Can man survive on beer alone?

[JBrady]

If we are very careful about who get the alcohol, we can end up with a bunch of Waunabeer's avatars.

SWEET!! I like your style kpr, lol.

 

[Zamial]

... the main reason I inquired about this is because of the monks going through their fasting periods on beer alone.

I just want to bring up a few things I know of this subject. Fasting is done for up to 2 weeks. Most fasts are 3 to 7 days. Fasting is actually good for you because it helps "cleanse your body". When fasting, the standard is WATER ONLY and some fasts allow for bread.
The way I understand it, the "abby ales" / "fasting beer" was added to the fasting diet after the 1st week. This added a much needed higher caloric intake and vitamins.
Also of note, most "fasts" are done while meditating/praying or very low physical activity.

I wondered if they did it why can't I.

You can! a bit of research will help out LOTS.

I'm also thinking that small portioned healthy diet along with a healthy(non harmful) qauntity of beer could be all a human may need to survive.

I am lost... survival does not = fasting, these are 2 radically different concepts...survival is normally not a choice, while fasting is. I think you are blurring the lines of fasting and "how long can I live on beer alone." To date I have never heard of anyone causing harm to their body by fasting up to 14 days.

Only consuming beer, I think, would be pretty dangerous and hard on your body. Remember the monks did this to cleanse themselves not to get bombed, I would bet that a pint of strong ale after a week of bread and water would offer a buzz tho...

The idea of eating better and reducing portions to what is needed vs. wanted is a diet/lifestyle change not a fast, IMO. Both are great and I incourage you to try them and tell us about it!

 

[muse435]

They did this on an episode of MANwsers, no you want survive.

 

[wild]

Ben Franklin?

Nope, old monk's saying...
Beer can be food but food can never be beer.

 

[Bru]

We've had :
Super Size Me
Super High Me
its time for....
Super Beer Me (!)
Try it for a week and see what happens.

 

[Jaybird]

Add Airborn to the wheat beer!! Problem solved! Live forever on that beer... Ok Ok Ok maybe not forever... But long enough to know you want a Porter and a Bacon Vodka from time to time!!!

 

[Pommy]

I think you would waste too much energy loling cut that down and id say a week or two before the lack of vitamins set in.

 

[SpottedDogBrewing]

I've been trying to stick to a Beer diet for dinner. All I'll have is beer and no food for dinner each night

 

[Pick]

How about a beer and potato diet?

http://www.20potatoesaday.com

 

[Valcarde]

IFasting is actually good for you because it helps "cleanse your body".

'Cleanse the body' of what exactly? Specific compounds that are in our food that need to be removed? Something that can only be taken out of your body by starving yourself, instead of watching what you eat if you're trying to avoid certain things?

I've often heard this term 'Cleanse the body' being used to remove, say 'toxins', but it seems finding a concrete description of exactly what these toxins are except for a nebulous concept is daunting.

 

[Zamial]

'Cleanse the body' of what exactly? Specific compounds that are in our food that need to be removed? Something that can only be taken out of your body by starving yourself, instead of watching what you eat if you're trying to avoid certain things?

NOTE: This is a long winded subject that I have some knowledge on. It will probably derail the tread but I will attempt to keep this short as possible.

My father HATED, to the core of his self, the medical community and the food industry was a close second. The reason I mention this is because 99.9% of people agree that good health is tied to good nutrition. Ask a medical student how much they are learning about nutrition and advanced nutrition in school...and try to not be shocked when they look at you like a deer in the headlights...

I do not think that food has been food for years, as the definition of why we eat food. We have witnessed the removal of nutrition and life from grocery stores. "You want to have life, then eat life" is something my father would say regularly on the subject. I can 95% tell you that if your food comes in: a box, can or sealed container, it is probably no longer living or has living enzymes. Mix in the chemicals and GMO foods (Genetically modified foods) and you get a pretty lethal concoction.

The sad part is we are all poisoned before birth. The DOW chemical corp. Proudly presents: Teflon! This stuff is in EVERY LIVING ANIMAL ON EARTH!!! They have even found it in polar bears...What this directly means? Chemicals are everywhere. I am not saying that Teflon is bad for you but I am just going to guess it is not good for you.

