 minutes
Orange peel 1 ounce Added to fermenter for 7 days

 

[smallbatchbrewer]

I had tasted the brew when transferring to secondary prior to dry hopping and almost left it as is. The flavor and aroma were great. This recipe had so many good reviews that I opted to go with the dry hop step. I just tried the first bottle. Whoa! Hopefully the hop flavor will mellow a bit over time. It's a bit stronger than I had expected. Strong aroma, strong taste. A hop-lovers beer for certain. I will be making this again but scaling the dry hops way back to about 25%.

 

[tbright0223]

So I have made this recipe a couple times and really love it which made me think of trying a IIPA based on blacklabs original. Here it is what I came up with so far and I'm hoping to brew this weekend.

Pale Ale 38ppg, 3°L 13 pounds 81.2%
Vienna 35ppg, 4°L 1 pound 6.2%
Crystal 60L 34ppg, 60°L 1 pound 6.2%
Dry Sugar - Corn 42ppg, °L 1 pound 6.2%
Yeast - White Labs California Ale

Mash
60 minutes, Target 151°F
Batch Sparge

Hops
Cascade 6.9%, Pellet 1 ounce FWH
Columbus hops 14.6%, Pellet 2 ounce 60 minutes
Cascade hops 5.6%, Pellet 1 ounce 10 minutes
Cascade hops 5.6%, Pellet 1 ounce 5 minutes
Cascade hops 5.6%, Pellet 2 ounces 1 minutes
Columbus hops 14.6%, Pellet 1 ounce 1 minutes
Cascade hops 5.6%, Pellet 2 ounce Dry Hop 7 days
Columbus hops 14.6%, Pellet 2 ounce Dry Hop 7 days

Additions

Crushed Coriander 1 ounce 10 minutes
Orange peel 2 ounces 10 minutes
Orange peel 1 ounce Added to fermenter for 7 days

So I just bottled this version on Sunday and let me tell you it is delicious. Came in at a nice 8% abv but still has the great orange and cascade flavors and aroma. Gonna be hard to let this one sit for a few weeks especially with the 4th coming up. Gotta thank blacklabs once again for a great recipe.

 

[Dilligaf76]

Just pitched my yeast a few minutes ago on this. My first all-grain batch. Nailed all my gravity readings:rockin:
I only had 1 oz of coriander and put it in the hop bag with the orange zest. Will it hurt the flavor/aroma to remove them for fermentation?
Cant wait for this one to finish!

 

[BrewtalAlement]

I brewed this for my first all grain several weeks ago. I didn't use hop bags for the orange zest or corriander. Big mistake. Broke my siphon when racking to secondary. It kept getting clogged and I would have to clear it out and eventually the little clip popped out on the bottom of the siphon cane. Lesson learned. Anyway, even with all the mistakes I made the beer still tastes great. The orange flavor is pretty potent. I did 1oz bitter orange zest and 1oz sweet orange zest as that's all they had left at my LHBS. It's not fully carbed yet. Hoping that the orange flavor will mellow out a bit as it sits in the keg. Thanks for the recipe.

 

[blacklab]

Sorry to hear about the difficulty racking. Yes, the orange will mellow over time.

 

[AGadvocate]

I did a beer view to this recipe on youtube. I followed the recipe exactly. What an awesome brew!!

[ame]http://youtu.be/k2ia2faRnTQ[/ame]

 

[Dilligaf76]

Tasted my hydrometer sample today. Even with just under 1oz of crushed coriander its pretty powerful. Its not bad but definitely there. The sample also had a nice bite to it. Maybe once its carbed up and dry-hopped the coriander will drop out some. It smells awesome. Going to be hard to wait a couple more weeks!

 

[AGadvocate]

It took my batch 2 weeks after kegging to mellow out. It's worth the wait

 

[BrewtalAlement]

After a week and a half in the keg it's mellowed and tasty. Also, if I pour a glass and let it warm the spice of the corriander is more prevalent on the back end. Muy bueno!

 

[sivdrinks]

I'm debating brewing this because I already did a Wit this year. How close is this in flavor to a Wit? Maybe I should drop the coriander.

 

[AGadvocate]

I'm debating brewing this because I already did a Wit this year. How close is this in flavor to a Wit? Maybe I should drop the coriander.

It's more of a pale ale with bite. Doesn't really resemble a wit to me.

 

[drkaeppel]

This is a fantastic beer.

I thought I should mention, the second time I brewed it I replaced the bittering hops with Nugget (had a bunch in the freezer I needed to get rid of). If you're ever thinking about doing this, DON'T. The flavor profile is way off. It is much more "orangey" and enjoyable if you just stick with the recipe.