I've often heard this term 'Cleanse the body' being used to remove, say 'toxins', but it seems finding a concrete description of exactly what these toxins are except for a nebulous concept is daunting.

MY answer to this, yes "toxins". What these are specifically will vary from person to person. I am NOT a subject matter expert...

What I think "toxins" include:
Chemicals, metals, dead cells, poisons, disease and can even run into the scope of bad stress/emotional turmoil. I also think the toxin term is used really loosely.

Any any case, good on anyone that is trying to better themselves.

 

[JBrady]

Lots of great information coming in this thread, Zamial do you think that there is anywhere that we can still get healthy food? I watch alot of food documentaries and its downright scary to see whats being done to us nowadays. I eat a lot of raw tomatos and cucumbers and its sad to know that when I buy them from places like the fresh veggies section of walmart that there is no telling what kind of chemicals have been put in them.

 

[Valcarde]

Stuff

I'm going to drop out of this conversation right here, as my views obviously don't mesh with yours, and will likely cause an argument off-topic: as such, I'm going to respectfully disagree, and attempt to bring the topic back to one concerning making/consuming beer.

 

[SpanishCastleAle]

Beer made from just barley, water, hops, yeast; I doubt it. But I bet one could brew beers that people COULD live off of.

 

[dgremark]

Alright I will tell you you can live on beer and food only! I have really only drank beer or JD for the last 15 years. I only drink maybe 4-5 8oz glasses of water a week. I drink coffee in the morning and coffee with lunch but when I get off work it is beer and more beer. I am fairly healthy (the doc says I'm fine I even told him so he could keep an eye on my liver) 47 years old and only take colesterol meds. I am not over weight, 5'11" 180 lbs. Don't really exsercise but walk alot at work.
It really has been alot of years and I feel really pretty good.


Now you guys are making me thirsty and I have 3 more hours of work!

 

[JBrady]

Alright I will tell you you can live on beer and food only! I have really only drank beer or JD for the last 15 years. I only drink maybe 4-5 8oz glasses of water a week. I drink coffee in the morning and coffee with lunch but when I get off work it is beer and more beer. I am fairly healthy (the doc says I'm fine I even told him so he could keep an eye on my liver) 47 years old and only take colesterol meds. I am not over weight, 5'11" 180 lbs. Don't really exsercise but walk alot at work.
It really has been alot of years and I feel really pretty good.


Now you guys are making me thirsty and I have 3 more hours of work!

How many beers do you think you drink in a day and still keep your clean bill of health with the doc?

 

[DannPM]

Why I think you just may be able to pull it off with the right combo See explanation below picture.

Bread/Base - Pale Ales, Wheat Beer, Stouts, etc... (6-11 servings)

Fruits & Veggies - Raspberry Wheat, Cherry Stout, Pumpkin Ale, etc...(5-9 servings)

Milk - Add some powered milk to the boil of your stouts (2-3 servings)

Beans - See if you can mash some chickpeas, navy beans, or cashews :cross: be sure to use a rice adjunct to make a complete protein! :cross: (2-3 servings)

Sweets - Chocolate Stout!

There we did it! lol

 

[dgremark]

I drink 3-8 on week nights and weekend 4-12+ if football season! (per day)

 

[JBrady]

Why I think you just may be able to pull it off with the right combo See explanation below picture.

Bread/Base - Pale Ales, Wheat Beer, Stouts, etc... (6-11 servings)

Fruits & Veggies - Raspberry Wheat, Cherry Stout, Pumpkin Ale, etc...(5-9 servings)

Milk - Add some powered milk to the boil of your stouts (2-3 servings)

Beans - See if you can mash some chickpeas, navy beans, or cashews :cross: be sure to use a rice adjunct to make a complete protein! :cross: (2-3 servings)

Sweets - Chocolate Stout!

There we did it! lol

Now we are talking, we're going from concept to actual plan, I love it.

 

[SpanishCastleAle]

How many beers do you think you drink in a day and still keep your clean bill of health with the doc?

A doc like this:

Ask a medical student how much they are learning about nutrition and advanced nutrition in school...and try to not be shocked when they look at you like a deer in the headlights...

 

[JBrady]

true that, lol, I guess the general consensus is that beer alone or even beer for a majority of the diet just isn't going to work, well I tried, haha!