I'll be brewing another batch soon.

 

[Dilligaf76]

Having the first taste of this now. The coriander could have been 0.5oz. It has more bitterness than I thought 38.4 IBUs would have. It's not a bad thing but did surprise me. It's a great hot weather beer. Mine is slightly dry considering I mashed pretty high but I'm sure that adds to the perceived bitterness. I'm sure this leg will float soon Have a BTH clone on deck but I may brew this one again before summer is totally over. I'll back off on the coriander though.
Great beer!

 

[Dilligaf76]

Has anyone thought about adding some vanilla to this beer? Seems like it would go well with the coriander.

 

[tw0st3p]

I ordered all the ingredients for this and plan on brewing it this weekend, however NB sent me crystal hops instead of cascade. I am not familiar with crystal...

Will these work or should I just hold off until I get the cascades?

 

[blacklab]

I did a beer view to this recipe on youtube. I followed the recipe exactly. What an awesome brew!!

http://youtu.be/k2ia2faRnTQ

Aaron Rodgers likes my recipe, I am very honored. Thanks Aaron Rodgers, glad you liked it!

I ordered all the ingredients for this and plan on brewing it this weekend, however NB sent me crystal hops instead of cascade. I am not familiar with crystal...

Will these work or should I just hold off until I get the cascades?

Although it starts with a C, I believe that crystal offers more of a spicy aroma that the citrus/grapefruit of the traditional Cascade. So it will be a different beer. Shame on NB.

 

[ThickHead]

Has anyone thought about adding some vanilla to this beer? Seems like it would go well with the coriander.

I don't see vanilla going well with this recipe at all. But, you never know....give it a shot and let us know how it turns out.

 

[blacklab]

Has anyone thought about adding some vanilla to this beer? Seems like it would go well with the coriander.

If you want vanilla, just make this

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f78/vanilla-caramel-cream-ale-23680/

 

[ThickHead]

If you want vanilla, just make this

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f78/vanilla-caramel-cream-ale-23680/

Damn you!

Added to brew-list.

 

[ametamorphosis]

Hi!

Thanks for this recipe, I just got done brewing a variant of it as my first AG brew!

I substituted 2 row for the Maris Otter and since LHBS didn't have any Cascades I substituted Galena. I'm sure the end result will be a little different, but I'm just glad I hit all my numbers and had a great brew day!

 

[tw0st3p]

I brewed this recipe this weekend and was excited to give it a go. I hit all my target temp's and volumes and aerated the wort for about 60 seconds with oxygen and then pitched one packet of safale s-04 at about 70 degrees. I set it aside to ferment and saw no activity after 24 hours. The fermenter temp was about 72-74 so I moved it to a cooler spot and got it down to about 68-70 degrees. Another 24 hours later and still not a bit of activity.

Should I re-pitch another packet? I am not familiar with dry yeast as much as liquid. Also the yeast sat for about 2-3 weeks in my kegerator at around 40 degrees if that matters.

 

[dadnboys]

I have wanted to brew this recipe for some time. I had planned 2 other recipes ahead of it, however. My brew buddy said he was making a barley wine with all Maris Otter base malt and I could use the second runnings! Bought the other ingredients for the Orange Pale Ale and I was on my way! I did a mini mash with 4 lbs Maris Otter and the specialy grains, decanted the tea to my brew pot, dumped the grains atop his sparged grain bed and sparged some more. At 6.5 gal collected in brew pot, the SG (adjusted for temp) was 1.057) almost dead on. The only recipe changes were-I used fresh Cascade hops that I grew myself (10 min, 5 min) and subbed Citra for Cascade in the 1 min hop addition. I'll let you know how it tastes. My suggestion, however, if you're making a big 10 gal Maris Otter beer, this recipe lends itself to a great 2nd running 5 gal batch. You could possiblly steep the specialty grains like a PM recipe, although i did not. Thanks black lab! Ending SG litte high at 1.064

 

[ZombieBrew83]

Blacklab, thank you so much for posting this recipe! I had a few last weekend after three weeks in the bottle and was completely satisfied. This beer reminds me a little bit of Hazed and Infused: big hop flavor, but low enough ABV to have a few without having to call in sick the next day. Wonderful hop aroma and flavor. I think the orange peal and coriander add a nice level of complexity to this American Ale. Cheers!

I am not set up for PM at the time so I made these changes for extract:
-1 lbs Crystal 60L steep @152
-1 lbs Pilsen DME
-6 lbs Gold LME
-11oz table sugar (to dry out the extract a little more since I did not mash)

Hop schedule per original recipe

SG 1.056
FG 1.013